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Emotions - 1 step further - getting duped

jost

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Oogabooga said:
There was another dancer who tried to do this - but was way too flaky to pull it off. Cute kid, another drop-dead gorgeous one - but not the brightest bulb in the chandelier (she's a daytime reg at Barbarella's).

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just curious........are you talking about Jenny?
 

Oogabooga

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Yep. She finally admitted that she does this regularily once I called her bluff - unlike the blonde @ the Den who denies it venomously! LOL! The Den one is a real 'treat'. She's sucked many a man dry of mucho denero (I know so from pm's I've gotten about her in another forum).

Jenny explained that strippers need to do this to get 'regular' customer's interest going. It's dishonest, yeah, but there you go.

The only way it'd be worth it is if you got mileage - but with these really good-looking ones - that's rarely the case.

Jenny's trick is a li'l peck on the mouth, then says "I never do that".
 

Oogabooga

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While those last stories were great, and similar things happen to guys everywhere, this thread is for the other end of the spectrum - those who've been burned in some way or another by the Jennys and Taylors out there, not "Dear Penthouse". ;)
 

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Several years ago I was in TO at a convention in a downtown hotel. I went to an MP that was in the downtown area. When the MPA found out about the convention and my occupation she said she had studied in and wanted to work in that field. To make a long story short she spent three nights with me in the hotel room in exchange for me registering her for the convention and giving her the opportunity to network there.
I'd love to run into her again.
 

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I was a moderator on this board for about a year, and I left for personal reasons, but was told by a friend about this post--"Being Duped" Guys trust me when I say this --BE CAREFULL--The one you trust the most will be the one who will Dupe ( I have stronger words) you and to the tune of many dollars.
Things like--my brother used me as a co signer--has run up serious bills and now I have to pay them off --Can you help? Another one--I owe income tax three thousand dollars--can you help? Guys its all Bull Shit..!! They are using your generosity and although they claim its a loan--they have no intention of paying it back and will use "blackmail tactics" to get you to back down.
Guys it happened to me---Call me stupid---But trust no SP. I wont mention the SP"s name, but if you want to know just ask around. Many know who I am talking about...:p
 

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parang said:
..... Things like--my brother used me as a co signer--has run up serious bills and now I have to pay them off --Can you help? Another one--I owe income tax three thousand dollars--can you help? Guys its all Bull Shit..!! They are using your generosity and although they claim its a loan--they have no intention of paying it back and will use "blackmail tactics" to get you to back down.
Guys it happened to me---Call me stupid---
It happened to me too several times over the last three years and every time I thought I'd be smarter the next time but I never was. However, now I've finally made the break and it feels so good. I've had ridiculous excuses like "My cell phone fell into the toilet and was ruined", "My handbag containing the rent money was stolen", "It's my birthday today", "My $2000 tuition fees are overdue", "I need $3000 to open an escort agency", and I could go on. I've related these stories before so I won't bore you again. And just last week it was "I'll have to declare personal bankruptcy if you don't lend me $2000". However, this time I finally fought back and said get lost and it felt so good. I've been sucked in hook(er), line and sinker several times, and for big money too, mainly because I led a very protected life when I was younger and didn't understand how things work in the real world. $25,000 later (which includes about $12,000 in "loans" to four ladies ) I'm a whole lot wiser .... It seems to me that SC dancers and student escorts are the most devious but it wouldn't be fair to paint everyone with the same brush as there are some very nice genuine ladies out there too.

Sometimes I think the best solution is to just rent a few XXX movies and mix a Manhattan ......
 
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hunter001

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Oogabooga said:
I have a tale of my own about a dancer, but before I tell it... are there any other dudes out there who know this tune?
So you promised a tale of woe?
 

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Tip-Drill said:
I was younger and didn't understand how things work in the real world. $25,000 later (which includes about $12,000 in "loans" to four ladies ) I'm a whole lot wiser .... It seems to me that SC dancers and student escorts are the most devious but it wouldn't be fair to paint everyone with the same brush as there are some very nice genuine ladies out there too.

Sometimes I think the best solution is to just rent a few XXX movies and mix a Manhattan ......
I know it's alot of money to drop... so I hope you don't feel too bad about it. I've invested atleast $10K in the hobby. About $2K that was spent in "loans". I don't regret giving up the money, because they provide me with companionship and helped me at a time I needed something else... still not sure what. Anyway, if you didn't spend it on those women you would have spent it on other women.
 

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showmeDD said:
I know it's alot of money to drop... so I hope you don't feel too bad about it. I've invested atleast $10K in the hobby. About $2K that was spent in "loans". I don't regret giving up the money, because they provide me with companionship and helped me at a time I needed something else... still not sure what. Anyway, if you didn't spend it on those women you would have spent it on other women.
Well, isn't that exactly the point? That extra money could've gone to other women.
 

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Well Oogabooga, I knwo what you are going through to well,
Got hooked on a dancer, Maybe the same one as you...lol.
Anyways without getting into a long story and such, It hurt when I found out hte truth, but she was not very good at hiding things and I was suspecious for a little bit before the situation blew open.
I help her out with a lot of money and brought her stuff. I am not even upset about that. It is only moeny for me and I alwasy make more.
It was the lying, and sneaking around that hurt.
Fucked up thing is if she was open about everything, I would have still helped her out with stuff. That is what I do, I help people.
I still hurt and I still miss her, but life hurts sometimes.
I am big boy and can handle anything life wants to hit me with.
You ever want to dicsuss more detail PM me.
 

Tip-Drill

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knight66 said:
..... I help her out with a lot of money and brought her stuff. I am not even upset about that. It is only money for me and I always make more. It was the lying, and sneaking around that hurt. Fucked up thing is if she was open about everything, I would have still helped her out with stuff. That is what I do, I help people. I still hurt and I still miss her, but life hurts sometimes. I am big boy and can handle anything life wants to hit me with.
Wonderful comments, absolutely wonderful and oh so very true! Yes, it's the LYING and the INGRATITUDE that hurts much more than the financial loss. If only these people would tell the truth.

I was ensnared by a young Haitian dancer at a SC and she couldn't stop lying. She did it well at the beginning but I eventually put two and two together and confronted her with incontravertible evidence .... however, she still kept on lying as that was her nature (but she always did it with the cutest smile!). She always claimed she was a nursing student at Algonquin College but would never show me her student ID card (I must have asked her 50 times to see it). She even went so far as to fake a letter with the Algonquin logo downloaded from the web and had it "signed" by her teacher (i.e., by herself) saying that her tuition fees were long overdue. Her name on that letter was completely different from the name on an official Government card that she eventually showed me a month ago while she was scamming me for another (and the very last) $500. This lady has cost me about $5000 over the last year. I'm a fool, I know, but I have always had a natural tendency to trust people and a desire to help people and it's very difficult to change. However, I have finally seen the light.

The moral of this story is to only give money for "services rendered" and to refuse to loan money on the basis of elaborate and often cleverly concocted "hard-luck" stories. In fact, whenever meeting these ladies it's best to leave your credit and debit cards at home and to only take a minimal amount of cash. I'm not bitter, I'm just extremely disappointed at how one human being can treat another human being who is only trying to help.
 

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I had this type of experience with a young MP last year... It was great for 4 months... We'd spend time watching movies, taking long showers, ect... I thought I found the best thing to happen in years... Then I decided to let her know how i really felt, and the world came crashing down, all of the other ladies at the establishment ignored me, called me names, ect...
It was an extremely painful experience emotionally, and financially. (about $13,000) but it was also the most valuable lesson i have learnt yet - you will not find much sincerety in this industry. Most, not all are in it for them selves and nobody else. Its a nice thought sometimes, but it should be left at that. I do have another I have met since that has done nothing but treat me like a king, and has proven very sincere... This is the first girl I have met with 100% interest in me, not my wallet!
 

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I do have another I have met since that has done nothing but treat me like a king, and has proven very sincere... This is the first girl I have met with 100% interest in me, not my wallet!
Isn't that how it always starts?

Are you 100% sure she isn't insincere?
 

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ncn2004 said:
I do have another I have met since that has done nothing but treat me like a king, and has proven very sincere... This is the first girl I have met with 100% interest in me, not my wallet!
Edifice said:
Isn't that how it always starts? Are you 100% sure she isn't insincere?
Yes, tread very carefully my friend. When the money is flowing freely we all tend to receive the "royal" treatment. Look out for warning signals involving changes in the quality or variety of the services being provided. I have heard the following types of things from more than one lady ..... "I don't do that any more", "You're expecting too much from me", "I'm not really comfortable doing that", "I only do that with my boyfriend", "I did that for you as a special treat, I don't do it all the time", etc. However, maybe this time you really have struck gold and everything will be fine. Good luck!
 
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Oogabooga

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So you promised a tale of woe?
Yes, I did, didn't I. But after reading some of these other posts it seems like small potatoes in comparison. I've dropped hundreds on two ladies in particular; dancers, not SPs or MPs (I don't go to SP's often, and MPs, well, I have a favourite but when she's not diddling me we talk about food, tv shows and the weather).

My 'woe' stories are about having my heart broken twice. Once at Barb's by Jenny, and once by Taylor at the Den.

First Jenny. When I first met her we spent a lot of time chatting. She played the "wow, I think you're fabulous, not like most of the creeps I see in here, etc" and then did the kissing trick in the CR; I was hooked, becase as many here may know - she is an absolute knockout, and so 'sweet'. My frustrations with her; it was all brougt on by things she'd say. From "I want to get to know you better" all the way to describing sexual things she plans on doing with me. So we agreed on making a dinner date. Two days later, I had the reservations made, got dolled up and was ready to show her a great time. When I showed up to get her, she played dumb, then made up some excuse about another dancer being upset about something. I felt like a total fool, and as I had a smoke on the front step, she left and passed me totally avoiding eye contact. The next time I went to Barbs, she pretended to almost cry because she felt so bad, and that I didn't "love her anymore" (I don't ever remember telling her I did, but anyway...) and wanted to make it up to me by doing a duo CR dance with another girl (not for fre, of course). I took the damn dance, Jenny went down on another chick in front of me, and let me tell you, there was something UN-erotic about the whole thing and I haven't been to Barbs since.

Jenny told li'l white lies at first, yes. And part of me should have known better. But I need to say this; it's the DELIBERATE DECEPTION that bugged me.
 

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I think the point that this isn't restricted to sex workers is a valid one.

Case in point, a girl I met in university who was getting married would constantly complain about her boyfriend, act all pouty, and essentially do so to get the men around her to carry her academically. Now, eventually, it would turn into a sexual relationship, so I guess she wasn't just a tease -- but there it was. Once I realized what kind of person she was and what she was doing, I disengaged, but she just moved down the line - getting more blatant, essentially playing the "poor me, my life's too stressful I can't do the work because of it" card and getting other people do either do the work for her, or in at least one case, get an older paper to hand in as her own. Basically, though, it was never a blatant "I'll trade you sex for...", it was always the manipulation, the make you feel sorry for her, the make you feel like you're rescuing her and that it's a real relationship based on real feelings, rather than just a way for her to get what she wanted.

Of course, the lady in question later became a stripper, so maybe my first comment isn't so accurate. I don't know what name she used while peeling, so maybe she's one of the ones that you guys are talking about.
 

Oogabooga

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Well is she blonde, blue eyed, playboy-worthy body and a sweet aura? Could be Jenny! LOL!
 
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Nightwind, was her initials C.D. - a Romanian chick? I got trapped by a similar girl in university who claimed she was depressed. I found myself helping her until I smartened up and realized I was being played. I was dismissed as 'one of those' - a guy who only wants sex. Ironic actually. Initially I liked her for who she was, but in the end realized she was only useful for sex. I guess in the end I was 'one of those'. lol.
 

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Well at least you'r wee-wee had a happy ending.

I wish they were all upfront. "Ya want sex, or this or that? Then dothis, this or that. Or no deal."

Clean and simple. Like the way it should be.
This is why I have way more respect for anyone directly involved in the trade than those sublte ones who manipulate.
 
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No happy ending. I was dismissed by her when I returned her apparent interest, after being pinched and poked and kissed and told what a great guy I was. She played me for a fool by appearing more interested than she actually was, just so that she could get help. When I pressed the issue she turned it around on me and tried to tell me I was 'one of those'. In contrast with Nightwind's experience, she was a true co_cktease.

I should have rephrased this statement, " ... but in the end realized she was only useful for sex." to
" ... but in the end realized a hope of sex was her only use."
 
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