Electric Vehicle repair costs, insurance and rising costs.

Carvher

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I drive a plug in Hybrid, a 2017 Volt, bought used in 2019.

About 95% of my driving is around town and entirely electric.
Even though the battery is smallish by current standards.
Electric range is 120km in the summer, more like 75 with more headlights, wipers, defrost etc in the winter.

It does my daily drop adult kids to their jobs then on to my workplace commute and home again all on electric.
Home overnight charges, and weekend mid day charges means gas does not get used much.

I got rear ended on the passenger rear side on the highway in 2021.
First insurance report made me think a write off was a a possibility.
In the end though the insurance company put me in a rental and took 7 weeks and $17.5k in repair costs.
Because that was less then their payout value.

The time to repair was mostly sourcing parts as not a lot of (non electric) components for this thing in scrap yards and GM parts train.

Yes, tires are an ongoing cost. Buy overall quite a bit cheaper to drive in my opinion.

I do enjoy changing the engine oil every 3 years, just because it got old.
Engine computer drops 3% off the oil life monitor every month after the first engine run post oil change.
You drive your adult kids to their job?
 

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GM historically does a lot of STUPID things. This is another example of GM myopic thinking.
Biggest GM blunder was taking a Big Oil bribe offer and killing EV1 back in 2000, then selling all GM's EV files/blueprints to TESLA a few years later! This is all on YouTube if you are interested in viewing it.
You may say GM who did all the work on EVs, helped create Tesla.

Ford on the other hand reported booming sales of vehicles and EVs.
 
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GM historically does a lot of STUPID things. This is another example of GM myopic thinking.
Biggest GM blunder was taking a Big Oil bribe offer and killing EV1 back in 2000, then selling all GM's EV files/blueprints to TESLA a few years later! This is all on YouTube if you are interested in viewing it.
You may say GM who did all the work on EVs, helped create Tesla.
Don't say that, you'll break a lot of tesla boys hearts. Elon = Edison 2.0. Chances are he wasn't even part of tesla when they got those files from GM. lol

Ford on the other hand reported booming sales of vehicles and EVs.
A thread about their sales, some good points. Incentives were the key in their sales it seems.
 
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GM historically does a lot of STUPID things. This is another example of GM myopic thinking.
Biggest GM blunder was taking a Big Oil bribe offer and killing EV1 back in 2000, then selling all GM's EV files/blueprints to TESLA a few years later! This is all on
And those stupid Japanese, who the hell wants to drive a Honda?
 

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Setting aside any argument about climate change. When your EV does go wrong, it may be so costly to fix, that you may need to walk away.

Insurance costs are crazy

I’ve heard they’re difficult to sell used.
I can’t verify this.

Driving in Toronto is relatively easy, but what happens when you want to go to the cottage.
Infrastructure is not there.

There is so much change in the industry any infrastructure built today will be obsolete tomorrow. Only government throws good money after bad.

Until there is a smarter solution, I’m avoiding EVs
"but what happens when you want to go to the cottage." How about "what happens if you live in the Country" Where I live there are pretty much zero electrics. The Urban / Rural divide is this Country is wider than you might know.
 

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I read in The Sun the other day that thieves are cutting the EV charging cables overnight and stealing them for the valuable copper content.

This also often damages the charger as well, not to mention the cost of replacing the charging cable.

So many reasons to not buy an EV...
 

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I read in The Sun the other day that thieves are cutting the EV charging cables overnight and stealing them for the valuable copper content.

This also often damages the charger as well, not to mention the cost of replacing the charging cable.

So many reasons to not buy an EV...
I would say car thieves are even crazier in GTA, so should we not own cars at all?
FYI, as of today EVs are still not the target to the car thief rings, EVs are much less likely to be stolen.
Regarding the thief of charging cable, even replacing the whole charger unit would cost only a few hundred, I'm not sure is that a really big money but to me it is still ok. With my fingers cross, I hope my home insurance would also cover the EV charger.
 

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That diesel generator might be powering the pump or cooling system for whatever is in those storage tanks. There's no way a generator of that size could charge that many EV's at one time. Total misinformation video. Maybe its there to power the lights, as the higher voltage for the superchargers would need a step down transformer, which might be damaged (or possibly stolen?) so they have a generator? Maybe it is there for temporary power to the building, perhaps for construction or maintenance.

Anything out of context will mean whatever you want it to.
 

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That diesel generator might be powering the pump or cooling system for whatever is in those storage tanks. There's no way a generator of that size could charge that many EV's at one time. Total misinformation video. Maybe its there to power the lights, as the higher voltage for the superchargers would need a step down transformer, which might be damaged (or possibly stolen?) so they have a generator? Maybe it is there for temporary power to the building, perhaps for construction or maintenance.

Anything out of context will mean whatever you want it to.
Possible, but it's still 50/50 and the way EVs are, I would not be surprised. Even if it were the case, I guess the whole "it's green" and "no carbon footprint" is just more lies. lol
 

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Geez. I wouldn't want a car or truck that I had to park outside, away from buildings, for fear of fires and explosions. No EV's for me thanks.

Jaguar warns of battery fire risk in older I-Pace EV; owners told to park outside
Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires
ByThe Associated Press
August 29, 2024, 9:11 AM

National headlines from ABC News

DETROIT -- Jaguar is telling owners of about 3,000 electric SUVs to park them outdoors and away from structures due to the risk of battery fires.
The British automaker is recalling I-Pace SUVs from the 2019 model year, but has not yet developed a final remedy.
As an interim fix, dealers will update the battery energy control computer to limit battery charging to 80% of capacity. The company has issued three previous recalls for the same problem, and all of the SUVs will need the new remedy. The previous recalls updated diagnostic software.

The automaker says in documents posted Thursday by U.S. safety regulators that there have been three fires in the U.S. after previous software updates on the vehicles. No injuries were reported.
“Owners who have previously had their vehicle updated with the improved diagnostic software are under the impression that their vehicle is protected from thermal overload which, for 2019 MY (model year) vehicles, may not be the case,” the documents say.

Documents say that the I-Pace batteries were made in Poland by LG Energy Solution, whose products are under investigation by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
The agency opened the probe in April of 2022 after five automakers issued recalls due to possible EV and hybrid battery defects that could cause fires or stalling.

General Motors, Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, Stellantis and Volkswagen have issued recalls since February of 2020, most due to internal battery failures that can increase the risk of fires.
In November of 2020, General Motors began a string of recalls that involved more than 140,000 Chevrolet Bolt EVs from the 2017 through 2022 model years due to the “simultaneous presence of two rare manufacturing defects in the same battery cell.” The defect caused at least 10 fires.


Messages were left Thursday seeking comment from Jaguar and LG Energy Solution.
 

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Sure, crazies driving way too fast and lost control. Just happened to be in an EV and didn't read the owners manual to learn how to manually release the door handles, or were too messed to survive any crash. If it had been in a different vehicle it would have blown up much the same, at that speed. Speed kills every day in the GTA, but if it's an EV it becomes newsworthy. Every day there are many car fires in the GTA, once in a while an EV goes poof.
 
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