Maybe I should have said "I had fallen for a woman who happened to be an SP" excuse my writing.. I grew up from that.. Having said that, TO EACH HIS OWN. And I do believe in 'love at first sight' :wink:I do not know about girls who grew up in Canada, but when I was young we sort of assumed that any guy who thought he loved us after spending only a few dozen hours with us was someone we should avoid at all cost.
I guess that the fact that the time is 'intimate' makes it feel like you know the person more, but frankly, bed time is the worst time to learn about another person.
So I guess to me saying you love someone without having spent a lot of time with them is foolish and creepy.
Well maybe just inexperienced and juvenile but still creepy. And I am not commenting on you since I do not know how much time you spent together
Falling for a SP / SP falling for a client.
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I found that in dealing with an SP in a relationship it was difficult for her to see the outside of the business world. She felt that the industry was now the norm. She seemed to fail to see the sensitivities that exist in a man/women relationship in a normal light. While I had no problem with her job she seemed to push the envelope of SPing and this created problems.
One thing to note. 99% of SPs will not date a client. That said they might date you if you've never purchased time with them as was my case.
One thing to note. 99% of SPs will not date a client. That said they might date you if you've never purchased time with them as was my case.
to my understanding of a sp client relationship, i can only deem it a "relationship" once she stops taking money for her time. Because that shows shes also investing her time into seeing you. If you take into account of how you met her/ why shes there in the first place, it would make a lot of sense. just my 2 cents
You're right...if she always charges you her rate for intimacy, it can only be a "relationship" until what she's really waiting for comes her way and Mr. Right walks through the door and pulls the rug out from under her. Only fools would fall for a paying "relationship".
What makes you so sure that paying always involves a bright line test like a an exchange of cash?
Working girls are just as aware of the issue as guys. Both will prob go out of their way to avoid any semblance of pay for play.
But, at the end of the day, habits, life views and attitudes are hard to hide...
Working girls are just as aware of the issue as guys. Both will prob go out of their way to avoid any semblance of pay for play.
But, at the end of the day, habits, life views and attitudes are hard to hide...
Good points. How many guys think they can go toe to toe with George st Pierre? In the same way, these girls are pros. Think about it.
The sp/client relationship turned "real relationship" is the hardest one out there. Even when the SP's feelings are as strong as the client's, What he doesn't realize is that she still needs to work TO MAKE MONEY. It seems to me that when a client falls for an SP (and vice versa), he just expects her to up and quit her job. How is she supposed to pay her bills?? Even with a "legit" part time job or two, and less working time "in the biz", it's nearly impossible to make ends meet, especially when you're a single mom. Even if the SP took no money from her boyfriend, she still needs to work. This is still going to cause strife, especially if he's the jealous type to begin with.
I wonder what the b/f would say if she said " Now that we're in a relationship, I want you to quit your $200/hr job and go find a $20/hr job".
Yes, the nature of the work is different, I get that. It's not a "normal" job. However, I do believe most SPs are able to compartmentalize. The job is the job, the relationship is the relationship.
The bottom line is that the SP still needs to maintain her standard of living. I'm not talking about expensive cars and $500,000 houses. I'm talking about the basic costs of everyday living and supporting children. If the b/f is not ready or able to assist in that department so that she can quit her job, then he shouldn't expect her to quit and he should not give her grief on a daily basis about it.
Just my 2 cents from personal experience.
I wonder what the b/f would say if she said " Now that we're in a relationship, I want you to quit your $200/hr job and go find a $20/hr job".
Yes, the nature of the work is different, I get that. It's not a "normal" job. However, I do believe most SPs are able to compartmentalize. The job is the job, the relationship is the relationship.
The bottom line is that the SP still needs to maintain her standard of living. I'm not talking about expensive cars and $500,000 houses. I'm talking about the basic costs of everyday living and supporting children. If the b/f is not ready or able to assist in that department so that she can quit her job, then he shouldn't expect her to quit and he should not give her grief on a daily basis about it.
Just my 2 cents from personal experience.
Interesting comments. As clients we all have our favorite SP. Sometimes you fall for your SP. Its happened to me. its called a fantasy. The dynamics can change a lot when that is reciprocated. It becomes a relationship. We are all human after all.
My point of view is that SP's have business hours like the rest of us. If she is on the clock - pay. If she is on not on the clock then hang out as friends.
Either ways there is no such thing as a free lunch.
My point of view is that SP's have business hours like the rest of us. If she is on the clock - pay. If she is on not on the clock then hang out as friends.
Either ways there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Then there are those who want the luxuries or lifestyle that they are used to with the money they make as working girls. They may not expect their BF to buy them a Prada bag so they'll need to still work.
Feelings can also range as well degrees of closeness or intimacy. You can also like an SP or certain SPs a lot (& they vice versa with you), and be almost like close friends or FWB, but not in a true, exclusive relationship.
A guy can enjoy such a no strings lifestyle but there are still lonely nights and it's not cheap either but perhaps less expensive than being married.
Well, at least you used the adjective 'most' instead of 'all'.
I'd stop hobbying for certain gals but who have qualities over and above how great they are in the bedroom, but if they need to stay in the industry, I'd love for them to treat me with a second gal of their choice on occasion (as in a 3some - the price for my loyalty I suppose he he), and maybe we'd swing the odd time too to spice things up. I don't think I can be content in the long term with a strictly traditional or vanilla woman, nor do I think I'd want an open-ended relationship either.
Yes, I already know. Not only do they have to be open-minded but also interested in swinging or inviting another woman into the bedroom (i.e., comfortable with duos or group scenes). You discuss these things beforehand if you're serious about a relationship. This is all about rewarding a guy with his loyalty to her.
Also, it's easier for a guy who is older and who is tired of hobbying with a preference for one, exciting woman who's a pleasure to be with in and out of the bedroom.
I just spent the last 20 minutes combing over this thread and opening quotes I wanted to reply to, but the gist is pretty much the same:
We are all people. We meet other people we relate to in the strangest of circumstances. Yes, they can work out. They can also not work out. Yes, escorts fall for clients and yes, clients fall for escorts. It takes a cruel person (not escort, person) to take advantage of that very human flaw. It's true across every profession, and isn't industry-related.
(I posted that it was impossible a few years ago, and I was wrong. It's just really unlikely.)
That having been said... I think everyone does best by bringing their most open-minded, most open-hearted self to the table. Long-term escort-client relationships are real, and very, very rewarding. I've met people about whom I care what their life is like, outside of me. I care about their wives, their children, their personal successes, and how they deal with their failures. It's unlikely (not impossible) that it'll expand to more, but there's so much to explore between two people that to not be your most vulnerable is to do the two of you a disservice. (Double negative, sorry.)
I consider some of my "clients" my close friends. When you spend enough time together it's inevitable; "clicks" happen everywhere.
This openness makes the connection (and sex!) real.
We are all people. We meet other people we relate to in the strangest of circumstances. Yes, they can work out. They can also not work out. Yes, escorts fall for clients and yes, clients fall for escorts. It takes a cruel person (not escort, person) to take advantage of that very human flaw. It's true across every profession, and isn't industry-related.
(I posted that it was impossible a few years ago, and I was wrong. It's just really unlikely.)
That having been said... I think everyone does best by bringing their most open-minded, most open-hearted self to the table. Long-term escort-client relationships are real, and very, very rewarding. I've met people about whom I care what their life is like, outside of me. I care about their wives, their children, their personal successes, and how they deal with their failures. It's unlikely (not impossible) that it'll expand to more, but there's so much to explore between two people that to not be your most vulnerable is to do the two of you a disservice. (Double negative, sorry.)
I consider some of my "clients" my close friends. When you spend enough time together it's inevitable; "clicks" happen everywhere.
This openness makes the connection (and sex!) real.
Ok, boys and girls. One more time.
Lawyers should not date clients.
Teachers should not date students.
Bosses should not date subordinates or superiors.
Doctors should not date patients.
SP's should not date Johns.
Lawyers should not date clients.
Teachers should not date students.
Bosses should not date subordinates or superiors.
Doctors should not date patients.
SP's should not date Johns.
Yet it happens daily, because we are attracted to what cannot be, therefore it creates an endless imbalance in the natural order of things. Who knows, it could be beautiful.
