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Phil C. McNasty

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I said back in 2016 that Trump would cause the exposure of corruption. I thought it would be financial corruption. Instead it's this.

The reason why so many party leaders are fighting to keep a lid on this is it implicates administration's going back to Clinton. They all knew and looked the other way. And a lot of important people.

But it looks like, while they can for now prevent full release legally, it it too late. It's going to get out somehow
Maybe people within Clinton's administration, but Virginia Giuffre has also exonerated Bill Clinton himself.


Giuffre also mentions that she was once present for dinners Epstein had with former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, but she also didn't accuse them of any wrongdoing
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You know Trump is a womanizer, and you know he was best buds with Epstein, correct? Can we agree on this?

I will concede and believe Clinton had his fingers in places he shouldn't have; why can't you believe Trump did as well if we agree on the statement above? I see it as both Clinton and Trump didn't go specifically after underage girls as your average pedo would, but if on the island and a borderline underage young lady was available who didn't look like a child, they were in like bees on honey. I have brought Clinton into this only to allow you to step back, put your reasonable goggles on, and reassess your naivety
Giuffre also exonerated Bill Clinton. Please do your research before you spout bullshit


Giuffre also mentions that she was once present for dinners Epstein had with former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, but she also didn't accuse them of any wrongdoing
 

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Giuffre also exonerated Bill Clinton. Please do your research before you spout bullshit

When did I mention Giuffre? Why is Trump and the admin going ape shit about releasing the files? Stop pretzelling yourself to defend your cult leader.

Question: Why was Trump walking into dressing rooms where young ladies were changing? Is that normal for male pageant owners to do as Trump stated?
 
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Musk should be subpoenaed to testify on what he say and why he made the statement that Trump is all over the Epstein files
 
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When did I mention Giuffre? Why is Trump and the admin going ape shit about releasing the files? Stop pretzelling yourself to defend your cult leader.

Question: Why was Trump walking into dressing rooms where young ladies were changing? Is that normal for male pageant owners to do as Trump stated?
Now you're changing the subject because you know you fell for the Dems bullshit.

To answer your question, nobody has so far proven he walked into those dressing rooms.
Its all just been he said vs. she said.
And there is also ZERO evidence that Trump abused underage girls.

But keep drinking the koolaid, thats what you're good at
 

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Maybe people within Clinton's administration, but Virginia Giuffre has also exonerated Bill Clinton himself.

You do realize he trafficked a lot of girls right?

I wonder how many were runaways that ended up in the ocean?
 

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Now you're changing the subject because you know you fell for the Dems bullshit.

To answer your question, nobody has so far proven he walked into those dressing rooms.
Its all just been he said vs. she said.
And there is also ZERO evidence that Trump abused underage girls.

But keep drinking the koolaid, thats what you're good at
The larger issue is what he knew. Did he know it was going on and looked the other way? Was he compromised in some other way?
 

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The larger issue is what he knew. Did he know it was going on and looked the other way? Was he compromised in some other way?
We could ask the same of Bill Clinton.
He flew at least 17 times on Epstein's plane.
Did he also look the other way??

 

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We could ask the same of Bill Clinton.
He flew at least 17 times on Epstein's plane.
Did he also look the other way??

Yes he did, as did Hillary.

That is the point I made. Too many involved. They all hung out together, attended each other's weddings and parties.

But Trump is in office right now. So that is why he is the bigger news. And in the most danger.
 

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I said back in 2016 that Trump would cause the exposure of corruption. I thought it would be financial corruption. Instead it's this.

The reason why so many party leaders are fighting to keep a lid on this is it implicates administration's going back to Clinton. They all knew and looked the other way. And a lot of important people.

But it looks like, while they can for now prevent full release legally, it it too late. It's going to get out somehow.
Here's the thing, I don't think there are very many leftists who would support Clinton if it were shown he molestaed/raped underage girls with Epstein. But, I also don't think MAGA is really going to care. They'll probably be laser focused on people like Bill Clinton, but find excuses for Trump or believe it was a hoax. That's the issue here. For virtually any public figure, being tied to Epstein should be political death. I mean, the whole QAnon bullshit thing was all about how Trump would expose and prosecute the pedophile sex trafficking rings. Hell, some idio went to that pizza place looking for a basement rape chamber that didn't exist. And who can forget that picture of all those right-wing commentators/podcast hosts/influencers at the White House back in March holding the supposed "Epstein Files," they were all so laser focused on releasing those findings...Until Donald said there was no client list...now, silence.

I remember reading about Epstein years ago, before he became infamous. It didn't mention Trump, nor really any of the other wealthy or connected men who likely raped young girls on the island or at his Florida compound. It painted him as a creepy old fuck who seduced and drugs the girls and had them first give him massages then other sex acts. He sounded like a dispicable scumbag back then. Now, with all the allegations, including royalty like former Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz, plus rumors about folks like Bill Gates...you wonder what is real.
 

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Here's the thing, I don't think there are very many leftists who would support Clinton if it were shown he molestaed/raped underage girls with Epstein. But, I also don't think MAGA is really going to care. They'll probably be laser focused on people like Bill Clinton, but find excuses for Trump or believe it was a hoax. That's the issue here. For virtually any public figure, being tied to Epstein should be political death. I mean, the whole QAnon bullshit thing was all about how Trump would expose and prosecute the pedophile sex trafficking rings. Hell, some idio went to that pizza place looking for a basement rape chamber that didn't exist. And who can forget that picture of all those right-wing commentators/podcast hosts/influencers at the White House back in March holding the supposed "Epstein Files," they were all so laser focused on releasing those findings...Until Donald said there was no client list...now, silence.

I remember reading about Epstein years ago, before he became infamous. It didn't mention Trump, nor really any of the other wealthy or connected men who likely raped young girls on the island or at his Florida compound. It painted him as a creepy old fuck who seduced and drugs the girls and had them first give him massages then other sex acts. He sounded like a dispicable scumbag back then. Now, with all the allegations, including royalty like former Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz, plus rumors about folks like Bill Gates...you wonder what is real.
The MAGA people are already pissed and calling him out. I actually think this will be a red line for at least half of them.

And that is enough to break his power.
 

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Here's the thing, I don't think there are very many leftists who would support Clinton if it were shown he molestaed/raped underage girls with Epstein. But, I also don't think MAGA is really going to care
Nope, thats not true

The MAGA people are already pissed and calling him out. I actually think this will be a red line for at least half of them
Definitely a red line, but I would have to see strong evidence and so far there's nothing.
In fact, I've seen more evidence from victims that Trump never abused any underage girls at all

I think some of you have forgotten about this thread: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/epstein-victims-speak-about-trump-sexual-abuse.899167/

Video: https://www.tiktok.com/@brentnatzle/video/7545948508965113101?_r=1&_t=ZS-8zQk9wvQN84
 
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Nope, thats not true


Definitely a red line, but I would have to see strong evidence and so far there's nothing.
In fact, I've seen more evidence from victims that Trump never abused any underage girls at all

I think some of you have forgotten about this thread: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/epstein-victims-speak-about-trump-sexual-abuse.899167/

Video: https://www.tiktok.com/@brentnatzle/video/7545948508965113101?_r=1&_t=ZS-8zQk9wvQN84
It's not just about whats in the files. It's about blocking the release.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Except Epstein's email says this is not true
And you believe a dead pedo??

Trump should easily be able to provide proof of Jeffery epstein's membership through receipts for dues, etc. If he doesn't, I have to believe Epstein that trump was lying
Even if Trump did that, Lefties would just say those receipts are fake or photoshopped
 
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