I find it amazing that Muslims kill 200 commuters in Madrid and the discussion about that act devolves into blaming colonialism, Israel, and Jews for it. I mean, wake up!
Scouser:
Fascism:
Definition: [n] a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
Please explain how Zionism is fascism. Don't bandy about words like racism and fascism when you don't know what you're talking about.
Racism is a bit harder to nail down. The UN, led by the despotic governments of the Arab world, trumpeted how Zionism is racism for many years. In a way, creating a state for Jews to the exclusion of others (not that there aren't Muslims, Christians, Bahai etc. in Israel) does privilege Jews over non-Jews. I'm a Jew, and if I want to to I can immigrate to Israel with none of the barriers that non-Jews might face. I agree that's racism, and it's a trade-off made for the sake of having the Jewish state remain Jewish.
Zionism is the political movement whose adherents believe that Jews need a nation-state of their own in order to be safe and full members of the community of nations. Every other ethnic nation is said to have the right to a state, and although Sikhs, Tibetans, Kurds, and many others are still without states, most would agree that if you see yourselves as a distinct, you should have a state of your own.
The world seems to believe in nationalism. Do Jews not count, do Jews not need or deserve a state?
I have no argument that many Arabs suffered because of the events surrounding the creation of a Jewish state in historical Israel. But that isn't the whole story. Do the Arabs have no responsibility for the current state of affairs? Is it proper to blow up Spanish commuters or even commuters in Jerusalem as a response?
Apart from all of the history which is hotly disputed, the plain fact is Israel exists, and Jews (the actual people who are the inheritors of the "great and noble religion" you profess to like so much) want it to survive. You write about Judaism like it's a museum display.
Scouser:
Fascism:
Definition: [n] a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
Please explain how Zionism is fascism. Don't bandy about words like racism and fascism when you don't know what you're talking about.
Racism is a bit harder to nail down. The UN, led by the despotic governments of the Arab world, trumpeted how Zionism is racism for many years. In a way, creating a state for Jews to the exclusion of others (not that there aren't Muslims, Christians, Bahai etc. in Israel) does privilege Jews over non-Jews. I'm a Jew, and if I want to to I can immigrate to Israel with none of the barriers that non-Jews might face. I agree that's racism, and it's a trade-off made for the sake of having the Jewish state remain Jewish.
Zionism is the political movement whose adherents believe that Jews need a nation-state of their own in order to be safe and full members of the community of nations. Every other ethnic nation is said to have the right to a state, and although Sikhs, Tibetans, Kurds, and many others are still without states, most would agree that if you see yourselves as a distinct, you should have a state of your own.
The world seems to believe in nationalism. Do Jews not count, do Jews not need or deserve a state?
I have no argument that many Arabs suffered because of the events surrounding the creation of a Jewish state in historical Israel. But that isn't the whole story. Do the Arabs have no responsibility for the current state of affairs? Is it proper to blow up Spanish commuters or even commuters in Jerusalem as a response?
Apart from all of the history which is hotly disputed, the plain fact is Israel exists, and Jews (the actual people who are the inheritors of the "great and noble religion" you profess to like so much) want it to survive. You write about Judaism like it's a museum display.
