ocean976124 said:
This list shows liberal stupidity. As I previously stated, I was talking about current military action. Everything listed as post 1991 involves mistakes not deliberate killing of civilians. This list shows the true idiocy of liberalism. We hit something we believe to be a military target and we turn out to be wrong and somehow thats the same as deliberately bombing women and children.
BTW, don't think the anti-American liberals are unique for this kind of historical argument. The IRA used similiar lists and historical claims to justify their bombing of mainland england which resulted in the direct killing of innocent people. You sound just like my pro-IRA relatives...
Not sure why anything before '91 is not valid, but here's from '91 forward.
Iraq --US General R Neal in '91 described Basra in Iraq as a military town with no civilian targets. It was carpet bombed as a 'fire free zone' violating Article 51 of the Geneva protocol. You see, Basra is not just military. It is the second largest city in Iraq with 800000 people. Thousands of civilians died. Mistake? No. US General McPeak explained that Basra was large with a low density of military targets within it. Carpet area bombing was the most efficient way, but unfortunately with the greatest loss of life.
Iraq --In '03 the 'decapitation strategy', which was used to bomb Iraqi leaders as they moved about Baghdad with cellphones, could only locate targets within a 100 meter radius. That's an area over 600 ft across. In densely populated civilian neighborhoods, 600 ft times about 50 bombs used in this strategy, accounted for the loss of more than 1000 civilians. Mistake? Not as the Human Rights Watch reported it.
Kuwait --General Schwarzkopf ordered, at the start of the '91 Gulf War, to not let anyone or anything out of Kuwait City. As a result thousands of civilians, especially unarmed Palestinians, were killed as they tried to escape the city. US Air Force were given orders to take out anything that moves. Mistake? No, just stupidity.
Somalia --In Magadishu '93, nearly 500 unarmed civilians running for their lives, were cut down by US helicopter gunmen.
Sudan --In '98 the Clinton administration had a large Sudan medicine factory bombed with 16 cruise missiles. He did this with no certain knowledge about the factory owners or what it produced. He did it to be on the safe side in case terrorists were making chemical weapons there. But he also did it with no concern on how the country would cope without medicines if it was only a pharmaceutical factory. Of course, it was.
Yugoslavia --The US ordered the intentional bombing of a Belgrade television station, killing 16 civilians. No military or government connections here. Nor was the station broadcasting propaganda under Milosovic. The US just wanted it silenced. US NATO commanders also ordered Spanish pilots to drop anti-personnel bombs on Pristina and Nis. The pilot's Colonel refused that order because these were not military targets. Good thing. But the pilots were transfered because the order to bomb was not a mistake.
And I could go through the rest, but if you don't get it now, you never will.
