Escort Discussion- please...

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Vannessa...

One either regards this as a business or not. If it is a business then the price you charge is only too high if it limits how much you earn. There is a price which will create diminishing returns no matter who you are. For Rosanne Barr it may be $12.95 while for Angilina it may $1 million. While you are in control of setting the price only the "consumer" can decide whether he is buying at that price.

Whether it's $150 or $250 or $350 there will always be some who think it's too much and some that think it's a bargain. As it happens the price isn't a huge factor to me - I would rather go high end. Even I , however,have reflected when I saw someone that I thought was either over or underpriced compared to others. It's human nature to draw those conclusions. It is implicit in every "will repeat" decision.

Change your price if you aren't getting enough business. If you are happy with the volume then this type of complaint shouldn't really be an issue. I have to agree with Tboy about the right to set prices and the right to complain.

 

[Meister]

The car analogy may seem a bit crass, but at its heart, it's correct. I'd add only this: Negotiation is for "item" purchases (cars, flea markets, suits (just yesterday I got $60 off a new suit just for asking for the store's online price) and the like-- not for "service" purchases (haircuts, restaurants, escorts). How many people would dare try to negotiate at a restaurant?

I don't think it has anything to do with product or service. It is the amount that is in question. Obviously, nobody would haggle about a haircut, but neither would they haggle about a pair of socks, because they are low price. But, in my business I would certainly haggle for service contracts, accounting fees (negotiated upfront), cleaning services etc... because you are dealing with larger amounts. For the same reason people haggle for cars, houses, furniture etc...

 

[luv4lust]

why be so malicious and hurtful with your comments about what you think their bodies are valued at? It's unfair that a lady sets her rate as she see's fit (it is her body and time after all...and there are plenty of others to choose from), offers a service and then gets put down on a public review board b/c she is over-priced! What do you think that does to a womans self esteem?

answer to your first question
some men have no class!

answer to your second question

Any lady has the right to set her rates as she sees fit. Some men like to book just for the looks IMO this is a mistake and if they have a crappy time it is no ones fault but their own. Other men book for the service and if they do their homework they will most likely have a good time.


answer to your last question

If your self-esteem is hurt over these factors you shouldn't be an escort. Lets face it this biz isn't meant to build self esteem if you think it is you need to shake your head. jmo

I remember a thread on another board asking guys what they thought a good value in an escort experience was....I was like....."Value"....I would rather pay $250-$300 for an good experience than $150 for a crummy one.

bigE Please tell me you are not saying 250 - 300 = a better time. If you are may I please tell you to go to my site and read my reviews, the ones I earned as a 150 hr escort. I hate that men think the higher the rate the better the service it is not always the case.
jmo

My question isn't why the increase. I would ask, why she charged $150 in the first place. An increase like this will get negative feed back, especially when she's established a clientele at that price structure. Let's be honest, I'm sure many women feel that they can see less clients if they can charge more. Why see 5 clients at $150 when you can see $3 at $250? Makes sense to me. While others feel that the can charge what the market bares.

Some women raise their rates to reflect a change in service, looks or maybe a new job less time to escort
jmo

When I sp'd, I charged the lower end of the rate scale, and I honestly think that's what led to me being completely fed up with the whole business. At the lower end of the scale, you attract these moronic "bargain hunters" who talk about what "good value" you are - like somehow my worth as a person is comparable to a Pontiac and not a Porsche, those are cars, for God's sake, we're people! do you guys actually realize there's a difference??? - and in the end I felt like I was knocking myself out giving some fat, old, ugly fuck a good time and getting one of those half-assed "good value" reviews in return. There's no amount of money that could compensate me for that, so I quit. So yes, I'd have to say that from experience, I wholeheartedly support the ladies charging just as much as they can get away with.

I beg to differ I was 150 hr escort for 3 years, and I only had one idiot visit me. If you have this problem you’re not screening your clients.
Ps. I’m glad you gave up escorting good luck with your new life.





When I started this I set my rates to be fair to the men and I still do. In my mind *please don't flame me ladies* I don't think anyone should have to pay out 1/2 of their weekly pay to get laid and have a good time. (JMHO) that being said I wont let anyone haggle me or try to barter. I am firm on my rates if you don't think I’m not worth it you are free to look elsewhere. I don't give second chances you mess up once with me you’re hurting. *Sorry if this sounds mean but life is too short to dwell on petty lil things* I’d rather spend my time having fun.
again this is JMHO

 

[KBear]

I’m not convinced that the complaints and criticisms are coming only from guys on the board. Certainly there are guys who seek attention, and post critical stuff on the ladies hoping for a reaction, but there are many ladies who are quite motivated to take down the competition when they see the opportunity to do so.

Guys seem to be more critical of ladies who post stuff that does not make sense. Then if the lady puts up a fight, and tries to justify her point with more nonsense, the battle is on. These battles can be fun for the guys, although I’m sure the ladies do not see the entertainment value, and feel quite hurt.

Generally, ladies see other ladies as competition, and can get quite vindictive and bitter when they see other ladies getting the guys attention, and making money. The ladies take it personally. It would be tough for the ladies who are not busy, for whatever reason, to just sit there and watch some other ladies get attention without speaking out.

Since the post was made using janda’s price points, I would assume that this post was motivated by what was said in Janda’s price change post. Janda was prepared for the criticism, and prepared to hear from some guys who are not happy with her new price point. There were a few guys who posted their disappointed with her new prices, but there were very few who posted anything derogatory about her new prices. It was all expected, and the criticisms were unfortunate as she would like to please everyone, but they were not a problem.

I would have to ask why the ladies care what the guys think about their price point. After all the ladies will know soon enough if their prices are right based on the business they are getting, and this is the only factor that really matters. The ladies can never expect that the guys will be excited about higher prices, and the guys may even bitch some, but that is life.

 

[luv4lust]

then there are the women who make male handles just to attack the competition

 

[Malibook]

If your self-esteem is hurt over these factors you shouldn't be an escort. Lets face it this biz isn't meant to build self esteem if you think it is you need to shake your head. jmo

Why would anybody care if some guys whine about high prices?

Simply consider the source which is someone you don't know or respect.

These guys are whining idiots so what does that say about someone who gives a shit about such opinions?

 

[Esco!]

Mini-V, you are simply priceless

 

[Vancouver Femme Fatale]

Men hobby; tire-kickers whine. I see men, not those who's idea of getting things off to a good start consists of bitching and moaning like somebody's senile ol' Grampy out of suppositories.

Works as a great screening device

Why would anybody care if some guys whine about high prices?

Why does anyone care if somebody cuts them off in traffic?

Because it's annoying. Not the end of the world. Obviously. But annoying, as are a million other things that should not affect our Buddha-like serenity and yet, strangely, still do.

 

[tboy]

I wonder why it is said that should someone comment on an sp's price schedule it is called 'whining'?

Afterall VFF: this is an ESCORT review board, and as hobbyists, we have a right to comment on any aspect of this industry....I looked through the posts regarding recent price increases/decreases/etc and didn't really see anyone "whining"....

Anyhow, ladies, don't even TRY to tell me you've never commented/whined on the price of: makeup, lipstick, pantyhose, dresses, skirts, SHOES.....Complaining about prices is not a male dominated practice....

BTW, if anyone wants to whine about something, on Highway 11 south of Huntsville the price of gas was 99.9 cents a litre....now that's something to whine about!

 

[RemyMartin]

Who is whining here?
I think is the one who started this thread, she is whining about people complaining her prices.

 

[Vancouver Femme Fatale]

I wonder why it is said that should someone comment on an sp's price schedule it is called 'whining'?

Sorry, I should clarify this; I'm referring to when an individual contacts me and the first thing out of his mouth is some pitch for a discount. General commentary on rates is like anything else; if it's done in a respectful manner, it's all good.

Note...last night I had a gent email me through my business site for a "free" date...not a session. When I asked why I would do that, he suggested that it was because "I should get up off my back and have a little fun". When I asked him if he understood why I might object to giving out a freebie, he said, he wasn't asking for a freebie, just trying to be nice, and that I should "lighten up".

I asked how asking me to do something offered for payment on a business site without charge was not a "freebie".

Then I got "Lighten up, bitch".

 

[baltimoron]

Par for the course

There are weirdos and pranksters everywhere...

Some of them are pretty crafty. They know that being polite will get them the furthest. So they play nice until the very end, and then do the prank.

I used to work at a call center. No end to the nutcases calling in and the clever extent of their pranks.

 

[David Beckham 23]

And I thought I had an ego.

 

[ruck]

In LA, the average jumps to $500 and in Manhattan, $800.
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Actually the average rate for the average sp is about 200-300 USD in manhattan. I was just there 5 days ago.
I didn't hobby but I did do some research in case the itch struck me.
As for the higher end sp's, well they are everywhere. Even in Toronto you can find a sp who charges $1500/hr.

Vanessa, you charging $250 is fine. Whatever you want to charge. It all depends on how much business you want. If you feel you should charge $250 who is to say you are not worth it. As you said, it is your body.
Cheap guys who can't afford $250 will always be cheap and will always try to haggle. It's their nature to do such things. Don't worry too much about it and just try to ignor it.
Peace.

 

[frankcastle]

It's good to hear others with the same view.

If its too expensive then go somewhere else.

 

[baltimoron]

Actually the average rate for the average sp is about 200-300 USD in manhattan. I was just there 5 days ago.

Oh. I guess I was only looking at the porn star/model agencies in NYC, of which there are quite a few. Those charge a lot!

 

[nautilus]

As I continually read complaints here regarding prices (not service), one thing is apparent. This hobby is not something all people can afford. Thats life. Up to a few years ago I could not afford to hobby as I do today. So I did not hobby. I can't afford $1500 escorts, so I don't complain about them. I can afford $200-$300 if I choose, so I "shop" in that price range.
I can't even imagine trying to negotiate with someone who I am looking to be intimate with during the next hour. So I don't.
I retain the right not to see them again if they don't live up to my expectations. That for me is far more "powerful" than negotiating for intimacy.
JMHO

 

[Vancouver Femme Fatale]

In a city that shall remain nameless, the boycott-anybody-asking-for-more-than-$200-for-an-hour club actually pushed rates up.

Why?

Because the ladies realized a sure-fire way to avoid ever having to see these obnoxious assclowns was to put their rates up to $250.

Oops...

 

[BiggieE]

answer to your first question
some men have no class!

answer to your second question

Any lady has the right to set her rates as she sees fit. Some men like to book just for the looks IMO this is a mistake and if they have a crappy time it is no ones fault but their own. Other men book for the service and if they do their homework they will most likely have a good time.


answer to your last question

If your self-esteem is hurt over these factors you shouldn't be an escort. Lets face it this biz isn't meant to build self esteem if you think it is you need to shake your head. jmo



bigE Please tell me you are not saying 250 - 300 = a better time. If you are may I please tell you to go to my site and read my reviews, the ones I earned as a 150 hr escort. I hate that men think the higher the rate the better the service it is not always the case.
jmo



Some women raise their rates to reflect a change in service, looks or maybe a new job less time to escort
jmo





I beg to differ I was 150 hr escort for 3 years, and I only had one idiot visit me. If you have this problem you’re not screening your clients.
Ps. I’m glad you gave up escorting good luck with your new life.





When I started this I set my rates to be fair to the men and I still do. In my mind *please don't flame me ladies* I don't think anyone should have to pay out 1/2 of their weekly pay to get laid and have a good time. (JMHO) that being said I wont let anyone haggle me or try to barter. I am firm on my rates if you don't think I’m not worth it you are free to look elsewhere. I don't give second chances you mess up once with me you’re hurting. *Sorry if this sounds mean but life is too short to dwell on petty lil things* I’d rather spend my time having fun.
again this is JMHO

I was'nt saying anything like that....I saw a lady saturday nite in Niagara Falls who is at $170/hr, and she has become legendary for incredible experiences. That being said, it seems like I do see more reviews here of ladies from the magazines in the $80- $150, where the reviewer had a less that stellar Experience. These kinda of reviews make me tend to steer clear of those types of ads.I spent aboput a month on the boards reading reviews and going into the chat rooms before I ever got around to seeing anyone, and when I did, I was very impressed with what I got from my first escort experience for $180/hr. This lady has been my measuring standard ever since. I've seen some good escorts for $170/hr, and some not so good ones for $250. My 2 favorites are right at $250/hr, so I guess I've found what works for me.......

 

[Alexis69]

In a city that shall remain nameless, the boycott-anybody-asking-for-more-than-$200-for-an-hour club actually pushed rates up.

Why?

Because the ladies realized a sure-fire way to avoid ever having to see these obnoxious assclowns was to put their rates up to $250.

Oops...

knows the truth is out there lmao