Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

nottyboi

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you question is stupid

why do you avoid this question
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
She was not invited by Trump, but by a member and Trump will give a photo op to any of his members guests as they all helped bankroll his campaign and are part of the super rich entourage he built around him. How much time did she get with him? I would wager very little. Did she get any concessions?
 

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you question is stupid

why do you avoid this question
why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
So stupid you can't answer it. It shows your point of view is based on zero reseach or knowledge on the subject. Just a mantra you bleat out with no critical analysis.
 

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She was not invited by Trump, but by a member and Trump will give a photo op to any of his members guests as they all helped bankroll his campaign and are part of the super rich entourage he built around him. How much time did she get with him? I would wager very little. Did she get any concessions?
Which member invited her?
 

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So stupid you can't answer it. It shows your point of view is based on zero reseach or knowledge on the subject. Just a mantra you bleat out with no critical analysis.
you would not know critical analysis if it kicked you in the nuts

One post you are demanding a 100 mm bbl of oil
The next post you are calling oil a 'filthy dirty product"
The post after that you want to acquire Canadas share of the 'filthy dirty product" if Alberta were to separate
How much critical analysis did you to flip flop around like a fish out of water on that issue
Clown

You insist EVS will displace the need for the 'filthy dirty product" despite the material requirements and the infrastructure required

Critical analysis requires identifying the strengths and weakness of a proposed idea or a scenario and then asking critical questions about the proposal
Pie in the sky dreaming, ignoring the physical laws of nature (charging) and ignoring the infrastructure required is not critical analysis
why do you think the word critical is in critical analysis ?

go sit in the corner with your dunce cap on
 

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you would not know critical analysis if it kicked you in the nuts

One post you are demanding a 100 mm bbl of oil
The next post you are calling oil a 'filthy dirty product"
The post after that you want to acquire Canadas share of the 'filthy dirty product" if Alberta were to separate
How much critical analysis did you to flip flop around like a fish out of water on that issue
Clown

You insist EVS will displace the need for the 'filthy dirty product" despite the material requirements and the infrastructure required

Critical analysis requires identifying the strengths and weakness of a proposed idea or a scenario and then asking critical questions about the proposal
Pie in the sky dreaming, ignoring the physical laws of nature (charging) and ignoring the infrastructure required is not critical analysis
why do you think the word critical is in critical analysis ?

go sit in the corner with your dunce cap on
I did not call it that I was quoting US environmentalists who had a campaign against the Tar sands, did you forget? Society relies on many filthy dirty products. Is pork table ready right from the pen? Does gold come out of the ground nice and shiny? Would you be happy if someone poured a gallon of the finest Alberta Crude on your living room floor? (maybe it would be an improvement I dunno).

Yes critical analysis. Would Canada be better or worse of without providing financial incentives to major foreign investors hmmm. Lets look an countries that don't do that...hmm lets see Haiti...hmm not doing well huh. Not much industry...hmmmmm. Gee whiz, you know I can't find any cases of non-fucked up countries that don't offer financial incentives for major FDI. Hmm WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE FROM THIS!!!! HMMMMM...🤣😀👌

Lets see Windsor, pretty beat up., dying city, we can put a plant there, pros jobs, economic activity, infastructure revitalization, more money for all the strippers etc etc,. Con's -700m. Payback 3-5 years in tax revenues..
 

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She was not invited by Trump, but by a member and Trump will give a photo op to any of his members guests as they all helped bankroll his campaign and are part of the super rich entourage he built around him. How much time did she get with him? I would wager very little. Did she get any concessions?
Wrong again
Kevin O'Leary arranged the meeting
And he does not do anything unless there is an advantage $ for him ( perhaps not the nicest guy in the world)
He has a multi billion dollar AI data center project he wants to build in Alberta
AI is extremely energy intensive
We shall see if he is able to succeed.
Both O'Leary and Smith were all smiles after the meeting.
she continues to promote working with the Americans to expand overall trade (for all of Canada) rather than get into a trade war we are sure to lose


Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,

Trump just with withdrew from the Paris Accord
The banks are dropping Carneys green finance alliance like its got a bad smell

I thought you would have figured it out by now using your supposed critical analysis skills
I left you more than enough clues
you are not very bright

now again why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
still insist Ottawa should treat Alberta like shit ?
 

JohnLarue

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I did not call it that I was quoting US environmentalists who had a campaign against the Tar sands, did you forget? Society relies on many filthy dirty products. Is pork table ready right from the pen? Does gold come out of the ground nice and shiny? Would you be happy if someone poured a gallon of the finest Alberta Crude on your living room floor? (maybe it would be an improvement I dunno).

Yes critical analysis. Would Canada be better or worse of without providing financial incentives to major foreign investors hmmm. Lets look an countries that don't do that...hmm lets see Haiti...hmm not doing well huh. Not much industry...hmmmmm. Gee whiz, you know I can't find any cases of non-fucked up countries that don't offer financial incentives for major FDI. Hmm WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE FROM THIS!!!! HMMMMM...🤣😀👌

Lets see Windsor, pretty beat up., dying city, we can put a plant there, pros jobs, economic activity, infastructure revitalization, more money for all the strippers etc etc,. Con's -700m. Payback 3-5 years in tax revenues..
yawn
see post #341
 

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Wrong again
Kevin O'Leary arranged the meeting
And he does not do anything unless there is an advantage $ for him ( perhaps not the nicest guy in the world)
He has a multi billion dollar AI data center project he wants to build in Alberta
AI is extremely energy intensive
We shall see if he is able to succeed.
Both O'Leary and Smith were all smiles after the meeting.
she continues to promote working with the Americans to expand overall trade (for all of Canada) rather than get into a trade war we are sure to lose


Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,

Trump just with withdrew from the Paris Accord
The banks are dropping Carneys green finance alliance like its got a bad smell

I thought you would have figured it out by now using your supposed critical analysis skills
I left you more than enough clues
you are not very bright

now again why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
still insist Ottawa should treat Alberta like shit ?
Yes it was Kevin O'learys buddy who is the member, and the main agenda item was O'learys interest in purchasing Tik Tok NOT Alberta (yawnnn) Oil. Notice Trump gave assurances that he will grant an executive order to extend the deadline for Tik Tok to be sold. But said NOTHING about Alberta (yawn) oil. When he said DRILL BABY DRILL in his speech, did he mean AB? NOOOOOOOOOOO .lol.

No one is against working with the Americans, energy independence, how could that include Canada which is a foreign country? So what if Trump withdrew from the Paris accord? Heck even Carney is willing to AXE THE TAX it seems. Greentech has reahed critical mass, it will now proceed with market force. The job is done, the course is set and the outcome is now inevitable. The climate emergecy frenzy accelerated it by aboutr 25 years, Don't worry, when you enetually drive an EV you will think ..wow was I ever really effin dumb. lol.
 
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Yes it was Kevin O'learys buddy who is the member, and the main agenda item was O'learys interest in purchasing Tik Tok NOT Alberta (yawnnn) Oil. Notice Trump gave assurances that he will grant an executive order to extend the deadline for Tik Tok to be sold. But said NOTHING about Alberta (yawn) oil. When he said DRILL BABY DRILL in his speech, did he mean AB? NOOOOOOOOOOO .lol.

No one is against working with the Americans, energy independence, how could that include Canada which is a foreign country? So what if Trump withdrew from the Paris accord? Heck even Carney is willing to AXE THE TAX it seems. Greentech has reahed critical mass, it will now proceed with market force. The job is done, the course is set and the outcome is now inevitable. The climate emergecy frenzy accelerated it by aboutr 25 years, Don't worry, when you enetually drive an EV you will think ..wow was I ever really effin dumb. lol.
you have no idea what the agenda was and I do not know specifically either, however the clues are available

come on, use your your supposed critical analysis skills
the main agenda item was O'learys interest in purchasing Tik Tok NOT Alberta (yawnnn) Oil.
no need for D. Smith to be present to discuss TikTok

you still do not get it
Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly


stop being clueless - here are some more clues:
what is the arguably the most valuable natural resource asset in North America ?
Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors


He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly
(Trump repeats phrases- quite annoying to listen to.... quite annoying)
Both O'Leary and D. Smith were all smiles after the meeting

I thought you would have figured it out by now using your supposed critical analysis skills
I left you more than enough clues
you are not very bright

now again why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
still insist Ottawa should treat Alberta like shit ?
 

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you have no idea what the agenda was and I do not know specifically either, however the clues are available

come on, use your your supposed critical analysis skills


no need for D. Smith to be present to discuss TikTok

you still do not get it
Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly


stop being clueless - here are some more clues:
what is the arguably the most valuable natural resource asset in North America ?
Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors


He knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly
(Trump repeats phrases- quite annoying to listen to.... quite annoying)
Both O'Leary and D. Smith were all smiles after the meeting

I thought you would have figured it out by now using your supposed critical analysis skills
I left you more than enough clues
you are not very bright

now again why do you think D. Smith received an invite to mar-a-lago ?
still insist Ottawa should treat Alberta like shit ?
Danielle smith was riding O'learys coattails. And since she IS the premier of AB, Trump said, sure I will have a side bar with her. She does hold a significant office. Trump is bent outta shape 'cos Biden killed Keystone. Of course O'Leary was happy, he got Trump to agree to the Tik Tok extrension, which also is a good gesture for his future meeting with Xi. So O'Leary probably convinced him destorying a valuable Chinese company was not in anyones interest. Not a hard arguement to make as long as you can convince him you just need more time to line up the $. As for oil I am sure Smith did manage to prompt some questions from Trump to his team. So perhaps the exec orders were tweaked as a result. I am sure lots of voices from the Auto industry were also screaming quite loudly. I critically analyized your clues and concluded from the external data you are full of shit as usual lol.
 

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Jesus
He just claimed They do not need parliament to govern
we do not need parliament to reconvene

For the sake of stability of democracy.... we do not want to be held accountable

He does not seem to understand a very fundamental principle

A parliamentary democracy is a form of government where the head of government is accountable to the legislature and derives their power from the legislature's support.
The head of government, usually called the prime minister, must have the support of a majority of the legislature.
He does not have the support of a majority

The liberal party first, liberal party friends second , ... Canadians last
This is evil
How did you feel about it when Harper did the same thing?
 

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How did you feel about it when Harper did the same thing?
1. Harper's prorogation did not face a court challenge
so not the same thing

2. your fan boy hero made some major mistakes with his political maneuvering
He needs $ to strengthen the boarder as he promised Trump- something like $1.6 B CAD or some allocation of the amount he announced
Money that was not in the previous budget. so he needs to get parliament to approve this spending.
oh wait he shut down parliament

The Americans will ask what progress has been made on the boarder
"We were going implement the plan we outlined but can not get the funds to do so right away"
Yikes

We shall see how this plays out but his ready shoot, am planning might ensure 25% tariffs if no progress is made on the boarder
He is incredibly stupid

3. your fan boy hero Trudeau has used prorogation like a get out jail free card to get his ass out the scandal fire before
His 9 years in office have been nothing but scandals, too many to list

Do not bother trying to even up the scorecard by listing Harper's supposed scandals
Justin's list is just far too long
And there will be a lot of filthy dirty laundry that will see the light of day once the liberals are taken to the carbon tax election woodshed..... STDC, .....foreign interference etc. etc.
There is a lot of tax payer money that your liberals moved around, but do not want to account for and far too many redacted documents that will become unredacted.

That should be the straw that breaks the loyalty of most liberal fan boys.. not you though
 
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Danielle smith was riding O'learys coattails. And since she IS the premier of AB, Trump said, sure I will have a side bar with her. She does hold a significant office. Trump is bent outta shape 'cos Biden killed Keystone. Of course O'Leary was happy, he got Trump to agree to the Tik Tok extrension, which also is a good gesture for his future meeting with Xi. So O'Leary probably convinced him destorying a valuable Chinese company was not in anyones interest. Not a hard arguement to make as long as you can convince him you just need more time to line up the $. As for oil I am sure Smith did manage to prompt some questions from Trump to his team. So perhaps the exec orders were tweaked as a result. I am sure lots of voices from the Auto industry were also screaming quite loudly. I critically analyized your clues and concluded from the external data you are full of shit as usual lol.
Nope
Trump would need to approve of D. Smith's invite.
A politician from a foreign province? Of course he approved the invite

Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
A politician from a foreign province having the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world ? Of course he approved the invite

Trump hates Justin Trudeau, Smith is not a fan either
A politician from a foreign province who hate Trudeau ? Of course he approved the invite

Both O'Leary and D. Smith were all smiles after the meeting


Trump knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

Cant you imagine Trump saying exactly that to D. Smith ?
He always repeats part of his message
treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

D. Smith was not invited to discuss Tik Tok, do not be ridiculous
 
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Nope
Trump would need to approve of D. Smith's invite.
A politician from a foreign province? Of course he approved the invite

Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
A politician from a foreign province having the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world ? Of course he approved the invite

Trump hates Justin Trudeau, Smith is not a fan either
A politician from a foreign province who hate Trudeau ? Of course he approved the invite

Both O'Leary and D. Smith were all smiles after the meeting


Trump knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

Cant you imagine Trump saying exactly that to D. Smith ?
He always repeats part of his message
treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

D. Smith was not invited to discuss Tik Tok, do not be ridiculous
Sure of course he had to approve of it. But it was not like GET SMITH TO MAR DEL LARGO. Its was more like, I will take a meeting with her. Its possible Trump will agree to that traitorous cunt and grant a carve out, but I expect that won't stand with the Feds.

Yeah yeah, AB is the new Quebec, whine, bitch moan. They want every province to sacrifice their own objectives to move 7% of Canada s GDP. That is NOT a reasonable perspective. A good way to retaliate against tariffs is to pass a law enforcing supply managent on all oil companies that will put a base price on the oil and add a govt tariff on top of it as long as the US tariffs are in place. Oil companies would make as much, or more, and pressure would be exerted on the US. Win win. It will be like an intra canada OPEC.

As I said Trump cannot achive energy independance with foreign oil. Canadian oil is foreign oil
 

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1. Harper's prorogation did not face a court challenge
so not the same thing

2. your fan boy hero made some major mistakes with his political maneuvering
He needs $ to strengthen the boarder as he promised Trump- something like $1.6 B CAD or some allocation of the amount he announced
Money that was not in the previous budget. so he needs to get parliament to approve this spending.
oh wait he shut down parliament

The Americans will ask what progress has been made on the boarder
"We were going implement the plan we outlined but can not get the funds to do so right away"
Yikes

We shall see how this plays out but his ready shoot, am planning might ensure 25% tariffs if no progress is made on the boarder
He is incredibly stupid

3. your fan boy hero Trudeau has used prorogation like a get out jail free card to get his ass out the scandal fire before
His 9 years in office have been nothing but scandals, too many to list

Do not bother trying to even up the scorecard by listing Harper's supposed scandals
Justin's list is just far too long
And there will be a lot of filthy dirty laundry that will see the light of day once the liberals are taken to the carbon tax election woodshed..... STDC, .....foreign interference etc. etc.
There is a lot of tax payer money that your liberals moved around, but do not want to account for and far too many redacted documents that will become unredacted.

That should be the straw that breaks the loyalty of most liberal fan boys.. not you though
So no lawsuit was filed, and now one is. That does not all all change it. It only means someone decided to pose the question to the courts in this case, but the circumstances are very similar. Its funny how without a court ruling you somehow claim its different. Its not.
 

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Sure of course he had to approve of it. But it was not like GET SMITH TO MAR DEL LARGO. Its was more like, I will take a meeting with her. Its possible Trump will agree to that traitorous cunt and grant a carve out, but I expect that won't stand with the Feds.
god you are stunned
Trump very much wants energy independence from overseas bad actors
A politician from a foreign province having the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world ?
The 3rd largest oil reserve in the world, right next door

Yeah yeah, AB is the new Quebec, whine, bitch moan. They want every province to sacrifice their own objectives to move 7% of Canada s GDP.
Actually it sounds like you want Alberta is sacrifice next to all of is GDP
There is a whole lot more than 7% of GDP generateg by the oiland gas sector, directly and indrectly

That is NOT a reasonable perspective.
Killing an economic sector for a failed ideolgy is not reasonable

A good way to retaliate against tariffs is to pass a law enforcing supply managent on all oil companies that will put a base price on the oil and add a govt tariff on top of it as long as the US tariffs are in place. Oil companies would make as much, or more, and pressure would be exerted on the US. Win win. It will be like an intra canada OPEC.
god you are stunned
Supply management is likely specifically what the Americans will specifically target
Quebec Dairy, poultry, eggs and maple syrup for starters

The U.K walked away from a trade deal with Canada because trudeau would not budge on Supply Managment
Negotiators from the United Kingdom recently halted discussions about a new trade agreement with Canada, with U.K. negotiators walking away reportedly due to the Trudeau government’s reluctance to reform Canada’s system of supply management. Unfortunately, this means Canadians will continue to suffer from this antiquated system.
Canadians pay a lot in taxes and in addition they pay much more for food than US consumers
Food insecurity is a problem that grew during the Morons time as PM

As I said Trump cannot achive energy independance with foreign oil. Canadian oil is foreign oil
And each time you mention it you prove your ignorance

I did not say foreign
Canadian oil is not overseas oil . Look at a map if you do not understand this
Trump does not want to beholding to OPEC
Alberta has the 3rd largest oil reserve in ....... the world

Trump knows Trudeau has treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

Cant you imagine Trump saying exactly that to D. Smith ?
He always repeats part of his message
treated Alberta very poorly,.... very poorly

Still want to treat Alberta like shit?
You should change your handle to "bag of hammers'' if you are going to continue to put your lack of Critical Analysis skills on display.
 
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I remember a couple years ago, that some "experts" were predicting that Germany would be f%cked when they stop buying Russian oil and gas. It just didn't happen, they were able to find another source of energy, probably less efficient and more expensive, but they survived

Going back to Trump threats; if Canada uses oil as a weapon, surely it will hurt the USA for some time, but they will recover, they will find alternatives by buying it from somewhere else, less efficient, more expensive
in exchange, Canada will get a massive drop in income, and since most of pipelines go south, to special refineries designed for heavy oil, Canada might end losing its only customer and that is not something that will be recovered in decades
Of course new pipelines and new refineries can be built, but we are talking many years to have them in production.

So, I can see why the premier of Alberta is trying to de-escalate and/ or put export controls out of retaliation talks
 
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