Doom and gloom predictions....

fictionfactor

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The day I meet a single person who has caught covid I might believe your nonsense
Otherwise its kinda scary how the radicals seem to be always right

So have you met a covid person yet?
They are as elusive as fucking bigfoot

Hospital overrun my ass
They are EMPTY
I finally have a few months ago.......very sore throat..could not taste food...was back to normal in a couple of days...what is interesting a number of people with covid do not infect people inside their home....what i am saying its not highly contagious...perhaps the new varient is......i think if we as a country wore masks, social distanced, frequent hand washing and not locked down we could have still successfully fought this virus and avoided all this debt and financial destruction
 
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Many people are sick of the story. The sky had not fallen despite the daily predictions. They had to open things back up as people are at the breaking point. At least it is winter and people dont mind staying in out of the cold — but only so much big brother can be tolerated.
 

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Many people are sick of the story. The sky had not fallen despite the daily predictions. They had to open things back up as people are at the breaking point. At least it is winter and people dont mind staying in out of the cold — but only so much big brother can be tolerated.
For the record- I am completely against the indiscriminate shutdowns. Right now they're talking about loosening of the restrictions and, by the time they go province wide, the spring thaw will be here with the usual spike in the flu cases...and covid. So, they'll shut us down again for a couple of months. Who the fuck can sustain that?
 
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For the record- I am completely against the indiscriminate shutdowns. Right now they're talking about loosening of the restrictions and, by the time they go province wide, the spring thaw will be here with the usual spike in the flu cases...and covid. So, they'll shut us down again for a couple of months. Who the fuck can sustain that?
Lord knows I have tried to do my part but I have to admit, I don't know if I can handle a third lockdown and I am sure I will break if there is a fourth.
 

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Lord knows I have tried to do my part but I have to admit, I don't know if I can handle a third lockdown and I am sure I will break if there is a fourth.
I and my workplace, while active, we fully participated in the anti covid protocols, such as they were given to us by the province at all times, 100% of the time. I visited some SPs and MPs, a low risk activity since I'm single and observe protocols. We had one case of covid out of hundreds of employees- brought to us courtesy of an employee visiting a hospital(best guess)-all employees worked from home for two weeks as result and there were no more infections. We can easily function at 100% capacity and safely given a chance. There is no reason for restrictions. And most businesses can and have done just as well. I see adaptation and rules following everywhere and, since fall, I have personally visited many, many different businesses. Unfortunately the useless governments that we have treat us like they treat themselves- like idiots who cannot take care of themselves without a shutdown.
 
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Look at sweden with no lockdowns the sky didnt fall with people dieing on the streets...cases high yes....but the country looks nothing like the world looked like in 1918 with the spanish flu......just fear mongering....i think they should be focusing on getting the vaccines out
You are factually incorrect.
Sweden is the worst out of all the Nordic countries which they share so many sociological norms with, and the exact reason is because they did not take as stringent preventive measures in place as the others.

With a population of 10.1 Million people which is less than Ontario, the daily high number of cases Sweden has seen is 11,376 in December and they have been consistently at just over 7,000 - 10,000 cases/day. Of course in the mind of some people that is nothing to worry about.
 
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I was hoping some would stay out of this and not use it to post misinformation.

I am just expressing my frustration after almost a year of this now and just not seeing us match these predictions. And not match them by a lot. Again, some of that has been because of precautions and I believe that. But some have been way off and I think this new one is as well.

It will be interesting to see, now that we are re-opening, if we hit the 10k prediction. Because that is what this prediction is. That if the lockdown is lifted now and not in three weeks, and if the British variant takes hold then we should hit 10K.

I will have to wait and see. But I can tell you if this doesn’t happen, I’m seriously losing my trust in these numbers.

Again; not enough to make me disobey SAH orders or lockdowns or stop wearing a mask, but I won’t be so inclined to stay home as must as possible like suggested when we were reopen between stage 1 and 2. Because that has been the message. If you could, do it. I did and now I’m starting to feel that maybe I didn’t really need to.
You’re frustrated over the fact that the worst case scenario didn’t come true because our preventive measures have worked,
That’s nothing to be frustrated about.

And they are not way off, those worst case scenarios would have come true and were based on no preventive measures being taken originally and now not being followed by people or more strict preventive measures not being undertaken.
As well no right thinking government should just sit back and let the worst case scenario's happen, if number of daily cases start to increase (which they will) you will see the government rolling back the phases if not shutdowns again.

Your frustration should be at the COVIDIOTS who are the cause of the extended shutdowns. It's really not that hard to wear a mask, socially distance and stay within one's household but for selfish #whataboutme people in Canada it has been and that's the issue we've faced from the beginning.

You think 10,000 cases per day is an overblown number just look at Sweden which with a smaller population than Ontario had a daily high of over 11,000 cases in December and were consistenly between 7,000 - 10,000 cases/day for over a month, and that's with a population that listens to their government far more than Canadians do, with a significantly less number of #whataboutme type of people.
 
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The day I meet a single person who has caught covid I might believe your nonsense
Otherwise its kinda scary how the radicals seem to be always right

So have you met a covid person yet?
They are as elusive as fucking bigfoot

Hospital overrun my ass
They are EMPTY
well, I've never seen Bigfoot or a unicorn but I've been called both
I have 2 distant relatives who have caught it, 4 friends or former co-workers
most are front line or essential workers. all were very healthy before & not at risk 1 from each group has no idea how or where they caught it.
the ICU's in the big cities have needed to ship some covid patients to other hospitals who had space. Plus the newest hospital in Vaughan that opened a few weeks ago is strictly for Covid patients from what I've heard

the variant or mutated virus is in all provinces now. In speaking to a nurse at Scarborough Hospital last week when I had a needed procedure done earlier as a cancelation from someone who got covid, she said that they are more concerned about the 3rd wave coming than the 1st. She said I was lucky for the cancelation & bump, as she feels that my scheduled April visit would have been cancelled with the 3rd wave taking over the Hospital.
are numbers skewed? yes quite possible as you have people die with covid, but also with 1 or several other health issues. Did Covid speed up their death? not sure, but if they died with a positive covid test, its marked as a covid death. If you die from a car crash & had covid, thats not considered a covid death, unless the crash was caused from a medical distress issue.
 
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On my street of 8 houses, two have covid, a household of two and one of 4 that included 2 kids, I personally know now 10 people who have caught it,,, AND i live outside TO. Of the 10, 1 ended up on a ventilator
 

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I don’t believe we will hit 10k if the lockdown is ended. Even with the new UK variant that is expected to dominate in the cases.
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Based on how things went in the UK and elsewhere, it seems a reasonable prediction but we have to keep in mind those numbers are IF there are no restrictions.
 

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Here's what I think since you asked.

The corona virus is .06 microns.

By comparison a human hair is 70 microns.

So your trousers ain't doing jack.

But a fitted N95 mask does offer adequate protection if both parties are wearing one.

Problem is nobody is doing that.........And they're not going to either
 

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Here's what I think since you asked.

The corona virus is .06 microns.

By comparison a human hair is 70 microns.

So your trousers ain't doing jack.

But a fitted N95 mask does offer adequate protection if both parties are wearing one.

Problem is nobody is doing that.........And they're not going to either
haha
ok
but still something is better than nothing.
I do understand pants are not the same as an N95 mask, but I was trying to keep things simple.
Is this better covid spreader.jpg
 

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If they're both wearing pants and fabric masks they can still smell each others farts.

Last time I was in a mall I was in a store handling some items. I gelled my hands after. In the mall I passed a washroom so I though I'd wash my hands too. I was wearing a blue disposable mask. Washing my hands some dude was in a stall taking a shit and I could smell it the whole time I was in there washing my hands.

After I thought if I can smell that guys shit (which is microscopic airborne shit particulate) what's this mask doing to protect me from a virus or someone else if I was exhaling?
 

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After I thought if I can smell that guys shit (which is microscopic airborne shit particulate) what's this mask doing to protect me from a virus or someone else if I was exhaling?
Are you sure it wasn't your breath?? Just asking, not trying to be an asshole!
 

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For the record- I am completely against the indiscriminate shutdowns. Right now they're talking about loosening of the restrictions and, by the time they go province wide, the spring thaw will be here with the usual spike in the flu cases...and covid. So, they'll shut us down again for a couple of months. Who the fuck can sustain that?
They’re already pushing the third wave story on us now. I too have adapted and followed all orders and restrictions but this seems almost fruitless. The mutations will continue to occur wether we open or not. There isn’t even any guarantee that vaccines won’t protect against future mutations as well. We’re going to have to learn to live with this; living in constant lockdown isn’t sustainable in the long term.
 
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Here's what I think since you asked.

The corona virus is .06 microns.

By comparison a human hair is 70 microns.

So your trousers ain't doing jack.

But a fitted N95 mask does offer adequate protection if both parties are wearing one.

Problem is nobody is doing that.........And they're not going to either
Wait, are you saying an analogy is not 100% correct?
It's a pretty good one though as pants significantly reduce the speed and amount of piss that can pass through it just like masks significantly reduce the speed and amount particles that can pass through them. Also in both cases, they don't help as much if you are sitting on each others laps but work fairly effectively if you are 2 m away.


BTW. The appropriate numbers for covid is 1-100 micrometres as transmission is primarily through droplets and aerosols.
 
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