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Do the vaccines actually work?

lenny2

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Get vaccinated - Trump

I did - Trump

Vaccines will save millions of lives - Trump

Get the Trump vaccine - Trump

Vaccines ending the pandemic

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squeezer

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Maybe donate to these victims of the greatest medical fraud of all time.
Do you still put your teeth as they fall out under the pillow anxiously awaiting that prized $5 bill or wait by the window waiting for the Grinch to come down just before Christmas from the mountain and take all the kid's gifts? Your view of reality is so full of nonsense and bullshit one assumes your entire life is full of the same shit.
 
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HungSowel

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Australia has about the same amount of pop as Canada, similar GDP. We had 25k deaths they had 910, they did 30x better than us, they set the bar so fucking high that vaccines get embarrassed.

Assuming because our populations are similar the number of deaths from the vaccine is similar it would be 25k dead from C19 vs ~210 deaths from the vaccine for this country, a ~100x difference
 
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TeeJay

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west gta
May 30th
80+ 5,463 deaths, 22.1%, 223 new deaths
April 30th
80+ 5,240 deaths, 22.2%, 288 new deaths
Mar 30th
80+ 4,952 deaths, 23.1%, 198 new deaths
Feb 28th
80+ 4,754 deaths, 23.5%

We keep hearing vaccines work etc etc
So why is death toll not showing a drastic drop? All these old people are vaccinated right? Every month its always another 200 for our stats.
Even going back to last year
And percentage of fatalities changes a bit up and down but always close to 22% chance of death, even with vaccines

Apr 30th 2020
80+ 774 deaths, 20.6%


 

benstt

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So why is death toll not showing a drastic drop? All these old people are vaccinated right? Every month its always another 200 for our stats.
I was accelerating my car up to 200kmh, but now I'm pressing the brake. Why doesn't my car stop right away?

Deaths are dropping, they lag cases though. Active cases peaked around April 20 and are dropping sharply. Deaths are dropping, but lag cases.

Patience.

 

oberonjames

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We keep hearing vaccines work etc etc
So why is death toll not showing a drastic drop? All these old people are vaccinated right? Every month its always another 200 for our stats.
Even going back to last year
And percentage of fatalities changes a bit up and down but always close to 22% chance of death, even with vaccines
We vaccinated the old people first because they're most likely to die. But the truth is that people in their 80's are not the ones selling you weed and booze, or delivering your parcels and groceries or making your take out food. They're not the ones marching like fascist in the streets in the hundreds, completely refusing to protect either themselves or others. They're not the ones taking 3 busses packed to the gills home from work in the middle of the night. They're not the ones throwing massive raves in the middle of a state of emergency and trashing public places.

I know we won't vaccinate the idiots, but we've just now started vaccinating the ones that deal with them most of the time. Once the people that have to be out there while we're all at home get vaccinated, things should start to really change, as we'll have protected the ones that are most likely to both get it and spread it.

Frankly, targeting the people more likely to get or spread the virus first would probably have had a greater impact. You could've still done 80 + adults and health care workers first. Just put essential workers third.

Also, vaccines are a mitigation tool. They're not exactly an instant cure. Right now, they're keeping the hospitals from getting overwhelmed and eventually will start to affect the spread of the virus. In fact, they're already starting to do so.

Unfortunately, it takes a while to eradicate a disease. At least we have vaccines. Making them used to take years, sometimes a decade. We got it done in about 1 year. Maybe things could have been worse?

Either way, I think we can all agree, we all want this shit to end.
 
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lenny2

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Jan 18, 2012
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May 30th
80+ 5,463 deaths, 22.1%, 223 new deaths
April 30th
80+ 5,240 deaths, 22.2%, 288 new deaths
Mar 30th
80+ 4,952 deaths, 23.1%, 198 new deaths
Feb 28th
80+ 4,754 deaths, 23.5%

We keep hearing vaccines work etc etc
So why is death toll not showing a drastic drop? All these old people are vaccinated right? Every month its always another 200 for our stats.
Even going back to last year
And percentage of fatalities changes a bit up and down but always close to 22% chance of death, even with vaccines

Apr 30th 2020
80+ 774 deaths, 20.6%


There has been a significate drop in the past several weeks.

May 8...47 deaths

May 31....9 deaths

 

Valcazar

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So why is death toll not showing a drastic drop?
Deaths are a lagging indicator.
As for the percentage, that obviously isn't going to change anytime soon even if all deaths over 80 stopped.
 
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