End the Lockdown

[G.D. Gentleman]

I've already answered this question of yours in the previous post (and have posted numerous times about previously in numerous threads which you've read) you can read my previous post in this thread and if you still do not understand what my views are I'll clarify it for you with a simple Yes or No to your question.
As for my family and friends businesses you are right they are probably 100 or so and their opinions is a lot more valuable than yours.

Like I said the only reason you don't like my posts is because I showed your posts for what they are which is false and misleading information. But that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when you've gone to lengths to post links from propaganda article and false websites multiple times such as the video and the other link you posted numerous times from uncoverdc.com



When you say on behalf of all other readers you actually refer to the "open businesses ASAP" crowd, but like I've said before your views or questions are yours and not what all others views are, so asking questions on "behalf of all the readers" is quite presumptuous, and if you clearly read my previous post about the decline you would see the answer but again if you can't understand my previous response and need clarification on this I can provide you with a response. But first try to read and understand my response.

So what you're saying is you cannot offer up a suggestion of how long you think the lockdowns should last in Ontario and will write out long worthless posts like this to dance around it. Got it.

You suggest trends you are waiting to see and we all hear the same from the government. Figured you might actually draw a line in the sand and give an estimate as you are so educated on this matter - but clearly you are too chicken to do so.

I could care less what you think of my opinion - oh! my feelings are so hurt! Hahahaha...fuck that's funny.

Initially you were sharing some good information and insights that were appreciated, now your posts are just attacks on other members opinion about lockdowns - with the approach of agree with me or I will drown the thread with my long winded (and I thought I wrote a lot, Jesus) replies.

And of course your hard on for having others agree with your early judgement on Sweden - otherwise why would you keep posting about it?

And now...here comes your next long winded attack reply to this post in 3....2....1....

 

[Smallcock]

There It Is: CDC Equates Coronavirus Hospitalizations to Seasonal Flu and Finally Admits It’s MUCH LESS Dangerous for Children

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

When people are gripped by fear and they believe they're in a fight for their lives, they become irrational. It'll take a month or more for this to sink in, depending on how much further the media milks the panic button for sponsor dollars.

 

[doggystyle99]

So what you're saying is you cannot offer up a suggestion of how long you think the lockdowns should last in Ontario and will write out long worthless posts like this to dance around it. Got it.

You suggest trends you are waiting to see and we all hear the same from the government. Figured you might actually draw a line in the sand and give an estimate as you are so educated on this matter - but clearly you are too chicken to do so.

I could care less what you think of my opinion - oh! my feelings are so hurt! Hahahaha...fuck that's funny.

Initially you were sharing some good information and insights that were appreciated, now your posts are just attacks on other members opinion about lockdowns - with the approach of agree with me or I will drown the thread with my long winded (and I thought I wrote a lot, Jesus) replies.

And of course your hard on for having others agree with your early judgement on Sweden - otherwise why would you keep posting about it?

And now...here comes your next long winded attack reply to this post in 3....2....1....

What I clearly stated is I've already answered this question numerous times before and you can read and understand it, if you're having issues understanding my post let me know and I will clairfy the answer with a yes or so it's crystal clear for you.

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

What I clearly stated is I've already answered this question numerous times before and you can read and understand it, if you're having issues understanding my post let me know and I will clairfy the answer with a yes or so it's crystal clear for you.

Perhaps if I rework the question you might answer it.

We haven't seen in Ontario the required 14 day trend set out to be met in the guidelines yet, I believe that you at least will agree with?

If you were to estimate, how much longer would Ontario need to go in lockdown before they reach this 14 day trend?

Based on what *little* I know according to you, I still would estimate 4-8 more weeks, perhaps as long as 12 weeks. But what do I know right? Again, just looking for an estimate.

**Qualifier note - I'm not in the 'open early camp'. I could care less how long we are locked down as I have adjusted well to it and while my workload is less than optimal right now I am working from remote thankfully for the foreseeable future. About the only thing I would be sadden by missing out on this summer would be the chance to go camping as I hoped but there is always next year.

 

[basketcase]

Ontario had another 511 new known cases yesterday.

After all this time testing, they have only tested 2% of the population.
This is a totally insignificant sample size, especially over such a long period of time.

Plus they are focusing on those who are most likely to be sick.
This is a flawed sampling methodology and we may never see 14 days of declines.
They need to have broad diverse randomized testing.
They need to do comprehensive anti-body testing.

This lockdown has already gone on for several incubation periods so the effects have long been realized and it doesn`t make sense to think we should continually see better results from the exact same measures.
It`s possible that these measures were sufficient or not enough and more will need to be done.
It is time to find out.
If we wait until we have all the answers, the economic depression will kill way more than this virus ever could.

So you admit we don't know the full extent of infections and your conclusion is we should stop all closure measures?

 

[kherg007]

So you admit we don't know the full extent of infections and your conclusion is we should stop all closure measures?

It's the same inferential error seen in most ideologically motivated argument: If i can identify any flaw, no matter how minor, if YOUR argument, then MY argument is correct. The error is I have not provided evidence in favour of my theory. Its like the anti- evolution crowd assumes if you can't find an intermediate form between two related species, then creationism must be correct.

 

[doggystyle99]

Perhaps if I rework the question you might answer it.

We haven't seen in Ontario the required 14 day trend set out to be met in the guidelines yet, I believe that you at least will agree with?

If you were to estimate, how much longer would Ontario need to go in lockdown before they reach this 14 day trend?

Based on what *little* I know according to you, I still would estimate 4-8 more weeks, perhaps as long as 12 weeks. But what do I know right? Again, just looking for an estimate.

**Qualifier note - I'm not in the 'open early camp'. I could care less how long we are locked down as I have adjusted well to it and while my workload is less than optimal right now I am working from remote thankfully for the foreseeable future. About the only thing I would be sadden by missing out on this summer would be the chance to go camping as I hoped but there is always next year.

Since you clearly didn't want to search, read or understand and still need clarification here is the answer to your question. I've always said with strict adherence to the isolation rules we should see easing off the restrictions by June.

 

[Smallcock]

What makes June special?

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

Since you clearly didn't want to search, read or understand and still need clarification here is the answer to your question. I've always said with strict adherence to the isolation rules we should see easing off the restrictions by June.

Yes I have seen you post that likely situation we are on track for, which I frankly took as you stating what we are all seeing at least currently out of the government.

The doom and gloom you spout all over the threads gives the impression that a proper lockdown, economy impact aside, would be months or longer to reach the goals you keep repeating - just wanted to see what that actual number was in your head if you were willing to share it.

 

[doggystyle99]

Yes I have seen you post that likely situation we are on track for, which I frankly took as you stating what we are all seeing at least currently out of the government.

The doom and gloom you spout all over the threads gives the impression that a proper lockdown, economy impact aside, would be months or longer to reach the goals you keep repeating - just wanted to see what that actual number was in your head if you were willing to share it.

I've always credited our government for the job they are doing in the fight against the Coronavirus where credit is due, and never posted or hinted it will take months or longer, it's your reading comprehension that fails you since you let your feelings get in the way of understanding what you're reading. It's on you how to interpret what peoples posts are, or what the facts and data you're reading means.
But it's really not surprising to me one bit you misunderstand posts, since you can't even see or understand the articles or videos you share have so much false or misleading information in them but yet you still share such misinformed videos and articles and even try to defend their views.

 

[canada-man]

 

[bver_hunter]

 

[surferboy]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...eless/ar-BB13KKXm?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout

Good luck with the 14 day trend...stop the nonsense & thinking about numbers & get our economy slowly moving. Ffs 90% of the God D*mn country has miniscule numbers, get those people open...monitor it & it least try to get this train a moving again. It's getting ridiculous people

 

[canada-man]

Dr Fauci gave 3.7 million dollars to the wuhan lab

and predicted the flu2020 virus back in 2017

 

[canada-man]

 

[canada-man]

covid19 is not about public health. this man in ventura county, California wants to remove people from their homes if tested positive for flu2020

 

[canada-man]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-carpay-albertas-bill-10-is-an-affront-to-the-rule-of-law

Without review or approval of the legislature, a minister can now create a new order requiring people to install tracking devices on their cellphones, and requiring them to register their phones with the government. Without any oversight, a minister can create an exclusive list of people who are legally permitted to go outside, or legally authorized to drive a vehicle, and impose a $1,000 fine on those who walk outside or drive “illegally” because they are not on the list. The health minister could unilaterally declare that all sick people must be forcibly removed from their homes, as the World Health Organization has suggested. And an order could be issued for mass vaccination, without any discussion or debate in the legislature.

 

[bver_hunter]

Dr Fauci gave 3.7 million dollars to the wuhan lab

and predicted the flu2020 virus back in 2017

Great prediction by Dr Fauci!!

 

[Valcazar]

Great prediction by Dr Fauci!!

Meh.
Laurie Garrett wroteThe Coming Plague in the mid-90s.

 

[kherg007]

Anyone who knows anything about history or biology knew it was a matter of when, not if, we would have a pandemic. If fact in med schools in the late 80s early 90s any professor would have been surprised - given international travel - we didn't have one sooner.