ruck said:I personally feel escorts charge way too much and it has no reflection on their character . I think it is a stupid argument that if the price is $ 500 or $ 800 in bla bla vla then $ 250 an hour is a good price. Of course women will charge as much as they want as long as some men are willing to pay it. This doesn't mean they are worth it. Why is it that if a man questions rates he is callled cheap by some sps but a women who charges $ 1500 is not called a greedy , unrealistic bitch. I think sps provide a great service and it should be more wildly available. I complain based on the intrinsic value of having sex with someone .Before commenting you would really have to understand applying intrinsic values. In a way I am saddened that some men defend escort rates it only supports greediness. It is not surprising that men who live with escorts would . Let me put it this way , a millionaire would pay $ 200 for a bottle of champagne but a $ 200 bottle of champagne is not worth 5 times a $ 50 bottle and sex with a woman is worth no more than $ 100 -$ 125 per hr . Just because a women wants to only see 2 clients and make more doesn't make her sex worth more.baltimoron said:In LA, the average jumps to $500 and in Manhattan, $800.
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Actually the average rate for the average sp is about 200-300 USD in manhattan. I was just there 5 days ago.
I didn't hobby but I did do some research in case the itch struck me.
As for the higher end sp's, well they are everywhere. Even in Toronto you can find a sp who charges $1500/hr.
Vanessa, you charging $250 is fine. Whatever you want to charge. It all depends on how much business you want.
Escort Discussion- please...
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So, to summarize the opinions of this thread:
- SPs feel distressed from having to deal with discounts
- Guys who ask for a better price are scum
- SPs should charge as much as they want
- the sky is the limit in the US
In my opinion the only thing that could significantly change prices is the legal status. Prices in the US are higher because it is illegal. Prices in most of Europe are lower because the laws are relaxed. Canada is somewhere in the middle.
- SPs feel distressed from having to deal with discounts
- Guys who ask for a better price are scum
- SPs should charge as much as they want
- the sky is the limit in the US
In my opinion the only thing that could significantly change prices is the legal status. Prices in the US are higher because it is illegal. Prices in most of Europe are lower because the laws are relaxed. Canada is somewhere in the middle.
As a matter of fact you are right. I never thought to mention that... everything was bareback.train said:I wasn't hobbying in 1981 but I'm guessing that std's weren't as worrisome ( at least everything could be pretty much cured by penicillin - or was that 1971?) I'm also guessing there is more silicone and less hair.
In those days AIDS was not even heard of yet.
A remedial math lesson is needed by BooBoo: no, a $200 bottle of champagne is not worth 5x a $200 bottle. It is worth 4x.
Similarly, the fact that you think that an act of sex is worth only $125-$150 seems to indicate that you would be most comfortable seeking the lowest cost provider. There are those who are instead looking for the Chateau Petrus of SP's. A 2002 Petrus could be purchased at auction for ~$640 Cn. It is always rare and sought only by those who would appreciate it. But there are enough of those appreciants to keep Petrus the rarity that it is. Those who do not appreciate Petrus would say that it cannot be worth the price. But they only theoretically think that they would not appreciate it because they would never allow themselves the pleasure of a glass or two.
It takes effort to expand one's horizons; that effort can be measured in sweat or in dollars, but the expansion cannot be experienced unless the effort is made. A Petrus of a SP? What an entrancing thought.
Similarly, the fact that you think that an act of sex is worth only $125-$150 seems to indicate that you would be most comfortable seeking the lowest cost provider. There are those who are instead looking for the Chateau Petrus of SP's. A 2002 Petrus could be purchased at auction for ~$640 Cn. It is always rare and sought only by those who would appreciate it. But there are enough of those appreciants to keep Petrus the rarity that it is. Those who do not appreciate Petrus would say that it cannot be worth the price. But they only theoretically think that they would not appreciate it because they would never allow themselves the pleasure of a glass or two.
It takes effort to expand one's horizons; that effort can be measured in sweat or in dollars, but the expansion cannot be experienced unless the effort is made. A Petrus of a SP? What an entrancing thought.
That may be so but SWs back then were not as concerned about condom use as they are today. In fact very few if any required that clients use them. Later when the true nature of the danger became more prevelent then all SWs started using them.Meister said:
Having heard the complaint of many different women on this subject, I thought I would put some thoughts in here. I have not read the entire thread, so if this is repeated I am sorry.
Alot of women have really no problem dealing with the men who email or phone and bitch about the price. It is part of the business and they can deal with that on an individual basis. The main problem I hear from women is how to respond to the men who bitch in reviews about the price. If the lady says, well, anything to the man bitching about the fee in the review, she is a money hungry bitch who is only in this business for the cash. If she doesn't say anything, her name is taken through the mud because once one guy says something about the "high" rate, "they" all jump in. If she ask the review be removed, she is being favoured by the board. It is really a no-win siutation and even more then that a very unfair situation to the lady and the board because you don't happen to have enough to pay that rate.
I want a lexus, but I don't have the money so I drive somnething else. It really is that simple. Why put down the women in her review??? 90% of the time it is a good review and someone else who is not the reviewer has gone up and made some smart ass, "I am not paying that price" type comment.
Tell me if anyone can, what is a woman's worth??? I don't think anyone can put a price tag on the worth of someone else. Not a child overseas, not a man in the south and SP in toronto. Women set the price hopefully that "they" feel they are worth. There are working women who charge from $20-$2000+, so why can't you find one in your cash bracket and be done with it? Why does the women who is out of your price range have to be put down? I guess it makes the man fell better and that is all that matters.....
This is just the opinions that women have shared with me over the last few years, and I can understand where they are coming from.
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Alot of women have really no problem dealing with the men who email or phone and bitch about the price. It is part of the business and they can deal with that on an individual basis. The main problem I hear from women is how to respond to the men who bitch in reviews about the price. If the lady says, well, anything to the man bitching about the fee in the review, she is a money hungry bitch who is only in this business for the cash. If she doesn't say anything, her name is taken through the mud because once one guy says something about the "high" rate, "they" all jump in. If she ask the review be removed, she is being favoured by the board. It is really a no-win siutation and even more then that a very unfair situation to the lady and the board because you don't happen to have enough to pay that rate.
I want a lexus, but I don't have the money so I drive somnething else. It really is that simple. Why put down the women in her review??? 90% of the time it is a good review and someone else who is not the reviewer has gone up and made some smart ass, "I am not paying that price" type comment.
Tell me if anyone can, what is a woman's worth??? I don't think anyone can put a price tag on the worth of someone else. Not a child overseas, not a man in the south and SP in toronto. Women set the price hopefully that "they" feel they are worth. There are working women who charge from $20-$2000+, so why can't you find one in your cash bracket and be done with it? Why does the women who is out of your price range have to be put down? I guess it makes the man fell better and that is all that matters.....
This is just the opinions that women have shared with me over the last few years, and I can understand where they are coming from.
HH
"There are working women who charge from $20-$2000+, so why can't you find one in your cash bracket and be done with it? Why does the women who is out of your price range have to be put down? I guess it makes the man fell better and that is all that matters....."
Well said Happy Hooker. I have yet to see a good reason why a SP should lower her prices.
Well said Happy Hooker. I have yet to see a good reason why a SP should lower her prices.
I agree with most of what is said. Happy Hooker & Frank, you are correct. But it's not as easy as you say. I hate the car analogy, but let's use it again. If I was looking for a Jaguar and someone was trying to sell me a K car, I would question it. But again, I believe comparing a woman to a car is demeaning. If I can afford to pay $2000 for a SP does not mean I want to pay any SP $2000 or that I think any SP is worth $2000. But the best thing in this thread that every man must understand is stating an opinion is one thing. Putting down an SP because of price is anotherfrankcastle said:
Location, confidence, competition, comfort. Just to name a few.frankcastle said:
I hate the car analogy, but let's use it again. If I was looking for a Jaguar and someone was trying to sell me a K car, I would question it.
Exshully I prefer a cigar analogy. Aren't they all enjoyable, from White Owls to Puros? As for price, well...that's just some people talkin' man. I've paid as much as $250 for a lousy lay and as little as $40 for 15 minutes that rocked my world. I dunno...I just have this hinky feeling that it all balances out in the end.
Exshully I prefer a cigar analogy. Aren't they all enjoyable, from White Owls to Puros? As for price, well...that's just some people talkin' man. I've paid as much as $250 for a lousy lay and as little as $40 for 15 minutes that rocked my world. I dunno...I just have this hinky feeling that it all balances out in the end.
I guess the main point is, it is not up to the men here or on other boards to say what a woman's worth is. It is only up to the man to detrimine for himself if it is worth it to him to pay that rate. If more people would understand that, then maybe they would be more respectful in a ladies review about her rates instead of turning a good review into a gold-digging hooker thread. Does that make sense?
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