Hamas leader killed in Iran

[shack]

But this is probably the first time that you've even insinuated that Arab and Palestinian leaders made choices that have been harmful to Palestinian people.

I'm not sure if this was intended to be directed at me or if it was meant for Geno.

Assuming it was intended for me:

I've never discussed much from a historical perspective, but as I've got more involved in these discussions in the last year, I've gained more knowledge from people like you (mainly you, LOL) and as such I may chime in a bit more frequently from that perspective.

My main focus has been exposing Geno's racist and thoroughly hateful lies. I don't feel that they should go unchallenged. At the same time every single thing that goes on is 100% Israel's fault. In every conflict, not just war, the reality is that there's always 3 sides to the story. Geno deals in absolutes, not reality, and that is a big negative to his debating style. Combined with his blatant lying he has lost all credibility and has become a parody of himself. His arguments have become laughably weak and moronic.

As such it has become much easier to put the ball back in his court and make him back up his BS, which he routinely is unable to do. He either repeats his lies (which have already been debunked), deflects, does a whataboutism, answers a question with a question or twists one's words around to come to a preposterous conclusion. It's getting too easy to make him look ridiculous.

So, in this case, I thought that pointing out how Jewish/Israeli leaders' different approach to decision making compared to the Arab leaders', as being a major consideration in where the peoples of both sides are right now was pretty obvious. I know he'll just keep carrying on but as he gets exposed more and more, his pics, retweets and lies become more and more vile and hateful. It's hard to believe how much hate he has in him. The blood must be pouring out of his eyes. It's shocking.

If that above comment was not intended for me:

 

[Frankfooter]

I'm not sure if this was intended to be directed at me or if it was meant for Geno.

Assuming it was intended for me:

I've never discussed much from a historical perspective, but as I've got more involved in these discussions in the last year, I've gained more knowledge from people like you (mainly you, LOL) and as such I may chime in a bit more frequently from that perspective.

My main focus has been exposing Geno's racist and thoroughly hateful lies. I don't feel that they should go unchallenged. At the same time every single thing that goes on is 100% Israel's fault. In every conflict, not just war, the reality is that there's always 3 sides to the story. Geno deals in absolutes, not reality, and that is a big negative to his debating style. Combined with his blatant lying he has lost all credibility and has become a parody of himself. His arguments have become laughably weak and moronic.

As such it has become much easier to put the ball back in his court and make him back up his BS, which he routinely is unable to do. He either repeats his lies (which have already been debunked), deflects, does a whataboutism, answers a question with a question or twists one's words around to come to a preposterous conclusion. It's getting too easy to make him look ridiculous.

So, in this case, I thought that pointing out how Jewish/Israeli leaders' different approach to decision making compared to the Arab leaders', as being a major consideration in where the peoples of both sides are right now was pretty obvious. I know he'll just keep carrying on but as he gets exposed more and more, his pics, retweets and lies become more and more vile and hateful. It's hard to believe how much hate he has in him. The blood must be pouring out of his eyes. It's shocking.

If that above comment was not intended for me:

shack counter:
54 accusations of lying, 45 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

The amazing thing is that you think I've lied and that you think you've proven it.
But then again, you also think genocide is totally cool.

Your view of history is just as screwed up, Shazi.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1821880734044262448

 

[shack]

Didn't you recently post that the Lancet verified Hamas' numbers? Now you say that the dead are almost 5 times what Hamas claims?

The Lancet never issued any statement whatsoever regarding that study. The Lancet simply printed a letter sent to them by the authors outlining their extremely biased and flawed study. Flawed? When they claim that it is "reasonable" to arbitrarily quadruple the numbers Hamas has supplied to them, which we all know are inflated and unverified, but they accepted at face value, that is pretty damn flawed. But as I said, not a single comment was put forth by the Lancet itself.

Of course, Geno then prints a fake headline saying that "The Lancet says that Israel has killed 180,000" and then people like "Little Buddy" repeat it. BTW, neither the Lancet nor even the authors of the study attributed any blame as to who is responsible for these deaths. The study simply was estimating how many people have died because of this conflict, not who is at fault for them.

 

[shack]

The amazing thing is that you think I've lied and that you think you've proven it.

Actually, it's not me. It's EVERYBODY here knows you lie repeatedly and your reputation in that regard is cemented such that you now have no credibility. There's your proof, Geno.

 

[Frankfooter]

The Lancet never issued any statement whatsoever regarding that study. The Lancet simply printed a letter sent to them by the authors outlining their extremely biased and flawed study. Flawed? When they claim that it is "reasonable" to arbitrarily quadruple the numbers Hamas has supplied to them, which we all know are inflated and unverified, but they accepted at face value, that is pretty damn flawed. But as I said, not a single comment was put forth by the Lancet itself.

Of course, Geno then prints a fake headline saying that "The Lancet says that Israel has killed 180,000" and then people like "Little Buddy" repeat it. BTW, neither the Lancet nor even the authors of the study attributed any blame as to who is responsible for these deaths. The study simply was estimating how many people have died because of this conflict, not who is at fault for them.

Your arguments are flawed, the justifications of a racist trying to claim you're not really racist and backing genocide.
A previous Lancet study said Palestinian reports on the number of dead are accurate.

This letter uses a standard battlefield formula used to calculate casualties in wars for decades. They picked a conservative estimate from that formula.
Israel has also destroyed all the hospitals in Gaza, where bodies were counted and tens and tens of thousands of bodies remained buried in rubble.

The Lancet thinks that estimate was trustworthy enough to publish.
Nobody thinks you are trustworthy.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822005263051976869

 

[Frankfooter]

Actually, it's not me. It's EVERYBODY here knows you lie repeatedly and your reputation in that regard is cemented such that you now have no credibility. There's your proof, Geno.

Prove I've lied, Shazi.
Go ahead, prove it.

 

[shack]

The Lancet posted a study that applied standard battlefield math to counted dead and said that its likely Israel has killed over 186,000 Palestinians.

1) You have yet to provide any other study that utilizes this supposedly "standard" math. It is nothing more than a fabrication on your part. Show us another legit study that uses this formula. You can't because it doesn't exist.

2) Once again, you have yet to provide a single statement authored by the Lancet that accuses Israel of these deaths, farcical number or not. Even the authors never assigned any blame. Show us a statement from the Lancet itself that says this is their position. You can't because it doesn't exist.

You should stop trying to invent your own truths by repeating these lies, Geno. Those are Nazi propaganda tactics.

 

[shack]

This letter uses a standard battlefield formula used to calculate casualties in wars for decades.

In that case, show us who devised this formula, when it was first used and other reputable/verified studies that used this formula. It seems like an easy request seeing as it's been used for decades.

Or you can continue to show your impotence by shooting more blanks.

But at least you now agree this this is just a letter to the editor and not an actual study that the Lancet peer reviewed. It is simply the authors' opinion. Nothing more.

 

[mandrill]

 

[shack]

Prove I've lied, Shazi.
Go ahead, prove it.

Been there and done that 100 times.

The rest of the board knows and accepts it already, which is good enough for me. Your opinion is worthless.

 

[Frankfooter]

1) You have yet to provide any other study that utilizes this supposedly "standard" math. It is nothing more than a fabrication on your part. Show us another legit study that uses this formula. You can't because it doesn't exist.

2) Once again, you have yet to provide a single statement authored by the Lancet that accuses Israel of these deaths, farcical number or not. Even the authors never assigned any blame. Show us a statement from the Lancet itself that says this is their position. You can't because it doesn't exist.

You should stop trying to invent your own truths by repeating these lies, Geno. Those are Nazi propaganda tactics.

Shazi, shut up.
Until you write to the Lancet and get them to retract it, the numbers and calculation stand as the most accurate likely fatality count.

You can't convince anyone here, write the Lancet.
Israel has likely killed 186,000 Palestinians in the genocide you back.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822030397871681825

 

[Frankfooter]

Been there and done that 100 times.

The rest of the board knows and accepts it already, which is good enough for me. Your opinion is worthless.

You can't prove I've ever lied, Shazi.
This happens every time I challenge you.

All you did is prove that you are the dishonest one here.

shack counter:
55 accusations of lying, 45 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Didnt I try to warn you about radical Islam back in 2019, and didnt you call me out for being Islamophobic for doing so??

Thread: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/rig...hich-one-is-the-greater-global-threat.676045/

 

[shack]

Shazi, shut up.
Until you write to the Lancet and get them to retract it, the numbers and calculation stand as the most accurate likely fatality count.

As predicted you are impotent and keep shooting blanks.

You can't produce one other study that uses this phantom formula even though, according to you, it's been in standard use for decades, let alone who devised it and when it was first use.

And you can't produce a single statement authored by the Lancet itself to back you up. You just keep regurgitating what the authors say, and even they didn't say that Israel was to blame. How can they retract something that they never said.

All you can do is attack me with accusations, tell me to shut up and make stupid challenges. You keep embarrassing yourself and continue to provide your own proof that you lie.

 

[shack]

You can't prove I've ever lied, Shazi.
This happens every time I challenge you.

All you did is prove that you are the dishonest one here.

shack counter:
55 accusations of lying, 45 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

You are tedious.

 

[Frankfooter]

As predicted you are impotent and keep shooting blanks.

You can't produce one other study that uses this phantom formula even though, according to you, it's been in standard use for decades, let alone who devised it and when it was first use.

And you can't produce a single statement authored by the Lancet itself to back you up. You just keep regurgitating what the authors say, and even they didn't say that Israel was to blame. How can they retract something that they never said.

All you can do is attack me with accusations, tell me to shut up and make stupid challenges. You keep embarrassing yourself and continue to provide your own proof that you lie.

As predicted, you replied by whining.
Find a more trusted source, Shazi, with better numbers.

Until you do so, its correct to say that Israel has likely killed 186,000 Palestinians in the genocide you promote here daily.
What's totally amazing is you have made Hamas look more honest than you and zionists.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822244652000411991

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822022416169906512

 

[basketcase]

Your arguments are flawed,...

Are you now saying Hamas is lying when they say the death toll is roughly 40,000?

Not surprising that you ignore palestinians whenever it doesn't fit your crusade.

 

[basketcase]

Are you saying you haven't read the ruling?
Typical.
...

Quote where it says Israel needs to immediately and unilaterally hand West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians and which Palestinian group they should hand it to.

The fact that you refuse to means either you won't look at anything not in tweets or you know what you claim isn't there. I assume the former.

 

[basketcase]

Prove I've lied, Shazi.
Go ahead, prove it.

Happens pretty much every day. We can start with you endlessly resorting to faking people's quotes.

 

[basketcase]

...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822022416169906512

And back to quoting the anti-semite who believes that Jews have "subjugated" America.