Electric Vehicle repair costs, insurance and rising costs.

oil&gas

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The affluent among climate change sheeple in Ontario could easily
absorb all the pricey cars to be produced by the 4 new EV plants for the
purpose of virtue-signalling if not for daily commuting. Honda will have
more to worry about competition from cheaper imports from China.
 

HungSowel

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There are 2 market segments that EVs naturally fit into, the high end with real AI driving and the low end like a glorified golf cart. AI driving is still a pipe dream so the only real market is the low end. In the low end BYD will crush everyone, only tariffs can stop it from dominating.

The BYD seagul is ~10k USD or ~14k CAD and it is available for sale now but not in North America. it is cheap enough that you can get an EV and for the few times you need to drive far you rent an ICE vehicle. If you can get 3 years out of it then it would be ok, if you can get 5 or more years out of it then it would be an excellent deal.
 

Mr.lover

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USA needs to steal tech from China now, we once said they were not innovative.. I think we have been proven wrong.




 

Nathan 88

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There’s no doubt that EV’s are going to dominate the market in the coming years.
However, I think I will wait till more of the kinks are worked out, such as battery quality and quicker charging stations.
 

kona

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One thing the owners of electric vehicles don't tell ya is all the issues they're having because they're simply embarrassed. You find out once you join the club.

A friend owns a Tesla Model Y. Once his lease is up, he's done with electrics. Range of electric vehicles during a winter is a joke. It seems that nearly every day owners are gambling whether or not they'll get stranded somewhere. A few times my buddy was stranded and had to Uber home. Add that to the expense list of owning an electric vehicle. Glorified golf carts.
Wow, exaggerate much? I have been driving a MYLR for years and yet to feeling like I am “gambling”. I drive from cottage country every week into the city for work. Over 200km each way and in the summer it takes 36% and winter it takes 42% each way. I can make it into the city and back on one charge in winter if I charge to 100%. I fully expected to have to charge in Barrie, but never needed to yet. Your friend is a moron.
 

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Wow, exaggerate much? I have been driving a MYLR for years and yet to feeling like I am “gambling”. I drive from cottage country every week into the city for work. Over 200km each way and in the summer it takes 36% and winter it takes 42% each way. I can make it into the city and back on one charge in winter if I charge to 100%. I fully expected to have to charge in Barrie, but never needed to yet. Your friend is a moron.
Good to hear from folks who have one instead of the 'i have a friend " which is probably a Facebook "friend". LOL
 

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There’s no doubt that EV’s are going to dominate the market in the coming years.
However, I think I will wait till more of the kinks are worked out, such as battery quality and quicker charging stations.
As long as Big Oil controls/dictates US energy policy quick "battery change stations" that exist and work great in China and some European countries will be blocked. Big Oil and their shills still do all possible to sabotage EVs development. Quick "battery change stations" over there now take 2½ minutes to change batteries. Less time than fueling up your gas tank.
 
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kona

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Good to hear from folks who have one instead of the 'i have a friend " which is probably a Facebook "friend". LOL
My favourite is when people say you cannot take it on road trips Because it would take hours to charge. Ummm…I do it all the time. I usually park at a parking lot downtown financial district where I have a condo to get a free charge and I go to 100%…that will take me to Kingston with 20% left where I would supercharge and grab some Panera Bread for 20 mins. That will give me enough power to drive downtown Montreal (my destination) where I will park in the parking lot right across the street from Sheraton where I can charge for free all night. Total charge time of 20 mins while I eat is very acceptable.
 
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kyleb899

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Tesla sucks, EV vehicles sucks , stupid bum Trudeau pushing for it , they just expensive ugly weights heavy,
Lol only bums likes them 🤣 😂 😅 😆 idoits who love Trudeau lol 😆 🤣 😂 😄 😜
 

Mr.lover

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EVs getting a bad rep for the shortfall in charging time and availability, other than that I would buy one except for the range anxiety and the battery replacement cost after 8yrs is too high.
All other issues are grossly exaggerated by the right winged convoy idiots. Face it the EV will beat any ICE in a race and apparently a tug of war too. I just wish we could get BYD cars here lol. For the moment I would prefer PHEV or hybrid.
 

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My favourite is when people say you cannot take it on road trips Because it would take hours to charge. Ummm…I do it all the time. I usually park at a parking lot downtown financial district where I have a condo to get a free charge and I go to 100%…that will take me to Kingston with 20% left where I would supercharge and grab some Panera Bread for 20 mins. That will give me enough power to drive downtown Montreal (my destination) where I will park in the parking lot right across the street from Sheraton where I can charge for free all night. Total charge time of 20 mins while I eat is very acceptable.
Now matter how much you try to dress it up, EVs are problematic. Let's break down what you wrote, as a proud owner of an EV:

- you MUST make a stop at a place with a fast electric charger while traveling from Toronto to Montreal or else you won't make it to your destination. It's a mandatory stop for at least 20 minutes. I'm guessing this time is likely double or even longer, assuming a charger is readily available.

- you MUST stop at a place with an available charger overnight or else your car will have no juice the next day.

I can drive from GTA to Montreal and back in my ICE vehicle without having to fill up even once. I can crank up A/C in the summer or heat in the winter, have music blasting and wouldn't care about my vehicle running out of juice. EV owners don't have that luxury.
 
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Nathan 88

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As long as Big Oil controls/dictates US energy policy quick "battery change stations" that exist and work great in China and some European countries will be blocked. Big Oil and their shills still do all possible to sabotage EVs development. Quick "battery change stations" over there now take 2½ minutes to change batteries. Less time than fueling up your gas tank.
Wow, that’s amazing. Do you get a full charge in 2 1/2 minutes?
There’s also the issue of batteries that are about five years old having to be replaced and costing a lot of money. I would be hesitant to buy a used EV that was about four or five years old as I’m not sure how much longer the battery would last.
 

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My favourite is when people say you cannot take it on road trips Because it would take hours to charge. Ummm…I do it all the time. I usually park at a parking lot downtown financial district where I have a condo to get a free charge and I go to 100%…that will take me to Kingston with 20% left where I would supercharge and grab some Panera Bread for 20 mins. That will give me enough power to drive downtown Montreal (my destination) where I will park in the parking lot right across the street from Sheraton where I can charge for free all night. Total charge time of 20 mins while I eat is very acceptable.
Assuming of course the charging stations are available and you're not waiting for one and even then, no offense, but that sounds so boring. lol
 
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