Electric Vehicle repair costs, insurance and rising costs.

[Mr.lover]

My friend had a RAV4 hybrid and said he would never buy another hybrid. He had it 4 years and got rid of it and bought a Highlander(non hybrid version).

What was the issue with RAV4 hybrid?
I rather buy a hybrid than go full EV at this point, due to lack of infrastructure.
I think there is alot of disinformation out there about EV, the tires wears out faster, not true, though Tesla will suck you dry for their tires, just get an alternative tires. The only main issue I heard of is insurance will refuse to repair EV, since the repair costs are usually too high, so they payout instead, hence the higher depreciation rate set/influenced by... insurance companies lol.. this mostly applies to Tesla because repairs are mostly done by Tesla.. so fuck Tesla and buy another EV instead.
The china EV are further ahead than Tesla, BYD cars looks amazing. The tik toks on them are crazy, and those videos are done by westerners.

 

[squeezer]

Makes me not want to kill Justin every time I need to fill up although I did have to pay the prick a small amount of luxury tax.

I admit the luxury tax for a new vehicle really burns my ass!

It would be smart to remove the luxury tax from EVs to encourage more folks to buy more EVs.

 

[squeezer]

One thing the owners of electric vehicles don't tell ya is all the issues they're having because they're simply embarrassed. You find out once you join the club.

A friend owns a Tesla Model Y. Once his lease is up, he's done with electrics. Range of electric vehicles during a winter is a joke. It seems that nearly every day owners are gambling whether or not they'll get stranded somewhere. A few times my buddy was stranded and had to Uber home. Add that to the expense list of owning an electric vehicle. Glorified golf carts.

If one strictly does city driving, say up to a few hundred km a day or less it's not a bad thing having an EV as a second vehicle.

 

[bazokajoe]

What was the issue with RAV4 hybrid?
I rather buy a hybrid than go full EV at this point, due to lack of infrastructure.
I think there is alot of disinformation out there about EV, the tires wears out faster, not true, though Tesla will suck you dry for their tires, just get an alternative tires. The only main issue I heard of is insurance will refuse to repair EV, since the repair costs are usually too high, so they payout instead, hence the higher depreciation rate set/influenced by... insurance companies lol.. this mostly applies to Tesla because repairs are mostly done by Tesla.. so fuck Tesla and buy another EV instead.
The china EV are further ahead than Tesla, BYD cars looks amazing. The tik toks on them are crazy, and those videos are done by westerners.

He said the gas savings was very minimal since the vehicle only ran on pure battery power if you were travelling 40km/hr or slower. And no there was nothing wrong with the vehicle. That's that way it was designed.

 

[bazokajoe]

What didn't he like? I have an Outlander PHEV and I love it. I fill up about every 2 weeks now but my daily commute is more than the battery range and I can't charge at the office. Overall, I'm extremely pleased. I am aware that I paid a lot more than I would have for the traditional ICE version but I get the pleasure of deluding myself by thinking I'm helping save the planet.

Asked and answered.

 

[Jubee]

My biggest issue is the fear of waiting a long time to recharge on long trips and the depreciation as new technology renders the old models useless. I'll cave in half way and go Hybrid first.

I wouldn't recommend it at all.

 

[Jubee]

But it's good for the environment, right Elon?

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[jalimon]

Does anyone know anyone who owns a Tesla and his happy with it?

I know 3 persons who bought one and all 3 regret it!

 

[bazokajoe]

Maybe that was the way it worked with his, but I can drive on the highway at 120 without the gas kicking in. Only time the gas 'helps' is if I need to rapidly accelerate. The technology is improving every year.

His was a hybrid, yours is a PHEV. Big difference.

 

[bazokajoe]

This argument that EV owners make "I'm saving on gas" is ridiculous. You're paying thousands of $$$ upfront vs ICE vehicle. How is that Saving???

Suppose some people like to get fcked in the bum and call it a prostate massage. Good for you!

Agree.
Base model F-150(ICE) starts at $46,600
Base model F-150 Lightning starts at $61,395 and only goes 386KM

I can buy a lot of gas with the $14,795 and go alot farther than 386km on a tank.

 

[countrylover]

One thing the owners of electric vehicles don't tell ya is all the issues they're having because they're simply embarrassed. You find out once you join the club.

A friend owns a Tesla Model Y. Once his lease is up, he's done with electrics. Range of electric vehicles during a winter is a joke. It seems that nearly every day owners are gambling whether or not they'll get stranded somewhere. A few times my buddy was stranded and had to Uber home. Add that to the expense list of owning an electric vehicle. Glorified golf carts.

Lol! What a pile of bullshit. I've had no issues whatsoever and my range is fine. I love how it's always a friend that has a problem.

 

[bazokajoe]

PHEV literally stands for Plug in Hybrid Electric Vehicle.

Yeah I know that

 

[countrylover]

Don't act stupid.

Here are some of my so called friend:

I'm talking from personal experience. Do you believe everything on the news? Especially Fox news?

 

[Jubee]

It's green and for the climate, okay. lol
Let's see how long that "temporarily" lasts.

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[Jubee]

The problem with a hybrid is that you have two separate engines to worry about. Fully EV or fully ICE is the only way I’d go. You’ll have better luck finding independent repair shops that will work on EV or ICE but not hybrids. A hybrid is the worst of both worlds, and you are pretty much stuck going to the dealership for maintenance and repairs

Exactly this for hybrids. A friend who is a mechanic said he never touched any hybrids because he didn't want something to happen to the car again only to be blamed because he did a simple service call on it or whatever.
He stays away from hybrids.

 

[bazokajoe]

Are you sure about that? How is it a hybrid if you can't plug it in? Wireless charging?

Are you serious? You don't know the difference between a hybrid and a PHEV do you?

 

[Jubee]

Remember this? lol Not the first time either, meaning the repair cost.
Elon sold a bill of shit. I loved the pitch about having techs coming to your house, blah, blah, blah. So what about now, since there are more sucke, I mean Tesla owners on the road, does that mean a lot longer wait times for tech to arrive and trouble shoot your car?
Like I said, glorified smartphone on wheels.

 

[squeezer]

Lol! What a pile of bullshit. I've had no issues whatsoever and my range is fine. I love how it's always a friend that has a problem.

I have friends who like you have either a hybrid or fully electric and rave about their EVs. Although all have 1 or more gas vehicles, they can go either way when needed.

 

[Jubee]

 

[Jubee]

Not a good look when a dealerships aren't interested in them. Here's an owner of a dealership explaining why.
Some of the comments are good as well.

What ever the government tells you to do ignore them and do the opposite and you won't go far wrong.

It's like buying a car with a shrinking fuel tank.

A friend of mine bought an EV. After five years the battery went kaput. The company quoted him €20k to replace his battery. Also prior to breaking down totally, the range was down to 100 kilometres per charge.