Election prediction

bver_hunter

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oh that is just great!
A PM who needs after school tutoring
If someone like Use by Expiry day Harper with no previous credentials can be PM for almost a decade, the Canadians do believe that Trudeau should emulate that pathetic record.
 

danmand

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no i dont believe it will be all milk and honey with Trudeau....the economy will be sluggish for quite awhile regardless of who is the PM................but for me i just want harper gone..i dont like the way he approaches governing, to say the least...he is a spiteful, meanspirited compassionless human being , who has surrounded himself with truly awful people . like Kenney Polievre, Calandra Oliver, Clement..i could go on and on......in my opinion it will be a giant breath of fresh air from BC to NFLD rushing in after Harper packs up and leaves..
Well put
 

james t kirk

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Great editorial in the Globe and Mail yesterday that sums it up rather perfectly.

The key issue of the election should have been the economy and the financial health of Canadians. On that score, the Conservative Party has a solid record. Hardly perfect but, relatively speaking, better than most. However, the election turned into a contest over something else: a referendum on the government’s meanness, its secretiveness, its centralization of power in the most centralized Prime Minister’s Office in history, its endless quest for ever more obscure wedge issues, and its proclivity for starting culture wars rather than sticking to the knitting of sound economic and fiscal stewardship. It turned this election into a referendum on the one-man show that has become the Harper government

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It is not time for the Conservatives to go. But it is time for Mr. Harper to take his leave. He can look back on parts of his record with pride, but he has undone himself and his party with a narrowness of vision and a meanness of spirit on a host of issues, from voting rights to crime and punishment to respect for science to respect for the courts. The topper has been how this election campaign was sidetracked into an artificial, American-style, culture war over niqabs and “barbaric cultural practices.” The spectacle of a prime minister seemingly willing to say anything, or demonize anyone, in an attempt to get re-elected has demeaned our politics. And while it may have firmed up the old Reform base, it also solidified the Harper Conservative Party as a party of, by and for that base.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...andate-stephen-harper-doesnt/article26842506/



Harper is just a nasty piece of work and he needs to go.

Hoping for a liberal minority so we can see how Justin makes out. I don't want him to get too carried away - especially with new taxes.
 

james t kirk

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What a joke. ************ Poilievre is awesome he calls a spade a shovel. I think he can be a great next leader for the party. Kenney is a bit of dweeb but he is a very competent politician. I've met Clement he's a good guy and again very competent. As is Joe Oliver - I think he's done well in his finance role. There are very few in the Liberal party that have the skills and acumen of these individuals. And nobody in the NDP comes close - they are a band of misfits.

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Clement?

Be serious. The guy was an old fogey 20 years ago. Not to mention what he allowed to happen in Hamilton (Stelco) under his watch.

As to Oliver, he's like 75 years old or something like that. Time to ride out to pasture.
 

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Plus Justin will be the 'Head waiter' for Kathleen Wynne. At least with his dad Pieerre Trudeau you have respect for him when his said no to the provinces and said" PM of Canada job is not a head waiter for the provinces!! Trudeau Sr " quoted you have 10 premiers and the Prime Minister as a kind of head waiter to provinces in this case it would Kathleen Wynn which Justin will be serving to.
 

rhuarc29

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I don't think it's as clear-cut as people seem to think. A lead in the popular vote, even a significant lead, does not guarantee a win. Last I checked, Trudeau and Harper are neck in neck in the seat count predictions.
 

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I don't think it's as clear-cut as people seem to think. A lead in the popular vote, even a significant lead, does not guarantee a win. Last I checked, Trudeau and Harper are neck in neck in the seat count predictions.
If Harper eeks it out the wailing will be hysterical.
 

oldjones

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E e k ! will indeed be the word. Certainly not the older and more traditional word used in these squeakers:

eke: 1.2 Obtain or create, but just barely: Tennessee eked out a 74-73 overtime victory

Origin
Old English ēacian, ēcan (in the sense 'increase'), of Germanic origin; related to Old Norse auka
 

nottyboi

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I think as the Libs build momentum, more NDP voters will defect to the Libs... so they will get stronger. I hope he gets a strong minority but no more. I am comfortable with that.
 

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SkyRider

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oh that is just great!
A PM who needs after school tutoring
When Chretien became PM he sought the wise counsel of Mitchell Sharp.
When Trudeau the Elder became PM he sought the wise counsel of Lester Pearson.

Mitchell Sharp should have been PM but it was a Francophone's turn to be leader of the Liberal Party.
 

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How can you vote? Your are American..a non Canadian citzen
I'm a Canadian citizen, not an American. I live in the US now but I'm not an American. I voted by mail, registered online with Elections Canada, received my ballot by mail, and sent it in a week and a half back or so.

I can still do that another four years, if I don't return to Canada by then I will still be able to vote by showing up in person at an advance poll, which I will make an effort to do.
 

Butler1000

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Many good points brought up here that I think Steve-O got to go.

btw, typical Cons always mislead everyone. Here is one that the Cons keep saying that the Liberal will run a lot of deficits but in fact under the Harper gov't from 2007 until now, we have only 3 small surpluses (13.8B in 07, 9.6B in 08 and small questionable surplus in 2015 of 1.9B). This current gov't ran deficits 6 out of 9 yrs.
The previous Liberal gov't did way better under Chretien and Martin

Link http://www.cbc.ca/news/multimedia/canada-s-deficits-and-surpluses-1963-to-2015-1.3042571

We definitely need changes.
The previous gov't also either froze or cut transfer payments to the provinces. And didn't have a global meltdown to deal with.

The transfers were actually increased back to normal levels under the Conservatives.
 

Frankfooter

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I'm off to vote against Harper, even if it risks bankrupting the country once Larue and his massive taxable income leave the country.
Some risks are worth it.
 

kono

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no i dont believe it will be all milk and honey with Trudeau....the economy will be sluggish for quite awhile regardless of who is the PM................but for me i just want harper gone..i dont like the way he approaches governing, to say the least...he is a spiteful, meanspirited compassionless human being , who has surrounded himself with truly awful people . like Kenney Polievre, Calandra Oliver, Clement..i could go on and on......in my opinion it will be a giant breath of fresh air from BC to NFLD rushing in after Harper packs up and leaves..
Well said but we're going to pay a lot for that change $$$. Especially here in Ontario where Wynne will gain even more power. If the Liberals win I hope it's a minority. Giving any party free reign is never a good thing. You need to represent a broader range of the Canadian electorate. I don't know what the polls said going into the election? I'm guessing it was close to this - 35% for the Libs - 30% Con and 29% NDP. Those are pretty shitty numbers if you think about it. Only 35% are in favor of one party. So basically you'll have over 60% of voters not in favor of this newly elected government. So that 35% is dragging the rest of use with them.
 
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