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Boober69

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Even if it was "intent'' here, show us any proof that it is illegal and the intent is equivalent to "theft". Already Pavel and Frankfooter have garbaged your allegations, that will not stand up in any court on this Globe. Pavel even posted a link that advises you to do what I am doing on a regular basis, to protect the security of the device and your banking and other information that otherwise makes the device more gullible to be hacked into. By the way you still have to comprehend the meaning of "hacking" when you falsely alleged that I "hacked" into The Toronto Star's website!!

So you are the one that is alleging that I am guilty. So, what happened to innocence before being proven to be guilty in a court of law. Give up as your ignorance knows no bounds!!
So now you are admitting intent, but want to know if it’s illegal?

So let’s see...you first brag about skirting the pay wall system by clearing cookies, then switch your tune to using a shared password (which if that was true you wouldn’t need to clear your cookies to access the articles...so you are caught in a lie on that one), then you try and claim that you cleared your cookies as a housekeeping exercise?

Frankfooter can’t defend you to save his life so I would fire him as your legal council if I were you.
Pavel hasn’t responded to me because he knows I’m right.

You have nothing left other than your ruined reputation, broken integrity, and living as an admitted thief.
You should self-isolate...and not because of Covid-19.

Ps you may also want to send the publisher a note asking them what they think of you grabbing more free articles by skirting their pay wall and see what they tell you.

Or better yet, pay for your subscription like everyone else does.
Thief!
 

Frankfooter

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So now you are admitting intent, but want to know if it’s illegal?

Thief!
There was no admission of intent.
What was likely a fringe benefit of basic internet security is not theft.
You really think paper's aren't aware that clearing cookies gives users another couple of free articles a month?
 

bver_hunter

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So now you are admitting intent, but want to know if it’s illegal?
You cannot comprehend anything, can you. It was a hypothetical IF it was the intent. Not admitting to anything. So see how presumptuous you are and no wonder you make all those fake allegations on a 24 / 7 basis!!

So let’s see...you first brag about skirting the pay wall system by clearing cookies, then switch your tune to using a shared password (which if that was true you wouldn’t need to clear your cookies to access the articles...so you are caught in a lie on that one), then you try and claim that you cleared your cookies as a housekeeping exercise?
Again very presumptuous that it was bragging. You do not even understand the basics of clearing your cache / history from your computer and how it protects you and your identity. You really need help in this respect. Nothing to do with "housekeeping", and once again just the security of the device and ID!!

Frankfooter can’t defend you to save his life so I would fire him as your legal council if I were you.
Pavel hasn’t responded to me because he knows I’m right.
See once again more stupid assumption from you. Is Frankfooter my lawyer?? What are you smoking, as it is yet another PRESUMPTION?? He is far smarter than you!!

Pavel talks a lot of sense and probably does not spend his precious time on this Board. He already garbaged your myth and actually posted a link that states why you should clear your cache history on a regular basis, especially after logging into your banking or Government accounts. He is probably still laughing his heart out at your very child like allegations. Can you not understand this very simple fact. Anyway, once again the Banks and The Government sites advise you to CLEAR YOUR CACHE / HISTORY. PERIOD!! If this helps in clearing out the cookies of the news media that inserted them on their device, then go to Apple and let them know that they should FIX this issue. Not the user!!

No news media can sue you for reading their articles if they post it on the website for all to see even if it is on a limited basis. Read their terms and conditions before you make wildly false allegations!!

You have nothing left other than your ruined reputation, broken integrity, and living as an admitted thief.
You should self-isolate...and not because of Covid-19.E]
Once again you are displaying your ignorance. Your allegations unproven with zero proof whatsoever, including zero links makes you a clown and an ignorant one at that!!

Ps you may also want to send the publisher a note asking them what they think of you grabbing more free articles by skirting their pay wall and see what they tell you.

Or better yet, pay for your subscription like everyone else does.
Thief!
Again I told you that it was now paid for with regards to the Toronto Star. Since when are you worried about a left leaning news media?? Your jealousy because I get to share it really upsets you. We know that no one will trust you and share their online subscriptions to their logins.

You are a very sick individual that requires medical help. That is why you have made fake allegations that implementation of a carbon tax at the pumps will raise your food prices by 40%. Then you made the other very, very fake allegation about Trudeau (again without any links or proof), and his sexual assaults on students at the school that he taught. When are these allegations coming to fruition. The answer is NEVER, even though you told us to be PATIENT.

No wonder that no one take you seriously anymore. Ignorant Boober You are a FAKE INDIVIDUAL, and alleging that I am a thief is FAKE and Frankfooter is my Lawyer is also FAKE.

You lost the debate!!
 

Boober69

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You cannot comprehend anything, can you. It was a hypothetical IF it was the intent. Not admitting to anything. So see how presumptuous you are and no wonder you make all those fake allegations on a 24 / 7 basis!!



Again very presumptuous that it was bragging. You do not even understand the basics of clearing your cache / history from your computer and how it protects you and your identity. You really need help in this respect. Nothing to do with "housekeeping", and once again just the security of the device and ID!!



See once again more stupid assumption from you. Is Frankfooter my lawyer?? What are you smoking, as it is yet another PRESUMPTION?? He is far smarter than you!!

Pavel talks a lot of sense and probably does not spend his precious time on this Board. He already garbaged your myth and actually posted a link that states why you should clear your cache history on a regular basis, especially after logging into your banking or Government accounts. He is probably still laughing his heart out at your very child like allegations. Can you not understand this very simple fact. Anyway, once again the Banks and The Government sites advise you to CLEAR YOUR CACHE / HISTORY. PERIOD!! If this helps in clearing out the cookies of the news media that inserted them on their device, then go to Apple and let them know that they should FIX this issue. Not the user!!

No news media can sue you for reading their articles if they post it on the website for all to see even if it is on a limited basis. Read their terms and conditions before you make wildly false allegations!!



Once again you are displaying your ignorance. Your allegations unproven with zero proof whatsoever, including zero links makes you a clown and an ignorant one at that!!



Again I told you that it was now paid for with regards to the Toronto Star. Since when are you worried about a left leaning news media?? Your jealousy because I get to share it really upsets you. We know that no one will trust you and share their online subscriptions to their logins.

You are a very sick individual that requires medical help. That is why you have made fake allegations that implementation of a carbon tax at the pumps will raise your food prices by 40%. Then you made the other very, very fake allegation about Trudeau (again without any links or proof), and his sexual assaults on students at the school that he taught. When are these allegations coming to fruition. The answer is NEVER, even though you told us to be PATIENT.

No wonder that no one take you seriously anymore. Ignorant Boober You are a FAKE INDIVIDUAL, and alleging that I am a thief is FAKE and Frankfooter is my Lawyer is also FAKE.

You lost the debate!!

The more you back peddle the worse it gets for you.
If you think writing long responses with distracting statements is working to hide your thievery your wrong.
Shared account?
If you had an account, shared or otherwise, then why would your response be that you “found a way around” getting past the limited free articles?

You only mentioned a shared account AFTER you realized you got caught clearing cookies with the intent to keep getting free articles.

Then you invented some bs about a shared account to try and save face. Guess what? That didn’t work.
You’re a thief.

...and a bad liar.
 

Boober69

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There was no admission of intent.
What was likely a fringe benefit of basic internet security is not theft.
You really think paper's aren't aware that clearing cookies gives users another couple of free articles a month?
You don’t think cable companies were aware people were stealing signals and splitting signals to more sets than they were paying for? Does that make right in your world?

No admission? Really?
He bragged about it with zero mention of anything to do with computer cleaning, accidents or shared accounts.
He knew exactly what to do to purposely clear cookies to gain more articles.

Anyone who’s intent to clear cookies to keep their computer clean would simply keep accessing free articles without knowing why and may never relate the two.

That’s not what he claimed. He knew exactly what to do and for what purpose.

Must be agitating defending a friend who’s a thief eh?
Are you also a thief perhaps?
 

Frankfooter

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Must be agitating defending a friend who’s a thief eh?
Are you also a thief perhaps?
He's not a thief.

By the way, I assume you have never illegally downloaded a movie, music or porn ever in your life.
Because that would be hypocritical, right?
 

bver_hunter

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The more you back peddle the worse it gets for you.
If you think writing long responses with distracting statements is working to hide your thievery your wrong.
Shared account?
If you had an account, shared or otherwise, then why would your response be that you “found a way around” getting past the limited free articles?

You only mentioned a shared account AFTER you realized you got caught clearing cookies with the intent to keep getting free articles.

Then you invented some bs about a shared account to try and save face. Guess what? That didn’t work.
You’re a thief.

...and a bad liar.
You ignorance knows no bounds. Nothing gets worse and still not one single iota of proof to back your allegations.

That is all you are about and sweet nothing else. I have nothing to back peddle about. Only in your narrow minded warped view is it stealing by watching what is posted on the internet.

You are the only childish individual that is accusing me about stealing, and obviously you have not read what others have posted on the Technology or in the General Area Forum!!

You will be accusing half the members of stealing, considering the fact that many of them have gadgets like Kodi and discussed the various Apps related to it. This pales into comparison!!

But then you will not understand what those gadgets are, as you are a lost cause!! :rolleyes:
 

Boober69

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He's not a thief.

By the way, I assume you have never illegally downloaded a movie, music or porn ever in your life.
Because that would be hypocritical, right?
So by asking that question you admit that what Bver did was illegal? ie "everybody does it so it must be ok"?
Any other desperate questions to distract from your thief friend?
 

Boober69

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This pales into comparison!!
"Pales into comparison" sounds like you are saying your crime is not as serious as the others you mention. But guess what? It's still a crime and you're still a thief.

What proof are you looking for exactly? The proof where you smugly tell everyone how you get around the free article limit? That proof?

Or when you lie and say you are using a shared account? And then switch to clearing cookies to clean your computer? Quite the flip-flop.

Sounds like someone desperately trying to get out of a lie about their thievery.
 

bver_hunter

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"Pales into comparison" sounds like you are saying your crime is not as serious as the others you mention. But guess what? It's still a crime and you're still a thief.

What proof are you looking for exactly? The proof where you smugly tell everyone how you get around the free article limit? That proof?

Or when you lie and say you are using a shared account? And then switch to clearing cookies to clean your computer? Quite the flip-flop.

Sounds like someone desperately trying to get out of a lie about their thievery.
Your allegations about Trudeau's sexual assault during his Teacher's Days.... Fake. Zero links, Zero proof and you still insisted that it was going to be revealed!! When???

Your allegations that a 4.4 cent carbon tax would raise the costs of groceries by 40%........ Fake. Even a 12 year old child would have a better Mathematical Comprehension of the costs!!

Now this allegation that I am a thief.......... Fake. Zero proof. Post a link from the internet to justify your case or even The Toronto Star terms and conditions that would state so. Of course you would not be able to decipher their terms, as you do not have that basic level of IQ. Just as well you are not a lawyer, as even the Judge would call your a Liar for bringing up such hypothetical nonsense!!

Boober... Proving once again that he is Ignorant, in spite of Pavel and Frankfooter calling him out on this!!
 

Frankfooter

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So by asking that question you admit that what Bver did was illegal? ie "everybody does it so it must be ok"?
Any other desperate questions to distract from your thief friend?
Not at all, I'm just asking you if you've ever done anything illegal yourself.
I'll have to take it from your avoidance that you have indeed.
 

Boober69

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Not at all, I'm just asking you if you've ever done anything illegal yourself.
I'll have to take it from your avoidance that you have indeed.
No I abide by the law and do the right thing. I don’t cheat systems to get free stuff while others rightfully pay.
How about you?
You ask that question as if to suggest you break the law sometimes.
So?
 

Boober69

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Your allegations about Trudeau's sexual assault during his Teacher's Days.... Fake. Zero links, Zero proof and you still insisted that it was going to be revealed!! When???

Your allegations that a 4.4 cent carbon tax would raise the costs of groceries by 40%........ Fake. Even a 12 year old child would have a better Mathematical Comprehension of the costs!!

Now this allegation that I am a thief.......... Fake. Zero proof. Post a link from the internet to justify your case or even The Toronto Star terms and conditions that would state so. Of course you would not be able to decipher their terms, as you do not have that basic level of IQ. Just as well you are not a lawyer, as even the Judge would call your a Liar for bringing up such hypothetical nonsense!!

Boober... Proving once again that he is Ignorant, in spite of Pavel and Frankfooter calling him out on this!!
Keep distracting. Just highlights your guilt.
Did you read any terms and conditions before stealing more free articles?
No you didn’t.
So why not read them yourself if you think cheating their pay wall is ok?
Better yet, why don’t you contact the Star and ask what they think about your clever workaround?
What do you think they would say?
What do you think a paying subscriber would say?
 

bver_hunter

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Keep distracting. Just highlights your guilt.
Did you read any terms and conditions before stealing more free articles?
No you didn’t.
So why not read them yourself if you think cheating their pay wall is ok?
Better yet, why don’t you contact the Star and ask what they think about your clever workaround?
What do you think they would say?
What do you think a paying subscriber would say?
You are just Ignorant. Period!!
 

bver_hunter

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Weak response.
The prosecution rests.
Verdict: Yes I am Guilty of being Ignorant
Same as you alleged that Trudeau was Guilty of The Sexual Assault Allegations against those students.
Yes, You are just ignorant. Period!!
 

Boober69

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Same as you alleged that Trudeau was Guilty of The Sexual Assault Allegations against those students.
Yes, You are just ignorant. Period!!
You shouldn’t be concerned about Trudeau’s groping right now. (Although a valiant effort to distract once again).

What you should be concerned about right now is your shattered reputation.
Focus on rebuilding your integrity.
Perhaps consider apologizing to all those people who pay for their subscriptions rather than stealing articles.
Maybe also consider contacting the Star and offering them payment for the multitude of articles you have stolen.

I can only offer you advice...the road to recovery needs to start with you.
But I do have confidence in you if that helps.
 

Frankfooter

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You shouldn’t be concerned about Trudeau’s groping right now. (Although a valiant effort to distract once again).

What you should be concerned about right now is your shattered reputation.
Focus on rebuilding your integrity.
Perhaps consider apologizing to all those people who pay for their subscriptions rather than stealing articles.
Maybe also consider contacting the Star and offering them payment for the multitude of articles you have stolen.

I can only offer you advice...the road to recovery needs to start with you.
But I do have confidence in you if that helps.
fake news booby strikes again.
when denial is all you got left.

you're the only person left in ontario now defending druggie's license plates.
 

pavel bure

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It’s about intent.
Purposely clearing cookies with the intent of fooling a company that you haven’t read the free articles they are offering is theft.
The company has not consented to giving away free unlimited articles. Just because there is a way to fool their technology into providing more free articles doesn’t mean they consent to that.

What this also means is that their true paying subscribers are subsidizing those who are tricking the system and getting an endless supply of free articles.

Of course, socialists who believe everyone else should pay would think this is not theft.
Very interesting. Let me clarify that I did not respond to you as I am not that back and forth type of guy that gets fully involved on this website.
Does not necessarily mean that I agree with your response like you alleged.
Now, definitely and 100% it is not stealing if you clear your browsing history and your caches on a regular basis.
These media make their money off their advertisers. Then by installing cookies of the advertisers that you are not aware of, the media get paid by the advertisers. That means that someone like The Toronto Star has said thank you to you for just entering on to their website and you are counted as an additional client, irrespective of whether you are a subscriber. This actually boosts their numbers and they then get more advertisers and income just to use their platforms. In this case bver_hunter has done them a favour by entering their website in the first place.
Now this free subscription is only to lure you to join. They may offer you a couple of free articles for the month. But if you want to religiously read the whole newspaper, then you have to clear just the history several times, and not the cookies as you falsely claim in order to read all their articles for that day. This makes it a nuisance and hence it is easier to subscribe. But just a couple of articles may not make it worth your cost to subscribe. I believe that the Toronto Star are not offering free articles any longer. If he posted a link then he must have read the full article based on his subscription.

Please just move on as it is not theft, even if intentional, and the reason should now be crystal clear, as to why. I am an IT guy and have worked with the online media. That is why you will have no ground to stand on, in any court of law if you own a media and then sue someone for reading what is supposed to be free online irrespective of how many free logins were conducted by an individual. No laws were broken, no hacking into the website like you also alleged and hence no theft. The Toronto Star made their income on these free articles.

Anyway, such discussions should be conducted in the Technology Forum. Lots of tech savvy guys around who would clarify such issues that you have.
 
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