Right?!
They want a straight shot, when it's a secondary mode of transportation. You want to ride your bike to work, then take a more circuitous route and enjoy the benefits of the ride ahead.
Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!
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They want a straight shot, when it's a secondary mode of transportation. You want to ride your bike to work, then take a more circuitous route and enjoy the benefits of the ride ahead.
European cities have fewer cars per capita and more transit. They also generally have more bike lanes.
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Bikes take up way less space on the road per person, same with buses.
Cars and parked cars take up more than their share.
You want more space on roads make people drive smaller cars and ban parking on roads like Yonge and Bloor.
You missed the point.
European cities are much older, with historical buildings, fountains and such, and are built upon ancient cities from before their time. I see lots of vehicles, taxis and private vehicles and many tourist buses and just as many scooters as both of those. They have more subways, built through this labyrinth of history, and have a better use of their roads than Toronto, a supposedly "world class city" with a joke of a transit system. Their bike lanes work quite well, as does their road system working well too. Do they have some gridlock? Absolutely, just like any city, but these old cities aren't in perpetual gridlock like Toronto is. I recall getting off the DVP, about a year ago, and it took a little over an hour, to go from Richmond and Parliament, to the Harbour Castle at mid afternoon. Thankfully they have the bike lanes down there, for the handful of bikes to flow freely through the gridlock, while everyone else sat there and fumed. If memory serves me correctly, it took about 30 minutes to get through the lights at Jarvis and Richmond. I guess it's my fault though, for coming into the city without my bike to get around.
This has been the topic of numerous threads and has been explained to the bikies several times already. They ignore it.
Annie then posts photos of the DVP and 401 gridlocked and tells us that bike lanes would solve those problems.
The city is only now building RT lines to Don Mills, an "LA style subdivision" that was built for car access 60+ years ago. Toronto transit is a joke. You need a car to get in and out of downtown in this city.
How many of those cities have congestion charges?
You want more space for cars downtown over pedestrian and biking use, make it more expensive for drivers to drive downtown like they do in the European cities you think work.
Congestion charges ranked as the most effective way to reduce car use in cities - Cities Today
The study ranks the 12 most effective measures that European cities have incorporated in recent decades to reduce car numbers.
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Exactly!
The cities planners don't plan for the future, but rather react to what's happening now. Great cities make it work, with a good combination of it all, with things like bike lanes and TTC surface routes, not impacting the rest, as a whole. Past expressways have been stopped in their tracks, and there is now way to resurrect them now. They need better planning, to utilize what they have now and make it all work.
Transit is another joke, with only two subway lines and the poorer parts of the city saddled with TTC surface routes, making busy roads, even worse. St Clair used to be so nice, with the street cars, on street parking and multi lanes for cars. Cars could drive anywhere on St Clair, even on the tracks and traffic moved decently. Then they raised the tracks, which made that strictly for street car use only and the on street parking disappeared. What a fucking joke!
How many of those cities have congestion charges?
You want more space for cars downtown over pedestrian and biking use, make it more expensive for drivers to drive downtown like they do in the European cities you think work.
Congestion charges ranked as the most effective way to reduce car use in cities - Cities Today
The study ranks the 12 most effective measures that European cities have incorporated in recent decades to reduce car numbers.
Toronto has talked about levies on cars entering the city in the past. They bring this up like it's the answer to all their woes, when it's just a taxation for them to collect, without benefit to the realities of the gridlock that they help perpetuate, with things like bike lanes.
They believe that they can ban cars and that people will bicycle from Little Portugal or Cabbagetown to and from jobs in Brampton and Whitby..... They are dummies.
Except that it would work but it would piss off DoFo's suburban base.
Ford won't allow it for that reason but its the solution.
Killing bike lanes will slow the city down, neither Yonge or Bloor have been 2 lanes of traffic for a long time. You just get pockets of two lanes then bottle necks repeatedly.
Its not a solution.
Mandrill has this fantasy that he thinks everyone downtown works in Milton, a single day's drive during rush hour on the highways would clear that misconception up.
The congestion is people outside the city driving into the city, not his single neighbour who works in Whitby.
How laughable is this. Now lack of bike lanes has become a health crisis.
No wonder he had to include legislation blocking anyone from suing his government over deaths and injuries caused by cutting bike lanes.
Oh you mean like big pharma has immunity from covid vaccine injuries and death. Ride your bike in a safer location like a bike path or residential neighborhood.
What a frickin joke!
What did you expect would happen?
Fuckers from the suburbs and inner suburbs still stuck in a time and age that no long exists.
But of course, it couldn't have been:
- the sheer amount of idiot motor vehicle drivers overwhelming the roads
- construction, Ontario Line closures, Gardiner rehab road closures
- necessary stoplights
- motor vehicle gridlock
- motor vehicle blocking the the box
- motor vehicle illegal stopping/parking taking up a lane and blocking traffic
Not only are you against vaccines making people safer you're also against bike lanes that make people safer?
You don't absorb what people point out to you.
You can't suddenly ban / discourage cars in TO. The city isn't built for transit and bicycles, once you get out of the downtown core. It's under serviced with transit and it's too extensive. No one can bicycle from Cabbagetown to Brampton or Newmarket. It's not do-able.
Unlike London where you can get from the outer burbs like Croydon or Finchley directly to downtown by subway or above ground rail efficiently in 20 minutes, Toronto doesn't have that kind of transit service.
You have been told this repeatedly. You don't even acknowledge the argument or respond to it.
You simply post your photos of the DVP and 401 gridlocking.
You're like all the other bikies. Nothing exists outside your own woke world where no one should ever drive a car, no one lives or works in the outer burbs and everyone bikes around downtown where they both live and work.
What, you mean when a cyclist is injured or killed in a collision with a car, it doesn't matter who was at fault? Just blame the car driver, because they're in a car? I for one, would never put myself in danger by riding on that the road of that section of the Bayview Extension. Especially when there's a wide, dedicated bike lane that runs parallel to it. Not victim blaming, but why put yourself in danger when you don't have to. Doesn't make any sense to me.
I both cycle and drive in this city and rarely have a problem with vehicles when I ride. Probably because I obey the laws. I actually have a bigger problem with other cyclists (and pedestrians) who don't pay attention and have zero regard for the rules of the road. Food delivery riders are the worst. So many idiots.
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"Not only are you against vaccines making people safer you're also against bike lanes that make people safer"
No I just don't believe they do. And they don't calm traffic. They create it.
Santa Claus is more of a reality than anything you believe in.
