Far right groups hoping trucker protest will be Canada's January 6

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Officials are monitoring on line chatter about violence at Parliament Hill by fringe groups , anyone else wanting to see Ottawa Police/RCMP bust a few heads?
I personally don't. But it's good to know that the feds are taking this seriously and are at the ready.
 

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Officials are monitoring on line chatter about violence at Parliament Hill by fringe groups , anyone else wanting to see Ottawa Police/RCMP bust a few heads?
I don't think soldiers gave their lives in WWII for the type of authoritarian and anti-democratic government you are describing.
 

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I don't think soldiers gave their lives in WWII for the type of authoritarian and anti-democratic government you are describing.
Did they give up their lives so Alberta separatists can take over the government and form a "citizen‘s committee"?
 

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Did they give up their lives so Alberta separatists can take over the government and form a "citizen‘s committee"?
I'll have serious discussion with you, but suggesting a bunch of truckers and/or groups latching on to their protests are insurrectionists, rather than protesters, can't be taken seriously.

WWII soldiers WERE fighting for a society where citizens could peacefully protest the actions of their government, and for a society where any unaccountable government could be removed by election.
 
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I'll have serious discussion with you, but suggesting a bunch of truckers and/orgroups latching on to their protests are insurrectionists, rather than protesters, can't be taken seriously.

WWII soldiers WERE fighting for a society where citizens could peacefully protest the actions of their government, and for a society where any unaccountable government could be removed by election.
You can't have a serious discussion when you resort to insults. "Groups latching on" are the ORGANIZERS OF THE CONVOY. Who came up with this MoU.
 

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You can't have a serious discussion when you resort to insults. "Groups latching on" are the ORGANIZERS OF THE CONVOY. Who came up with this MoU.
Nonsense. Where do you get your news? Truckers organized the convoy. Truckers have been organizing convoys for various purposes since the 1960's at least. Like any large protest, people who are only marginally aligned with their protest have latched on. The mainstream media (who, lets face it, are mostly in the employ of the Liberal government and who also can't understand anything about anyone who might choose to drive a truck for living) seem to prefer to focus on the "hangers on" at the periphery of the protest. That's what their paymasters would like them to do.
 
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Nonsense. Where do you get your news? Truckers organized the convoy. Truckers have been organizing convoys for various purposes since the 1960's at least. Like any large protest, people who are only marginally aligned with their protest have latched on. The mainstream media (who, lets face it, are mostly in the employ of the Liberal government and who also can't understand anything about anyone who might choose to drive a truck for living) seem to prefer to focus on the "hangers on" at the periphery of the protest. That's what their paymasters would like them to do.
How can you say truckers organized this when trucking associations have distanced themselves from this wanting no part of it, and its organizers have no ties to the trucking industry? Truckers have been used as pawns and nothing more by Tamara Lich and her ilk.
 

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The 2-3 people I know who aren't vaxxed are withholding for purely selfish reasons, so fuck them and twice on Sundays. Better to lump them all together with the flat earthers and pee drinkers.
Why hate on the vax'ed? Your holding this needle like a badge or medal of honour! Its crap, you been watching too much TV. Natural immunity proven and CDC confirmed better then the shot for Delta. Now they are looking at Omicron. Look at Israel, most vax place on planet, media wont show or tell people all. Meanwhile in parts of Europe they are treating this like a seasonal flu. Its over by summer.
 

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How can you say truckers organized this when trucking associations have distanced themselves from this wanting no part of it, and its organizers have no ties to the trucking industry? Truckers have been used as pawns and nothing more by Tamara Lich and her ilk.
"La la la trux r awsum!".
 
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How can you say truckers organized this when trucking associations have distanced themselves from this wanting no part of it, and its organizers have no ties to the trucking industry? Truckers have been used as pawns and nothing more by Tamara Lich and her ilk.
Here's a few things you probably don't know:

1. Interprovincial trucking is subject to federal regulation (provincial/local trucking is not, and is also only a relatively small part of the supply chain problem). There are many issues for such interprovincial trucking associations to navigate with the Federal government. They will pick and choose which battles they wish to fight publicly. Most of these negotiations take place behind closed doors. The fact that Associations don't want to address their issues by way of organized protest does not mean they are offside with the points the truckers are making.
2. Independent truckers (which a large percentage of long haul truckers are) are not represented by the Associations which have been asked for comment and, in truth, are their competitors.
3. Trucking companies care about profits. Individual truckers care about their own personal earnings, and just about equally, about the freedom their lifestyle affords them. You can't assume those interests are perfectly aligned. Perhaps the trucking companies are happy with reduced tonnage but at higher hauling rates? That business model, however, doesn't put more money into the pockets of truckers.
 

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"The people who set up the GoFundMe and told donators to e-transfer money directly to their bank account, are not the organizers of the convoy". Hilarious.
 

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Here's a few things you probably don't know:

1. Interprovincial trucking is subject to federal regulation (provincial/local trucking is not, and is also only a relatively small part of the supply chain problem). There are many issues for such interprovincial trucking associations to navigate with the Federal government. They will pick and choose which battles they wish to fight publicly. Most of these negotiations take place behind closed doors. The fact that Associations don't want to address their issues by way of organized protest does not mean they are offside with the points the truckers are making.
2. Independent truckers (which a large percentage of long haul truckers are) are not represented by the Associations which have been asked for comment and, in truth, are their competitors.
3. Trucking companies care about profits. Individual truckers care about their own personal earnings, and just about equally, about the freedom their lifestyle affords them. You can't assume those interests are perfectly aligned. Perhaps the trucking companies are happy with reduced tonnage but at higher hauling rates? That business model, however, doesn't put more money into the pockets of truckers.
Fair, I will accept that and admit my knowledge of the trucking industry is very limited. However that doesn't change the fact that the organizers of this protest have no direct ties to the industry either and provide every reason for truckers to be concerned about them leading their cause. I can't buy any suggestion that there isn't anyone more qualified to take up the charge on behalf of truckers.
To paraphrase Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs..... "It would appear that truckers are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show me a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball" with noted separatists (not to mention proven racists) who have nothing to do with trucking, pretending that they are champions for the plight of truckers. If this were in support of truckers and their struggles, there would be no memorandum of understanding and calls for a Citizen's Committee.
That should tell everyone that this isn't about truckers as far that Lich & Co. are concerned and never has been.
 
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Fair, I will accept that and admit my knowledge of the trucking industry is very limited. However that doesn't change the fact that the organizers of this protest have no direct ties to the industry either and provide every reason for truckers to be concerned about them leading their cause. I can't buy any suggestion that there isn't anyone more qualified to take up the charge on behalf of truckers.
To paraphrase Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs..... "It would appear that truckers are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show me a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball" with noted separatists (not to mention proven racists) who have nothing to do with trucking, pretending that they are champions for the plight of truckers. If this were in support of truckers and their struggles, there would be no memorandum of understanding and calls for a Citizen's Committee.
That should tell everyone that this isn't about truckers as far that Lich & Co. are concerned and never has been.
While I have agreed that some of the groups purporting to speak on behalf of protesters are only loosely aligned with truckers and their specific concerns, I wouldn't go so far as saying that those who view vaccine mandates as a "freedom" issue have nothing in common with those focussed on the specfic implications of mandates in the trucking sector. All of us should be concerned about maintaining our few remaining freedoms.
 

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The damage is done. His connection to a political leader gave the cause an increased level of credibility (not to mention invaluable publicity) to its supporters who will miss any message of why he is now distancing himself because they will view it only as he was pressured into this and will further entrench their victim mentality that opposing voices are being quieted by higher powers.
The only benefit that can come now is other donors might think "wait, I can get a refund?" and discreetly ask for their money back.
 

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Apart from Robespierre's Committee for Public Safety, other great humanitarians also had committees. Stalin had one to institute his Terror, Mao had one to execute the Cultural Revolution.

Erin O'Toole is meeting the agitators without pants, he wants to show them what a big dick he is.
 
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