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Frankfooter

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They want other peoples money and control over others
Its no secret
You mean like trump and his 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico?

Have you decided to live by your rules?
That would mean no use of public roads, police, schools or hospitals.
Those are all paid by other people's money and you have no control over your live if you use them all.
 
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JohnLarue

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You mean like trump and his 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico?
No
That is not relevant to the question "what does the left want ?"

is Trump Tariffs going to be your answer to every question ?

e,g.
Q1. Why did Trudeaus socialist plan crash and burn
Frankfooter's answer: You mean like trump and his 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico?


Have you decided to live by your rules?
Too funny
By a whole lot lot more than you would permit me.
Too bad for you comrade your socialist experiment in Canada was tested for 9 years and the test results are in
F for Failure

The changes that are going to happen will make you shit your pants in frustration

That would mean no use of public roads, police, schools or hospitals.
Too bad you did not spend enough time in school
you might have figured out socialism kills the golden goose that pays for public roads, police, schools or hospitals.


Those are all paid by other people's money and you have no control over your live if you use them all.
is that why you dropped out of school ?
Seems like an odd choice, especially when the lack of education is so evident
What ever will you do when the nanny state is shrunk?

back on ignore you go
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Contrary t your beliefs, not only the youngsters, but also those aging baby boomers recorded their huge wins in the Highest Court in Europe:

European court rules human rights violated by climate inaction




Great job Greta Thunberg. Keep on fighting for the future of your environment!!
You may not be as supportive of climate litigation from youngsters or
adults alike if it is your own business interest that is at stake. If you were
working with RBC would you withdraw from financing the oil and gas
industry? If you were working with Manulife would you stop providing
insurace to oil and gas company workers out of fears of threats from
climate litigators?

Here are exerpts from the recent message of Friends of the Earth
to ING. No businessman in his right mind would want to deal with
those scums:

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We have invited the CEO of ING for a talk. This is the last chance for the bank to avoid a Climate case. After the ruling in the Shell Climate Case, the basis for a one against ING has only become more solid. Read all about it in this article...................................
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What did Milieudefensie change in the demands to ING?
We have adjusted the demands due to new insights we have gained over the past year. The court's ruling in the Climate Case against Shell confirmed that with a so-called “sectoral” addition, we are in an even stronger position in a case against ING. We'll explain:

In addition to our demand that ING reduces all its emissions, we now add targets for reducing emissions per polluting sector. Think of industries (sectors) such as steel, cement, or oil and gas. This is important because, as a 'systemic bank', ING upholds the polluting practices of all polluting sectors by financing them. A systemic bank is very large and influential, and deeply rooted in the economy.

So, we are actually helping ING with a tailored package of demands!

And what if the CEO does not show up?

If we do not hear anything, or ING choses not to respond to our demands and also does not come up with clear proposals for change, then we will proceed with a 'summons'. This means delivering a very long document with legal arguments to ING and the court. This is an official next step in the Climate Case. Then, there is no way back for ING......................................>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Insidious Von

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Sir Charles is smart, he doesn't take to roasting unless there is evidence to back him up.

 

nottyboi

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You think she wants to deal with mass layoffs in the oil and gas industry?
The province should have complete control over it's natural resources.
How are they gonna move the resource without the assistance of the Feds? They are land locked. THey are not even able to deal with the orphan wells and regulate their own oil companies properly.
 

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PS…most of the people who listened to those ads and moved to that red neck shithole came back within 6 months.
Evidence for your opinion? A quick search reveals no data to support migration from ON to AB then ON.

StatsCan shows "Returning Emmigrants" but not where they came from. AB is still very LARGELY positive immigration.


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JohnLarue

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Ok they are building a massive factory in Windsor as a result of this money that will create jobs for a very long time (hopefully anyway) its better then the billions the govt had to shell out to close up oil and gas wells that the corrupt AB oil industry simply abandoned and left spewing toxins into the air. At leasts this supports positive development of Canadas economy, vs the govt having to shell out billions to remediate environmental damage by the oil industry and stop toxins from seeping out and poisoning Albertans. Were you againt the funding of orphan well decommishing by the Trudeau govt? Would it have been better to keep them spewing oil and sour gas? YUMMY!!!

Only a moron does not understand that line of questioning is a political ambush. The factory is still being built so asking how much carbon reduction it has yielded is idiotic and sucked up by people like you as proof of corruption. Its like asking how much oil TMX has moved 6m into the project. You need to start a 12 step program.


If you are worried about govts controlling carbon because its "life" don't . They already control water, transport and food. Would you prefer they didn't and you had to boil your water and when you eat food you have no idea if its gonna kill you? Do you like roads, instead of having to hack your way on dogsled or on muddy trails?

have you ever been to Windsor ?
that is one beat up town

If you are worried about govts controlling carbon because its "life" don't . They already control water, transport and food. Would you prefer they didn't and you had to boil your water and when you eat food you have no idea if its gonna kill you? Do you like roads, instead of having to hack your way on dogsled or on muddy trails?
that is just plain stupid and highlights why you are not to be trusted
you are trying to justify govt control of energy by claiming they are already controlling other essentials

Socialists have turned this country into a god damn mess in 9 short years and you want them to control energy now ?
and you want the taxpayer to fund your nightmare experiment ?
What part of record visits to the foodbank and 1/2 of Canadians within $200 of insolvency do you not understand ?

Now pay attention
The NetZero / green new deal / socialist experiment has failed
Not to be repeated.
 
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JohnLarue

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How are they gonna move the resource without the assistance of the Feds? They are land locked. THey are not even able to deal with the orphan wells and regulate their own oil companies properly.
simple, replace the feds with a different political party , blue sounds like a good choice, no more commie red politicians in Canada thank you
you need to keep up with current events

the Federal government can not stop the flow of oil out of Alberta
#1 It would create a real national unity crisis
#2. It would deprive govts of Royalty revenue
#3 It is an integrated system, shutting it down outside of Alberta would risk a huge spill
#4. Trump would cut off oil exports to eastern Canada ( Energy East decision- What an idiot Trudeau is)
#5. Trump moves quickly and would get the Keystone completed and offer $ to Alberta / TC Energy to ensure rapid completion.. if that is all he might do ?

your bulb burns very dimly
 
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simple, replace the feds with a different political party , blue sounds like a good choice, no more commie red politicians in Canada thank you
you need to keep up with current events

the Federal government can not stop the flow of oil out of Alberta
#1 It would create a real national unity crisis
#2. It would deprive govts of Royalty revenue
#3 It is an integrated system, shutting it down outside of Alberta would risk a huge spill
#4. Trump would cut off oil exports to eastern Canada ( Energy East decision- What an idiot Trudeau is)
#5. Trump moves quickly and would get the Keystone completed and offer $ to Alberta / TC Energy to ensure rapid completion.. if that is all he might do ?

your bulb burns very dimly
An independant AB would be in an exteremely weak position vis a vis exports. Only the US is avail. TMX on foreign territory. They would take it up the ass from the USA even more..but they seem to like that sorta thing lol. If AB seperated, Canada would take measures to secure its oil supply prior to separation. Trump is interested in increasing production in the USA,, not importing more oil from Canada. The 25% tariff on AB oil is designed to do that, A shut down would not be done without informing AB,
 
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nottyboi

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have you ever been to Windsor ?
that is one beat up town



that is just plain stupid and highlights why you are not to be trusted
you are trying to justify govt control of energy by claiming they are already controlling other essentials

Socialists have turned this country into a god damn mess in 9 short years and you want them to control energy now ?
and you want the taxpayer to fund your nightmare experiment ?
What part of record visits to the foodbank and 1/2 of Canadians within $200 of insolvency do you not understand ?

Now pay attention
The NetZero / green new deal / socialist experiment has failed
Not to be repeated.
So what if Windsor is beat up, all the more need to help them. They are getting a massive factory as a result of the 700m subsidy. You talk like Canada is the only nation that provides subsidies to corporations. Name me ONE developed nation that does not do so!! I am pretty sure this is another checkmate question you cannot answer, but go ahead SURPRISE ME!! lol 😂👌

On corp subsidies to corps by Conservative govts:

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/harper-governments-crony-capitalism

remebeber the 1.2B pipe to nowhere (Keystone)?
 
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JohnLarue

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An independant AB would be in an exteremely weak position vis a vis exports
They have been in an extremely weak position because of the Trudeau family and the Liberal party of Canada.

Do not think before you type?

. Only the US is avail. TMX on foreign territory. They would take it up the ass from the USA even more..but they seem to like that sorta thing lol.
god you are stupid
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?

If AB seperated, Canada would take measures to secure its oil supply prior to separation
.
???
After insisting they want nothing to do with their .... how did you describe it ?.... Oh yes..... 'Filthy dirty product"
Alberta would laugh in the liberals face


I bet you would ask your soon to be ex-wife for one last blow job at the divorce settlement hearing and wonder why she declined and wonder why she is getting all your money.

you are such a disingenuous purveyor of bovine scatology
seriously, how does the constant spew of bullshit from your yap not ruin the taste of food for you ?

Trump is interested in increasing production in the USA,, not importing more oil from Canada. The 25% tariff on AB oil is designed to do that, A shut down would not be done without informing AB,
god you are stupid
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?

Now pay attention
an Alberta separation is completely avoidable, via the next federal election, ........ think carefully
 
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JohnLarue

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So what if Windsor is beat up, all the more need to help them. They are getting a massive factory as a result of the 700m subsidy. You talk like Canada is the only nation that provides subsidies to corporations. Name me ONE developed nation that does not do so!! I am pretty sure this is another checkmate question you cannot answer, but go ahead SURPRISE ME!! lol 😂👌
Checkmate ?
checkers is more your speed, and I bet you cheat

you can not build or even maintain an economy based on government subsidies
That insanity has been tried so many times before and it fails each and every time

Soon you will wonder why you can not proper health care, why the roads are crumbling , schools are run down and where is the missing $700 mm gone for some public infrastructure you expect.
look no further than the a massive under utilized EV factory in Windsor or one of the underutilized Billion dollar money pit battery factories or some other liberal abuse of the taxpayer. there are far too many to list. Ok lets list one... STDC
 
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They have been in an extremely weak position because of the Trudeau family and the Liberal party of Canada.

Do not think before you type?



god you are stupid
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?

.
???
After insisting they want nothing to do with their .... how did you describe it ?.... Oh yes..... 'Filthy dirty product"
Alberta would laugh in the liberals face


I bet you would ask your soon to be ex-wife for one last blow job at the divorce settlement hearing and wonder why she declined and wonder why she is getting all your money.

you are such a disingenuous purveyor of bovine scatology
seriously, how does the constant spew of bullshit from your yap not ruin the taste of food for you ?



god you are stupid
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?

Now pay attention
an Alberta separation is completely avoidable, via the next federal election, ........ think carefully
AB oil production has increase 25% under Trudeau. Probably at the fastest rate in its history!! Who invited Danielle Smith to Mar Del Largo? It was apparently not Donald Trump. You do know its a golf club right? Apparently O'Learys buddy was a member and invited them.

You think AB could leave Canada with no leverage even after a referrendum lol. The more you type the dumber you make yourself look . How about the First Nations all have their own referrendums and decide to stay with Canada and slice AB into a jigsaw with infrastructure chopped up over First Nations under Canadian jurisdiction. Honestly, you cannot think outside that alcoholoic haze its HILARIOUS.

😂🤣👌
 
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nottyboi

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Checkmate ?
checkers is more your speed, and I bet you cheat

you can not build or even maintain an economy based on government subsidies
That insanity has been tried so many times before and it fails each and every time

Soon you will wonder why you can not proper health care, why the roads are crumbling , schools are run down and where is the missing $700 mm gone for some public infrastructure you expect.
look no further than the a massive under utilized EV factory in Windsor or one of the underutilized Billion dollar money pit battery factories or some other liberal abuse of the taxpayer. there are far too many to list. Ok lets list one... STDC
So you can't name ONE fucking rich nation on the ENTIRE PLANET that operates how you claim is the ideal and you tell ME I'm the lunatic? 🤣🤣😂😂👍👌🙄 CHECK MATE!!!
 

JohnLarue

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Jesus
He just claimed They do not need parliament to govern
we do not need parliament to reconvene

For the sake of stability of democracy.... we do not want to be held accountable

He does not seem to understand a very fundamental principle

A parliamentary democracy is a form of government where the head of government is accountable to the legislature and derives their power from the legislature's support.
The head of government, usually called the prime minister, must have the support of a majority of the legislature.
He does not have the support of a majority

The liberal party first, liberal party friends second , ... Canadians last
This is evil
 
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So you can't name ONE fucking rich nation on the ENTIRE PLANET that operates how you claim is the ideal and you tell ME I'm the lunatic? 🤣🤣😂😂👍👌🙄

you can not build or even maintain an economy based on government subsidies
That insanity has been tried so many times before and it fails each and every time
 
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nottyboi

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you can not build or even maintain an economy based on government subsidies
That insanity has been tried so many times before and it fails each and every time
So are you saying China has never used govt subsidies? Would you call them a failed state? 😂🤣🤣🤣😂👌 KEEP DIGGIN THAT HOLE!!!
 

JohnLarue

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So you can't name ONE fucking rich nation on the ENTIRE PLANET that operates how you claim is the ideal and you tell ME I'm the lunatic? 🤣🤣😂😂👍👌🙄 CHECK MATE!!!
you question is stupid

why do you avoid this question
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
 
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