Gas-Powered Cars Will Vanish in 8 Years, Big Oil Will Collapse: Stanford Study
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Not in the summer with all those AC units running.
Besides, do you think that everyone will be charging their cars at night?
A Tesla draws 34 amps at 240 volts. It needs a 50 amp dedicated circuit. . So most families have 2 cars. That's 68 amps just to charge the cars.
Residential Air conditioning units (central type) probably draw 12 to 14 amps. The fan in the furnace probably another 4 or 5. The fridge probably 4 or 5. Add it all up. You would definitely need a 200 amp service to your house, if not more.
And then, what about guys like me in the older part of Toronto where one has no choice except to park on the street.
How do we charge our cars?
Really huge and long extension cords for people to either trip over or steal for the copper?
What I would do with a self-driving electric car is have it deliver me home (or to work), take itself to the nearest charging station and then return to pick me up either at a scheduled time or when summoned.
EDIT: or rent it out when I'm not using it. It can Uber itself out while I'm at work and asleep. When power drops to 40% or whatever, it stops taking fares and goes for a recharge.
Driving along the 401 and DVP most days, IMO self driving cars that coordinate with each other for optimal traffic flow could only be an improvement over the completely random and individualistic mayhem that occurs now.
That would be wonderful. But it's not happening in 8 years. That's decades away. I would be delighted but surprised to see this as the status quo in my lifetime.
Some technologies move faster than others, and then there is the politics, cost, and infrastructure required for implementation.
We were supposed to be living like the Jetsons already.
When I was a kid, my father who was born in the 1920's said that when he was a kid, everyone talked about flying cars in their lifetime. I think 8 years to go all electric is a little optimistic. I remember in the '70s or '80s a fellow being interviewed explained that the technology currently exists to electrify the roads, and people wouldn't gas up. They would buy mileage.
The Saudis have seen the writing on the wall. That's why a barrel of oil is now under $50. They have decided that in a shrinking market people should buy their oil, not some else's. Their oil is still easy to get out of the ground, and at these prices they can still make money.
The next 'oil' will be water. I wouldn't be surprised if future wars will be fought over water.
The Saudis have seen the writing on the wall. That's why a barrel of oil is now under $50. They have decided that in a shrinking market people should buy their oil, not some else's. Their oil is still easy to get out of the ground, and at these prices they can still make money.
The next 'oil' will be water. I wouldn't be surprised if future wars will be fought over water.
I get the feeling that some don't understand that what ever the amount of energy/watts, you take from a battery, the SAME amount has to be replaced.
Bearing mind that 1 horse power equals roughly equal 750 watts.
And then look at the amount of energy that is consumed by burning petrol,...and then have it magically replaced by wind mills and solar cells,...is not facing reality.
Bearing mind that 1 horse power equals roughly equal 750 watts.
And then look at the amount of energy that is consumed by burning petrol,...and then have it magically replaced by wind mills and solar cells,...is not facing reality.
This is a false extreme argument, EV will continue to grab share. I think modestly (EV pickup anyone). Efficiency will continue to improve. Oil exporters are flat to down both short and long term IMO.
I don't think electric vehicles will ever fully replace gasoline vehicles, but they might push gasoline vehicles into the niche diesel now occupies.
There's certain applications where recharging isn't convenient (road trips) be an certain environments where batteries perform poorly (anywhere with a bitterly cold winter).
But for most people most of the time an electric vehicle will work: commuting, getting groceries, mid range outings.
There's certain applications where recharging isn't convenient (road trips) be an certain environments where batteries perform poorly (anywhere with a bitterly cold winter).
But for most people most of the time an electric vehicle will work: commuting, getting groceries, mid range outings.
While that's true, your overlooking the benefits. By moving the power generation to a central location, like a power plant, you can have a much cleaner system. Even if you end up burning gasoline or oil to generate the power, you can have much more sophisticated filters in a factory sized power plant than you can have in a car engine.
Also you can take advantage of other forms of power when they ARE available and so overall reduce by some extent the need to burn oil.
Also there are unintended or different effect from changing technologies. I remember when desktop computers were introduced and we would all operate in "paperless offices" because no one would need to print anything anymore. That sure hasn't happened.
I really like the idea of EV car share, since I usually only need a vehicle for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening. If I could be part of an "auto club" and the car could drive itself, I don't really need to own it or have a parking sport for it.
Instead of saying this will happen in 8 years the report should be amended to, "8 years after the introduction of consumer-level fully autonomous vehicles".
And what happens with billions of old smartphones?!
If they can still hold a charge, the car batteries can be used for grid (or homeowner) storage. They don't need to be vehicle-level functioning for that use. If they can't hold a charge they are recycled into the component parts. This is another technology still in its infancy.
https://cleantechnica.com/2015/07/23/electric-vehicle-battery-can-recycled/
Here is you battery breakthrough.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...wimrc1pj6ND0i-Onw&sig2=-quaTHBZyeEmu5WW0Rdt9g
And there is still an enormous environmental impact to recycling and new production.
Yup, all those idiots that keep changing lanes and never get more then a couple of hundred meters ahead while exposing everyone to much higher risks.
