I amYou sound like a real pleasure to be around buddy
I do get to choose who I spend time with
You would not make the list
You are not my buddy
I amYou sound like a real pleasure to be around buddy
#1 you are speculating there will always be mass murders - So no amount of gun control will fix thatLet them use a knife. Or a car, or explosives. We can deal with it then. Currently they dont. The current issue is primarily with guns. So we have to address the current issue, not speculate on what they might or might not do.
wrong & wrong againYou obviously dont agree with gun control legislation, so you should have no problem with my statement that crime has to be handled differently.
As I suspected you think social workers , defunded police reduced sentences and fairy dust is the answer to crimeCrime has various reasons - poverty, systemic racism, overt policing causing more imprisonments which consequently churns out hardened criminals who continue their crime spree etc., That is a bigger conversation than gun control to curb mass shootings.
That's a dishonest straw man argument, larue.#1 you are speculating there will always be mass murders - So no amount of gun control will fix that
#2 Your objective is to control guns not to prevent mass murders- that is messed up
I am not speculating there will be mass murders, but one is VERY justified in expecting mass murders to occur. You'd be VERY NAIVE to think that mass murders are just going to stop.#1 you are speculating there will always be mass murders - So no amount of gun control will fix that
#2 Your objective is to control guns not to prevent mass murders- that is messed up
You ARE against gun control legislation. You said so in your previous sentence. lol.wrong & wrong again
Do not pretend to tell me what I think, you will get it wrong
If you want to own a gun , take the courses, get a license and use it responsibly-
And one other thing , do not be a lunatic
Yeah how is a heavily militarized police, over policing and locking people up for minor offences etc working out for you in reducing crime in these poor neighbourhoods?As I suspected you think social workers , defunded police reduced sentences and fairy dust is the answer to crime
If there's a will there's a way...if a mass shooter wants to go on mass shooting, do you really think gun control legislation would stop him? No matter what motivates him to kill...Gangbangers are not the target for gun control legislation. Crime should be handled differently.
Gun control legislation should be to tackle mass shootings and other types of crimes committed with legally purchased firearms. Even though mass shootings may not be the majority of gun related deaths, it results in the deaths of vulnerable people - children, minorities (race motivated), lgbtq etc and also create a very insecure environment. Not to mention the cultural messaging and significance some of these hate crimes carry.
Yeah he may not be able to find weapons to shoot. Look at Australia for example. After the Port Arthur massacre, they bought back 650,000 guns. How many mass shootings have you heard of in Australia after that? So yes, gun legislation works. It is what the US needs.If there's a will there's a way...if a mass shooter wants to go on mass shooting, do you really think gun control legislation would stop him? No matter what motivates him to kill...
As long as it makes it harder for him then its better.If there's a will there's a way...if a mass shooter wants to go on mass shooting, do you really think gun control legislation would stop him? No matter what motivates him to kill...
Does legislation make it harder for criminals to acquire guns? It's laughable how when you hear "mass shootings" automatically what comes to your mind is some 15 yr old from the suburbs who had access to his parent's guns and goes on a spree....get off the television...As long as it makes it harder for him then its better.
You don't think people would be way less worried if all mass murderers had were knives?
Yes.Does legislation make it harder for criminals to acquire guns? It's laughable how when you hear "mass shootings" automatically what comes to your mind is some 15 yr old from the suburbs who had access to his parent's guns and goes on a spree....get off the television...
The majority of mass shooters are legal gun owners. Why do you think legislation won't work? It has worked elsewhere, it will work in the US.Does legislation make it harder for criminals to acquire guns? It's laughable how when you hear "mass shootings" automatically what comes to your mind is some 15 yr old from the suburbs who had access to his parent's guns and goes on a spree....get off the television...
If nothing else it would likely cut down the number of deaths and injuries from these events even if it does not reduce the number of events. Same with high capacity magazines.If there's a will there's a way...if a mass shooter wants to go on mass shooting, do you really think gun control legislation would stop him? No matter what motivates him to kill...
How did I know I would invoke a reaction out of you from just one simple word?I am
I do get to choose who I spend time with
You would not make the list
You are not my buddy
This chart makes so much sense. Something to consider about it though...How many states with strict gun laws border those without? For example, the right-wingers make a big deal about the level of violence in Chicago, which has strict gun laws. What they never want to admit (or talk about) is the fact that Gary, Indiana (a state with relatively relaxed gun laws) is only 45 minutes away. I can't even get out of Toronto in under that time. So, how hard is it for someone to drive there, pick up a weapon (or 10) and bring them back over into Illinois?That's a dishonest straw man argument, larue.
More guns = more deaths by guns.
Mass murderers, gangbangers, cops or whoever is doing the killing.
More gun control = fewer people killed by guns.
Those are the facts.
So why would you argue for more people to die by gunshot?
I'm sure there are other factors that probably explain why the correlation isn't exact.This chart makes so much sense. Something to consider about it though...How many states with strict gun laws border those without? For example, the right-wingers make a big deal about the level of violence in Chicago, which has strict gun laws. What they never want to admit (or talk about) is the fact that Gary, Indiana (a state with relatively relaxed gun laws) is only 45 minutes away. I can't even get out of Toronto in under that time. So, how hard is it for someone to drive there, pick up a weapon (or 10) and bring them back over into Illinois?
I also want to re-visit the carnage that long guns do. Nearly all the major shootings massacres used them.
San Bernardino, CA shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 14 killed, 22 injured
Pulse Night Club (Orlando, FL): AR-15 type rifle - 49 killed, 53 injured
Las Vegas shooting: AR-15 type rife (among other weapons) - 60 killed, 413 injured
Colorado Springs shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 5 dead, 25 injured ***Could have been much worse without heroic intervention***
Sandy Hooks (Newtown CT): AR-15 type rifle - 26 dead
Uvalde, TX shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 21 dead, 17 wounded
Notice a pattern? Nearly every shooting with an assault style weapon killed double digit people...
That's just a small sample, but the death toll...
This is true even outside the US. In the Port Arthur massacre in Australia, the guy used an AR-15 too.This chart makes so much sense. Something to consider about it though...How many states with strict gun laws border those without? For example, the right-wingers make a big deal about the level of violence in Chicago, which has strict gun laws. What they never want to admit (or talk about) is the fact that Gary, Indiana (a state with relatively relaxed gun laws) is only 45 minutes away. I can't even get out of Toronto in under that time. So, how hard is it for someone to drive there, pick up a weapon (or 10) and bring them back over into Illinois?
I also want to re-visit the carnage that long guns do. Nearly all the major shootings massacres used them.
San Bernardino, CA shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 14 killed, 22 injured
Pulse Night Club (Orlando, FL): AR-15 type rifle - 49 killed, 53 injured
Las Vegas shooting: AR-15 type rife (among other weapons) - 60 killed, 413 injured
Colorado Springs shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 5 dead, 25 injured ***Could have been much worse without heroic intervention***
Sandy Hooks (Newtown CT): AR-15 type rifle - 26 dead
Uvalde, TX shooting: AR-15 type rifle - 21 dead, 17 wounded
Notice a pattern? Nearly every shooting with an assault style weapon killed double digit people...
That's just a small sample, but the death toll...
10 wordsHow did I know I would invoke a reaction out of you from just one simple word?
I simply confirmed I am a pleasure to be around , however too bad for you that you do not make the short list of people I chose to spend time withYou sound like a real pleasure to be around buddy
Aren't you one of the guys who complains when race is brought up?Just one example. I knew right away why the liberal press didn't mention the race of the Wal-Mart shooter.
??I am not speculating there will be mass murders, but one is VERY justified in expecting mass murders to occur. You'd be VERY NAIVE to think that mass murders are just going to stop.
followed up byI am not speculating there will be mass murders
so you would be very naive not to speculate? or you are not speculating and therefore naive ?You'd be VERY NAIVE to think that mass murders are just going to stop.
So no amount of gun control legislation will stop the problem you hope to addressYou'd be VERY NAIVE to think that mass murders are just going to stop
my previous sentence was "You ARE against gun control legislation. You said so in your previous sentence. lol.
Yeah how is a heavily militarized police, over policing and locking people up for minor offences etc working out for you in reducing crime in these poor neighbourhoods?
taking guns away from legal gun owners is no solutionYou have no solutions and you are replying for the sake of replying.