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Sure, crazies driving way too fast and lost control. Just happened to be in an EV and didn't read the owners manual to learn how to manually release the door handles, or were too messed to survive any crash. If it had been in a different vehicle it would have blown up much the same, at that speed. Speed kills every day in the GTA, but if it's an EV it becomes newsworthy. Every day there are many car fires in the GTA, once in a while an EV goes poof.
Thank you Doug Ford.

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Sure, crazies driving way too fast and lost control. Just happened to be in an EV and didn't read the owners manual to learn how to manually release the door handles, or were too messed to survive any crash. If it had been in a different vehicle it would have blown up much the same, at that speed. Speed kills every day in the GTA, but if it's an EV it becomes newsworthy. Every day there are many car fires in the GTA, once in a while an EV goes poof.
Well done, you missed the point completely. Speed is irrelevant. Combustion is the issue. Research Ford Pinto and see how cars that burst into flames on impact are dealt with. Those EV flames are also not normal flames but self-oxidizing. I expect manufacturers to see lawsuits and insurance to get up where it should be ... very expensive.

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Sure, crazies driving way too fast and lost control. Just happened to be in an EV and didn't read the owners manual to learn how to manually release the door handles, or were too messed to survive any crash. If it had been in a different vehicle it would have blown up much the same, at that speed. Speed kills every day in the GTA, but if it's an EV it becomes newsworthy. Every day there are many car fires in the GTA, once in a while an EV goes poof.
Speculation at its finest. And no, it's not every day 4 people die in a fiery car crash.

Report from a witness said one person was pulled from the wreckage and survived. But the fire was so intense that they couldn't go back to rescue the others. The remaining occupants were heard screaming as they burned to death.

Speed and lack of driving ability likely caused the crash but the EV battery fire incinerated them.
 
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Speculation at its finest. And no, it's not every day 4 people die in a fiery car crash.

Report from a witness said one person was pulled from the wreckage and survived. But the fire was so intense that they couldn't go back to rescue the others. The remaining occupants were heard screaming as they burned to death.

Speed and lack of driving ability likely caused the crash but the EV battery fire incinerated them.
Well there's three members who have strong opinions which won't re swayed by evidence or discussion. I've missed the point? My last name is Ford? Of course the fire is intense and most fire departments have gear to deal with it quickly, but not necessarily on every truck that gets the call. The point is they could have escaped by reaching and pulling the manual release as stated in the owners manual. End of story. Good day, eh.
 

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Maybe they only regained consciousness when they felt the burning of their flesh.
The point is while cars can catch on fire after an accident, there is a greater risk of that happening with EV and they burn hotter and faster than ICE.
I like EV but the batteries as they are now are dangerous, maybe when solid states become a practical reality.
 

GameBoy27

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Of all the vehicles you have ridden in as a passenger, how many have you read the owners manual prior to getting in?
Exactly what I was going to say. Plus, if you need to get out through the rear doors of a Tesla in an emergency, like when you've just been involved in a crash, you're basically fucked. Which is likely what happened in this case.

 

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Maybe they only regained consciousness when they felt the burning of their flesh.
The point is while cars can catch on fire after an accident, there is a greater risk of that happening with EV and they burn hotter and faster than ICE.
I like EV but the batteries as they are now are dangerous, maybe when solid states become a practical reality.
On impact, I would assume with an ICE based car, the fuel burns faster and there may be less of it since it could spread anywhere and everywhere once there is impact, it's a fluid.
Batteries on the other hand, I've seen a lithium ion battery for an RC car explode and burn, you are right, it's very fast, it's very intense, it smells nasty and even when we tried to throw soil over it, the smoke went through it like it was nothing, We were standing 6ft away from it and couldn't stand the smell, I don't know how firefighters manage even with all their equipment. So I can't even imagine how something to a scale of 1:1 would be like. No thanks.
 
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GameBoy27

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On impact, I would assume with an ICE based car, the fuel burns faster and there may be less of it since it could spread anywhere and everywhere once there is impact, it's a fluid.
Batteries on the other hand, I've seen a lithium ion battery for an RC car explode and burn, you are right, it's very fast, it's very intense, it smells nasty and even when we tried to throw soil over it, the smoke went through it like it was nothing, We were standing 6ft away from it and couldn't stand the smell, I don't know how firefighters manage even with all their equipment. So I can't even imagine how something to a scale of 1:1 would be like. No thanks.
This is what happens when a small Lithium-ion battery is punctured. Now imagine hundreds of them catching fire in a state of thermal runaway. Water does next to nothing to combat these intense fires.

 
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This is what happens when a small Lithium-ion battery is punctured. Now imagine hundreds of them catching fire in a state of thermal runaway. Water does next to nothing to combat these intense fires.

Yep, that's accurate and it's even more "exciting" in person.
 
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