End the Lockdown

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And this is what is happening in Canada and the U.S. as well, with no vaccine.

BTW, that is an impressive list of posters that malibuk is afraid to debate with.
I know that malibuk is afraid of some of us so he might not be able to see this, but is there a source/link for this "letter"?
Malibuk his signature is just for show, it’s his way to feel special and pretend he has people on ignore but he’ll directly or indirectly respond to people’s posts, if not in this thread in other threads.

As for links he doesn’t provide links to majority of the copy and paste posts he makes anymore, since I called him out for posting false and misleading right wing but bar sources over and over, it all started with a false video from a bullshit artist and the looney tune Steve Deace and the spread of “Sweden success” propaganda.
Malibuk is hard at work spreading “Sweden success/open businesses now” nonsense every time he posts, he’ll even tell you data and facts do not matter in the fight against the Coronavirus just in an attempt to spin the narrative and support his views.

Surprise surprise this article is from fake fox & friends.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/do...lth-effects-of-continued-coronavirus-shutdown
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network

Its prime time political talk shows have a conservative perspective,[13][14][15] and the channel regularly features pro-Donald Trump stories.[13][16] The channel described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.[17] Trump has repeatedly promoted the network.[5] The channel has been noted for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.

There you go but I know, Wikipedia FAKENEWS ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE YEAH, where's the hydroxychloroquine and my cheeseburger????
https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2018/10/wikipedia-the-george-soros-connection/

i don't trust sources funded by George Soros who admitted to stealing the properties of Jews in Nazi occupied Hungary
 
Russian Man doing the KGB's work with more false deceptions.

Of all the conspiracy theories spun around the 87-year-old Jewish billionaire George Soros - that he is the “puppet master” of all liberals, that he owns Black Lives Matter, that he is secretly building a new world order - the most demonstrably insane may be the claim that he was a Nazi.

That is: That the 14-year-old boy who had to hide from his own government during the German occupation of Hungary was a war criminal who sent his own people to gas chambers.

This particular strain of anti-Soros paranoia has festered for years on far-right message boards, but it suddenly metastasised to the feeds of Donald Trump Jr and tens of thousands beyond.

It is also claimed that Soros survived the German occupation of Budapest by becoming a Nazi “collaborator.” Fox News pundit Glenn Beck alleged in November 2010, for example, that the 14-year-old Soros “help[ed] the government confiscate the lands of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors,” and, worse (in Beck’s view), was unrepentant about it.

For facts about this hoax there is a detailed fact based details at
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
 

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Russian Man doing the KGB's work with more false deceptions.

Of all the conspiracy theories spun around the 87-year-old Jewish billionaire George Soros - that he is the “puppet master” of all liberals, that he owns Black Lives Matter, that he is secretly building a new world order - the most demonstrably insane may be the claim that he was a Nazi.

That is: That the 14-year-old boy who had to hide from his own government during the German occupation of Hungary was a war criminal who sent his own people to gas chambers.

This particular strain of anti-Soros paranoia has festered for years on far-right message boards, but it suddenly metastasised to the feeds of Donald Trump Jr and tens of thousands beyond.

It is also claimed that Soros survived the German occupation of Budapest by becoming a Nazi “collaborator.” Fox News pundit Glenn Beck alleged in November 2010, for example, that the 14-year-old Soros “help[ed] the government confiscate the lands of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors,” and, worse (in Beck’s view), was unrepentant about it.

For facts about this hoax there is a detailed fact based details at
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/


here on tv he said he had no regrets when he had an "uncle" both he and him stealing properties from Jews and having no regrets


In these excerpts from a buried 60 minutes interview George Soros explains that "I am there to make money. I cannot and do not look at the social consequences of what I do." He also describes his experiences at age 14 with his Jewish identity hidden in Nazi Germany, where he helped to confiscate property from other Jews. In tapes and video here Soros describes this as "one of the happiest times" of his life… "a very happy making exhilarating experience…"
 

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Sometimes, a good rant is all a writer can offer. Bear with me.

Last Friday morning, some 3,500 New Yorkers lined up at a Catholic church in Queens to receive free food hours before it even opened, **according to the New York Police Department. Catholic Charities has reported a 200 percent increase in demand over the past month and a half.

By prolonging the coronavirus shutdown long after its core mission was accomplished, Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio have plunged tens of thousands of New Yorkers into poverty.

It needs to end. Now.

In mid-March, we were told we have to endure a lockdown to ensure that hospitals didn’t get overrun. We did. The hospitals were not overwhelmed. We turned the Javits Center into a hospital. We didn’t need it. We brought in a giant Navy ship to treat New Yorkers. We didn’t need it.

We were told we were moments away from running out of ventilators. We weren’t, and now the United States has built so many, we are giving them away to other countries.

Meanwhile, the Big Apple is **dying. Its streets are empty. The bars and jazz clubs, restaurants and coffeehouses sit barren. Beloved haunts, storied rooms, perfect-slice joints are shuttered, many for good. The sweat equity of countless small-business owners is evaporating. **Instead of getting people back to work providing for their families, our mayor talks about a fantasyland New Deal for the post-coronavirus era.

Open the city. All of it. Right now. Broadway shows, beaches, Yankees games, the schools, the top of the freakin’ Empire State building. Everything. New Yorkers have already learned to socially distance. Businesses can adjust. The elderly and infirm can continue to be isolated.


For two months, we have waited for Cuomo and de Blasio to tell us how this ends. Where is ex-Mayor Michael Bloomberg with his alleged army of tracers that the governor told us was the key to reopening? And why did he hand that responsibility over to Bloomberg, whom **nobody elected anyway?

What the hell is going on? Is anybody in charge of this situation? Or are we just left with the governor and his talking-head brother **arguing on CNN about which of the two Ma loves best? (Who cares?)

In late April, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp defied experts by opening his state. The Atlantic magazine, once a serious publication that should now come with a stick of stale bubblegum, accused him of engaging in “human sacrifice.”

You want to guess what happened? Guess, come on, take a guess. Instead of the predicted spike in deaths, the number of cases of coronavirus and associated deaths declined.

We should always consider that we are led by idiots, as one of my friends likes to remind me. Cuomo and de Blasio have no plan. There is not a single question about when New York can get back to normal to which they have a straight **answer. Not one. They cash their taxpayer paychecks while immiserating the rest of us.

If our elected leaders won’t save the world’s greatest city from a slow death by economic strangulation, then the people of New York must do it themselves. Barbers, tailors, nail **salons, sporting goods stores, movie theaters and others should open their doors — while maintaining social distancing, of course — and dare the state to shut them down.

Our politicians serve by our consent; we don’t run our businesses or live our lives by their consent. The suggestion to the contrary is an **affront to Americanism.

It has been a long time since this country, let alone this city, really had to deal with the prospect of mass starvation. This isn’t about the stock market — it’s about parents putting their kids to bed hungry and hoping tomorrow there will be something for them to eat if they get up at 4:30 a.m. and get in line at the food bank.

We did what we were asked. We flattened the freakin’ curve. There is no longer any reasonable justification for the government to deprive us of our livelihoods. And our rights aren’t the government’s to grant or take away. They belong to us — the free grant of nature and the God of nature. We’re Americans. More than that: New Yorkers, goddammit.

David Marcus is The Federalist’s New York correspondent. Twitter: @BlueBoxDave

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/end-new-york-citys-lockdown-now/
 

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There is a lag between the "opening up" and the spike in cases, then a lag between cases and a spike in deaths a week or two after that. Also some states now suppressing information on the number of cases (e.g., Florida). Montgomery Alabama now out of ICU beds.

I'm hoping this gets milder and not many die. I'm hoping to get back to normal asap. But valid information is essential, but too many bad actors now mucking that up.

Open up business then lie your arses off about the implications for health may be a strategy, but its a third world petty dictator style of an approach unworthy of 21st century science or democracy.

Come out and say "We gotta open up, and unfortunately 100,000 (or whatever the epidemiological models suggest) are going to have to die, particularly if you are old, or fat, or diabetic.". Own it.
 

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Coronavirus: Chile protesters clash with police over lockdown

Protesters and police have clashed on the outskirts of the Chilean capital Santiago amid tension over food shortages during lockdown.

Local television showed police using tear gas and water cannon to quell unrest on the streets of El Bosque, where poverty is high.

President Sebastián Piñera, in a televised address after the protests, pledged to get food to those in need.

Chile has more than 46,000 cases of Covid-19 so far, with 478 deaths.

A recent surge in cases prompted the national capital to go under a strict and total lockdown this weekend.

In a separate development on Monday, dozens of members of Chile's senate and two government ministers went into preventative isolation following recent contact with infected colleagues.

Why were there protests?

Groups of protesters were seen throwing stones and setting fires in parts of the El Bosque neighbourhood.

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'Writing is on the wall' in downtown Santiago

District mayor Sadi Melo told local radio it was facing a "very complex situation" because of "hunger and lack of work".

In a statement, local officials said they had distributed about 2,000 aid packages but warned the government they could not meet demand.

President Piñera later pledged his government would provide 2.5 million baskets of food and other essentials over the next week or so.

"We will prioritise the most vulnerable families," he said, describing the plan as "historic".

Following the announcement, the governor of the Santiago Metropolitan Region, Felipe Guevara, tweeted (in Spanish) to encourage residents to follow the rules and stay at home for their own safety.

"I understand the deep anguish of millions of Chileans, thousands are starving," he wrote, whilst also dismissing controversy over comments he made about the protests on television.

Unrest across Latin America

By Candace Piette, BBC World Service Latin America editor

The Santiago protest is part of a growing pattern of resistance to the lockdowns all over Latin America.

In Brazil, hundreds of people from Sao Paulo's largest favela marched to the state governor's palace demanding more support.

In Colombia people have been hanging red cloths outside their homes when they are hungry.

And in El Salvador, people have been banging pots to protest against the lockdown.

Latin American governments are struggling with how to keep their large poor populations in lockdown with few financial resources and weak social systems.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52717402
 

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I think in all these arguments people forget the exponential nature of infection and death when this virus is not slowed down by distancing and all those other things every country has done when the virus started to get going. And that math was obvious and undeniable when the infections got going before any significant measures were being taken...or before they started to have an impact.

Infections, deaths...all those things were doubling every few days...anywhere from 4 to 10 or 12 days... and at that rate we would have had millions of deaths by now if nothing had been done. That was the curve that the whole world was looking at...and acted on.

So, yes, to one degree or another we flattened that curve. But nothing to stop us from going back there if we let it totally go again. We're not doing that...and the US is not doing that either, although parts might be closer to it, time will tell.

So if you want to compare it to a flu, compare it to the Kansas flu (also known as the Spanish flu) that killed around 50 million out of a world population of around 1.8 billion. This one might not be that bad if left totally unchecked (2.7% of world population), but it's hard to find credible numbers that translate to less than .8% on this one.

Anyway...what is it worth to save a few million lives in terms of economic pain? Every country in the world virtually has come to the same conclusion on that question. It's worth doing what we are trying to do.
 

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Politics of snitching: Dems more likely than Republicans to report neighbors during pandemic

Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to say they'd report neighbors for holding a social gathering in violation of coronavirus stay-at-home orders, according to a new Just the News Daily Poll with Scott Rasmussen.

"There is a huge partisan difference," Rasmussen said. "By a 44% to 31% margin, a plurality of Democrats would turn in their neighbors. By a 60% to 25% margin, Republicans would not. Independents are evenly divided. Other data I’ve released shows that a plurality of Republicans now believe the worst of the pandemic is behind us. Democrats strongly disagree."

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...ubs-report-neighbors-hosting-friends-breaking
 

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Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to say they'd report neighbors for holding a social gathering in violation of coronavirus stay-at-home orders, according to a new Just the News Daily Poll with Scott Rasmussen.]
Once again, the left-leaners display more common sense in taking the threat of non-compliance seriously.
 

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Once again, the left-leaners display more common sense in taking the threat of non-compliance seriously.
shutting down the economy based on flawed data from imperial economy which is leading to rising suicides, drug use, domestic and child abuse, destroyed businesses is not commen sense. leftists support the lock downs because they need big govt to live on and survive on.
 

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shutting down the economy based on flawed data from imperial economy which is leading to rising suicides, drug use, domestic and child abuse, destroyed businesses is not commen sense. leftists support the lock downs because they need big govt to live on and survive on.
What do suicides have to do with which party a neighbour belongs to?
 

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Keep cherry-picking , keep grasping at straws instead of being a man and proving us all wrong by licking a handrail at a Covid clinic. You're like that person at a restaurant looking at the food and not wanting to try it because in your mind it will taste horrible. Taste it then all can say, at least he tasted it and can speak from experience. The same goes with the virus, if you actually beat it, you can make the claims and some of us may change our mind and label you as the Covid19 expert instead of the _________, I'll be nice and leave that blank. LOL
 

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Keep cherry-picking , keep grasping at straws instead of being a man and proving us all wrong by licking a handrail at a Covid clinic. You're like that person at a restaurant looking at the food and not wanting to try it because in your mind it will taste horrible. Taste it then all can say, at least he tasted it and can speak from experience. The same goes with the virus, if you actually beat it, you can make the claims and some of us may change our mind and label you as the Covid19 expert instead of the _________, I'll be nice and leave that blank. LOL
typical response from somebody(a covid sheep who lives in fear) who can't be bothered to read the news reports showing the lockdowns are based on false computer coding at imperial college
 
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