Hamas leader killed in Iran

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Yes, it does. Unlike many of you, I believe that equally applies to ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and ethnic cleansing of Jews. It is common to hear people condemn Israel while at the same time praising groups like hamas who overtly want an Islamic Arab state from the river to the sea.
I think almost everybody believes that the rule against ethnic cleansing and genocide applies to all populations. I know I do.

The problem with your argument is that Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians (180,000 perished so far), while the enemies of Israel may have a DESIRE to genocide the Israelis, but are not doing it. See the difference?
 
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They could be doing that if they'd accepted the land back in 1948 and formed an actual nation just like Israel did. Decisions have repercussions.

Too late for you to whine about that now.
Total fantasy.
Zionists were prepped from the start to attack Palestine to try to take it all over and colonize it.

Now the ICJ says its time to give it up and return it to Palestinians.

You really think you're going to kill them all?

 
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I think almost everybody believes that the rule against ethnic cleansing and genocide applies to all populations. I know I do.

The problem with your argument is that Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians (180,000 perished so far), while the enemies of Israel may have a DESIRE to genocide the Israelis, but are not doing it. See the difference?
Actually, those figures are pretty sketchy and are based on HAMAS' own bullshit. And HAMAS chooses to embed in civilian populations precisely to maximise civilian casualties in order to create adverse publicity.

It's evident that HAMAS' strategy on 7 October was to show that they could inflict egregious civilian casualties on Israel and then mobilize world opinion and use the hostages to deter Israel from invading Gaza. That would be a clear win for HAMAS and they would re-do 7 October every week or so for more wins.

But it was an unrealistic strategy and it failed big-time. If HAMAS had any conscience, they would hand back the hostages - those they haven't tortured or raped to death - and evacuate Gaza leaving the population in peace. But they won't do that because Iran would cut off those big paychecks. So they say "Fuck the civilian casualties!" and continue the war.
 
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Actually, those figures are pretty sketchy and are based on HAMAS' own bullshit. And HAMAS chooses to embed in civilian populations precisely to maximise civilian casualties in order to create adverse publicity.

It's evident that HAMAS' strategy on 7 October was to show that they could inflict egregious civilian casualties on Israel and then mobilize world opinion and use the hostages to deter Israel from invading Gaza. That would be a clear win for HAMAS and they would re-do 7 October every week or so for more wins.

But it was an unrealistic strategy and it failed big-time. If HAMAS had any conscience, they would hand back the hostages - those they haven't tortured or raped to death - and evacuate Gaza leaving the population in peace. But they won't do that because Iran would cut off those big paychecks. So they say "Fuck the civilian casualties!" and continue the war.
The Lancet says Palestinian numbers are accurate.
Or at least they used to be, all the dead were counted in hospitals and Israel has destroyed the hospitals.
The number buried in rubble is 10-40,000 now.

The Lancet also argues that its likely Israel has killed 186,000.

Netanyahu knew Palestinians would attack and allowed it to happen, he needed a war to rescue his failing career.

Now Israel is just bombing everything and killing everyone they can get way with killing.
 
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Actually, those figures are pretty sketchy and are based on HAMAS' own bullshit. And HAMAS chooses to embed in civilian populations precisely to maximise civilian casualties in order to create adverse publicity.

It's evident that HAMAS' strategy on 7 October was to show that they could inflict egregious civilian casualties on Israel and then mobilize world opinion and use the hostages to deter Israel from invading Gaza. That would be a clear win for HAMAS and they would re-do 7 October every week or so for more wins.

But it was an unrealistic strategy and it failed big-time. If HAMAS had any conscience, they would hand back the hostages - those they haven't tortured or raped to death - and evacuate Gaza leaving the population in peace. But they won't do that because Iran would cut off those big paychecks. So they say "Fuck the civilian casualties!" and continue the war.
Cult fiction
 

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Total fantasy.
What? You mean that the Arab leaders accepted the land offer in 1948?

Zionists were prepped from the start to attack Palestine to try to take it all over and colonize it.
So you're saying that the Arab leaders were unprepared? We both agree that they've been poor leaders. One bad decision after another. Repercussions.

Now the ICJ says its time to give it up and return it to Palestinians.
And the UN says nothing of the kind. ZERO resolutions from the UN
You really think you're going to kill them all?
If you cared one bit about the Gazans, you'd call for Hamas to surrender.
 

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Not any more, Shazi.
Israel has now killed way more athletes.
Actually, regardless of any numbers, the Munich Massacre will live on forever in the annals of infamy and evil. It is THE most well known terror attack involving athletes in history. Cowardly terrorists, that you support.

Zionists are the gold medal winners in genocide, all categories.
Such an appropriate nickname, Geno. It captures the essence of your character.
 

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What? You mean that the Arab leaders accepted the land offer in 1948?

So you're saying that the Arab leaders were unprepared? We both agree that they've been poor leaders. One bad decision after another. Repercussions.

And the UN says nothing of the kind. ZERO resolutions from the UN

If you cared one bit about the Gazans, you'd call for Hamas to surrender.
Was it a slow shift or were you always a racial supremacist who thinks might is the only right?
Does all your complaining about Hamas make you feel better about becoming Hamas, only worse?
Do these threads just give you a chance to gloat about your nazi like success over the indigenous people of Palestine?



 
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Actually, regardless of any numbers, the Munich Massacre will live on forever in the annals of infamy and evil. It is THE most well known terror attack involving athletes in history. Cowardly terrorists, that you support.
No, shazi, that was terrorism.
You support terrorism on a much worse scale.
Everything you have become makes you so much worse than the PLO, Hamas or any Palestinian group.
On every level.


You own the genocide as much as you own the geno nickname, shazi.
This is what you back, this is who you've become.

 

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Actually, those figures are pretty sketchy and are based on HAMAS' own bullshit. And HAMAS chooses to embed in civilian populations precisely to maximise civilian casualties in order to create adverse publicity.

It's evident that HAMAS' strategy on 7 October was to show that they could inflict egregious civilian casualties on Israel and then mobilize world opinion and use the hostages to deter Israel from invading Gaza. That would be a clear win for HAMAS and they would re-do 7 October every week or so for more wins.

But it was an unrealistic strategy and it failed big-time. If HAMAS had any conscience, they would hand back the hostages - those they haven't tortured or raped to death - and evacuate Gaza leaving the population in peace. But they won't do that because Iran would cut off those big paychecks. So they say "Fuck the civilian casualties!" and continue the war.
So you agree with me.


"I think almost everybody believes that the rule against ethnic cleansing and genocide applies to all populations. I know I do.

The problem with your argument is that Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians (180,000 perished so far), while the enemies of Israel may have a DESIRE to genocide the Israelis, but are not doing it. See the difference?"
 

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What? You mean that the Arab leaders accepted the land offer in 1948?

So you're saying that the Arab leaders were unprepared? We both agree that they've been poor leaders. One bad decision after another. Repercussions.

And the UN says nothing of the kind. ZERO resolutions from the UN

If you cared one bit about the Gazans, you'd call for Hamas to surrender.
Deflection
 

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I said this.
They could be doing that if they'd accepted the land back in 1948 and formed an actual nation just like Israel did. Decisions have repercussions.
And you called it fantasy.

I asked what part of that is fantasy. Did the Palis accept the land?

And this is your reply?
Was it a slow shift or were you always a racial supremacist who thinks might is the only right?
Does all your complaining about Hamas make you feel better about becoming Hamas, only worse?
Do these threads just give you a chance to gloat about your nazi like success over the indigenous people of Palestine?
As your Little Buddy says:

Deflection.
 

shack

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The Lancet says Palestinian numbers are accurate.
The Lancet issued no statement whatsoever.

Show us words issued by someone from the Lancet saying that
. I've challenged you dozens of times and you have failed every time but just keep repeating your lie. This lie will be challenged and exposed each time you repeat it.
 

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So you agree with me.
"I think almost everybody believes that the rule against ethnic cleansing and genocide applies to all populations. I know I do.
The problem with your argument is that Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians (180,000 perished so far), while the enemies of Israel may have a DESIRE to genocide the Israelis, but are not doing it. See the difference?"
Delusional.
 

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The Lancet issued no statement whatsoever.

Show us words issued by someone from the Lancet saying that. I've challenged you dozens of times and you have failed every time but just keep repeating your lie. This lie will be challenged and exposed each time you repeat it.
I don't care what you say.
You are a genocidal zionist lying your face off daily.

The Lancet is trustworthy, you aren't.
There is no need to prove anything to you.

Which defence you trying today?
 

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So you agree with me.


"I think almost everybody believes that the rule against ethnic cleansing and genocide applies to all populations. I know I do.

The problem with your argument is that Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians (180,000 perished so far), while the enemies of Israel may have a DESIRE to genocide the Israelis, but are not doing it. See the difference?"
Why would I agree with you, Danny?

Israel has a right to self defence. If the only way it can defend itself involves warfare in built-up areas, it has the right to do that and defend its own population.

Danny, when the Nazi army entrenched itself in Berlin in 1945 and dared the Soviets to come and attack it, should your commie buddies have said "Can't do that. We'll kill German civilians?"
 
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