Electric Vehicle repair costs, insurance and rising costs.
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That diesel generator might be powering the pump or cooling system for whatever is in those storage tanks. There's no way a generator of that size could charge that many EV's at one time. Total misinformation video. Maybe its there to power the lights, as the higher voltage for the superchargers would need a step down transformer, which might be damaged (or possibly stolen?) so they have a generator? Maybe it is there for temporary power to the building, perhaps for construction or maintenance.x.com
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Anything out of context will mean whatever you want it to.
Possible, but it's still 50/50 and the way EVs are, I would not be surprised. Even if it were the case, I guess the whole "it's green" and "no carbon footprint" is just more lies. lol
Geez. I wouldn't want a car or truck that I had to park outside, away from buildings, for fear of fires and explosions. No EV's for me thanks.
Jaguar warns of battery fire risk in older I-Pace EV; owners told to park outside
Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires
ByThe Associated Press
August 29, 2024, 9:11 AM
National headlines from ABC News
DETROIT -- Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires.
The British automaker is recalling I-Pace SUVs from the 2019 model year, but has not yet developed a final remedy.
As an interim fix, dealers will update the battery energy control computer to limit battery charging to 80% of capacity. The company has issued three previous recalls for the same problem, and all of the SUVs will need the new remedy. The previous recalls updated diagnostic software.
The automaker says in documents posted Thursday by U.S. safety regulators that there have been three fires in the U.S. after previous software updates on the vehicles. No injuries were reported.
“Owners who have previously had their vehicle updated with the improved diagnostic software are under the impression that their vehicle is protected from thermal overload which, for 2019 MY (model year) vehicles, may not be the case,” the documents say.
Documents say that the I-Pace batteries were made in Poland by LG Energy Solution, whose products are under investigation by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
The agency opened the probe in April of 2022 after five automakers issued recalls due to possible EV and hybrid battery defects that could cause fires or stalling.
General Motors, Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, Stellantis and Volkswagen have issued recalls since February of 2020, most due to internal battery failures that can increase the risk of fires.
In November of 2020, General Motors began a string of recalls that involved more than 140,000 Chevrolet Bolt EVs from the 2017 through 2022 model years due to the “simultaneous presence of two rare manufacturing defects in the same battery cell.” The defect caused at least 10 fires.
Messages were left Thursday seeking comment from Jaguar and LG Energy Solution.
Jaguar warns of battery fire risk in older I-Pace EV; owners told to park outside
Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires
ByThe Associated Press
August 29, 2024, 9:11 AM
National headlines from ABC News
DETROIT -- Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires.
The British automaker is recalling I-Pace SUVs from the 2019 model year, but has not yet developed a final remedy.
As an interim fix, dealers will update the battery energy control computer to limit battery charging to 80% of capacity. The company has issued three previous recalls for the same problem, and all of the SUVs will need the new remedy. The previous recalls updated diagnostic software.
The automaker says in documents posted Thursday by U.S. safety regulators that there have been three fires in the U.S. after previous software updates on the vehicles. No injuries were reported.
“Owners who have previously had their vehicle updated with the improved diagnostic software are under the impression that their vehicle is protected from thermal overload which, for 2019 MY (model year) vehicles, may not be the case,” the documents say.
Documents say that the I-Pace batteries were made in Poland by LG Energy Solution, whose products are under investigation by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
The agency opened the probe in April of 2022 after five automakers issued recalls due to possible EV and hybrid battery defects that could cause fires or stalling.
General Motors, Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, Stellantis and Volkswagen have issued recalls since February of 2020, most due to internal battery failures that can increase the risk of fires.
In November of 2020, General Motors began a string of recalls that involved more than 140,000 Chevrolet Bolt EVs from the 2017 through 2022 model years due to the “simultaneous presence of two rare manufacturing defects in the same battery cell.” The defect caused at least 10 fires.
Messages were left Thursday seeking comment from Jaguar and LG Energy Solution.
Sure, crazies driving way too fast and lost control. Just happened to be in an EV and didn't read the owners manual to learn how to manually release the door handles, or were too messed to survive any crash. If it had been in a different vehicle it would have blown up much the same, at that speed. Speed kills every day in the GTA, but if it's an EV it becomes newsworthy. Every day there are many car fires in the GTA, once in a while an EV goes poof.
Well done, you missed the point completely. Speed is irrelevant. Combustion is the issue. Research Ford Pinto and see how cars that burst into flames on impact are dealt with. Those EV flames are also not normal flames but self-oxidizing. I expect manufacturers to see lawsuits and insurance to get up where it should be ... very expensive.
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Speculation at its finest. And no, it's not every day 4 people die in a fiery car crash.
Report from a witness said one person was pulled from the wreckage and survived. But the fire was so intense that they couldn't go back to rescue the others. The remaining occupants were heard screaming as they burned to death.
Speed and lack of driving ability likely caused the crash but the EV battery fire incinerated them.
Well there's three members who have strong opinions which won't re swayed by evidence or discussion. I've missed the point? My last name is Ford? Of course the fire is intense and most fire departments have gear to deal with it quickly, but not necessarily on every truck that gets the call. The point is they could have escaped by reaching and pulling the manual release as stated in the owners manual. End of story. Good day, eh.
Maybe they only regained consciousness when they felt the burning of their flesh.
The point is while cars can catch on fire after an accident, there is a greater risk of that happening with EV and they burn hotter and faster than ICE.
I like EV but the batteries as they are now are dangerous, maybe when solid states become a practical reality.
The point is while cars can catch on fire after an accident, there is a greater risk of that happening with EV and they burn hotter and faster than ICE.
I like EV but the batteries as they are now are dangerous, maybe when solid states become a practical reality.
Of all the vehicles you have ridden in as a passenger, how many have you read the owners manual prior to getting in?
Exactly what I was going to say. Plus, if you need to get out through the rear doors of a Tesla in an emergency, like when you've just been involved in a crash, you're basically fucked. Which is likely what happened in this case.
On impact, I would assume with an ICE based car, the fuel burns faster and there may be less of it since it could spread anywhere and everywhere once there is impact, it's a fluid.
Batteries on the other hand, I've seen a lithium ion battery for an RC car explode and burn, you are right, it's very fast, it's very intense, it smells nasty and even when we tried to throw soil over it, the smoke went through it like it was nothing, We were standing 6ft away from it and couldn't stand the smell, I don't know how firefighters manage even with all their equipment. So I can't even imagine how something to a scale of 1:1 would be like. No thanks.
This is what happens when a small Lithium-ion battery is punctured. Now imagine hundreds of them catching fire in a state of thermal runaway. Water does next to nothing to combat these intense fires.
