Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

[JohnLarue]

Who said I support it.

well now finally an admission, the liberal lunatics targeted the oil industry for distruction

you have been a Trudeau fanboy and still are

you put your faith in corrupt people
its time to stop promoting their corrupt ideas

Tech is changing, there will be less demand for the commodity in the future.

do not be ridiculous
there are still billions of people who want to improve their standard of living in Asia and Africa
the very best thing for them and the environment is access for them to reliable inexpensive energy ... Fossil Fuels



you are delusional if you think this trend is going to abate
denying these people that access by UN decry or refusal of finance by decry is barbaric and evil

There have been massive fluctuation in price of the commodity in the not to distant past.

they are called economic cycles
the Canadian oil industry has weather them all and Albertans accept this the nature of the business
the Canadian oil industry / Alberta however can not tolerate the liberal party of Canada attacks and Alberta will not endure these attacks again (Carbon Tax Mark Carney)

Yet here you are saying oil is ABs past, present and future

.
what part of the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world is confusing you ?

I suspect you will need to be deprived of energy at some point in order for you to finally get it

The EV is a superior technology for the vast majority of people.

Until they need to recharge during a brown out

It will win just as ICE won over the steam engine.

Dead like disco

you think you are a visionary, but you also thought Justin Trudeau was a visionary for Canada
he turnout to be a disaster for Canada

you put your faith in corrupt people
its time to stop promoting their corrupt foolish ideas

 

[shack]

Warmer than 1300 A.D. ?

I remember that time and it is clearly warmer now.

 

[nottyboi]

well now finally an admission, the liberal lunatics targeted the oil industry for distruction

you have been a Trudeau fanboy and still are

you put your faith in corrupt people
its time to stop promoting their corrupt ideas



do not be ridiculous
there are still billions of people who want to improve their standard of living in Asia and Africa
the very best thing for them and the environment is access for them to reliable inexpensive energy ... Fossil Fuels

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you are delusional if you think this trend is going to abate
denying these people that access by UN decry or refusal of finance by decry is barbaric and evil


they are called economic cycles
the Canadian oil industry has weather them all and Albertans accept this the nature of the business
the Canadian oil industry / Alberta however can not tolerate the liberal party of Canada attacks and Alberta will not endure these attacks again (Carbon Tax Mark Carney)

.
what part of the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world is confusing you ?

I suspect you will need to be deprived of energy at some point in order for you to finally get it



Until they need to recharge during a brown out


Dead like disco

you think you are a visionary, but you also thought Justin Trudeau was a visionary for Canada
he turnout to be a disaster for Canada

you put your faith in corrupt people
its time to stop promoting their corrupt foolish ideas

No I said I don't support the destruction of the oil industry. You have some kinda crazed conspiracy theory, sorta like people in Israel say you want to destory Israel when you ask them to stop murdering Palestnian children. I don't really see how you can reconcile the claim the Libs wanna destory the oil industry with the massive investment in TMX, approval of LNG Canada, Bay du Nord and ongoing expansion and increase in oil production throughout the entire term of the Trudeau govt. Even the cleanups of the abandoned wells were subsidized when they should have been prosecuted. None of the data supports your crazed drunken theory.

Your charts are pointless. The one I posted is China, and they are leading in renewables. We are not growing as fast and have tons of NG so we will transiction more slowly. Yet even Alberta, home of vast oil and gas resources is deplying vast quantitis of wind power becuase it makes FINANCIAL SENSE.

 

[oil&gas]

Really, now trying to distract that you got the whole Norway versus Alberta segment all wrong?

If you want to go with Court cases for those who advocate the Climate change versus deniers, let' look closer to home.

These youngsters have more common sense than the Climate Change Deniers:
..............................................

Those climate lawsuit cases you cite wouldn''t have any impact
on the course of climate change or more precisely carbon emission
growth. It is also easier to win in climate lawsuit against the government
if no individuals among those in power are held liable to jail terms as the
losers won't bother to appeal the ruling. Do you think winning in an
accussation of Trudeau's role in growing the nation's carbon emission
in the last 10 years would land him in jail?

Our courts would side with the establishment where profit is at stake.
It is fine to grant attention-whoring youngsters victory in bogus climate
lawsuit. But to find out which side of the climate debate the status quo
is on here is a recent case that gives hint on the answer.

Shell wins appeal against order to cut emissions – DW – 11/12/2024

A Dutch court has upheld Shell's appeal against a 2021 verdict forcing it to almost halve oil and gas emissions by 2030.

www.dw.com

Shell wins landmark climate case against green groups in Dutch appeal

A court throws out a ruling that the gas and oil giant cut its greenhouse gas emissions.

www.bbc.com

 

[shack]

Newfoundlanders fly in to Grand Prairie and to Fort McMurray to work in the oil patch not to service the rig pigs.

But the women do. There's a lot of lonely guys out there.

 

[JohnLarue]

Joining in late to the discussion.

Not as much as Canada has sucked at the teat of Ontario, the country's economic driving force. Maybe we should tell the rest of the country to go fuck themselves.

if Ontario, is the country's economic driving force, why did Ontario receive equalization payments of 421 million in 2023-2024 ?

In 2021, equalization will cost Alberta taxpayers $2.9 billion. On average, equalization will cost each Alberta $650 this year. Albertans have received less than 0.02 per cent of all equalization payments.

2023 -2024 looks even worse

Quebec received $14,037 million in equalization payments in 2023-2024. In 2024-2025, Quebec is projected to receive $13,316 million in equalization payments

I could not find Quebec's total bribe , i mean equalization payments to date
No doubt is is too large an amount the completely transparent ( Ha Ha) Federal government prefers not to publish

Hmm a system designed by politicians / bureaucrats from Quebec perhaps ?

 

[JohnLarue]

No I said I don't support the destruction of the oil industry.

but you do support the liberal party ,did support Justin Trudeau and by extension the lunatic Gilbult and that evil snake Gerald Butts
same thing

You have some kinda crazed conspiracy theory, sorta like people in Israel say you want to destory Israel when you ask them to stop murdering Palestnian children

.

oh boy now your conflating that mess into this discussion ?
what is wrong with you

I don't really see how you can reconcile the claim the Libs wanna destory the oil industry with the massive investment in TMX, approval of LNG Canada, Bay du Nord and ongoing expansion and increase in oil production throughout the entire term of the Trudeau govt. Even the cleanups of the abandoned wells were subsidized when they should have been prosecuted. None of the data supports your crazed drunken theory.

one has to be an idiot / partisan fool not to have observed the efforts/ agenda of the liberal party to destroy the Canadian oil and gas industry
Germany, and Japan came begging for LNG from Canada
Trudeau said there was no business case, no discussion , no examination of the possibilities, just an immediate No
Meanwhile there is a very profitable and mutually beneficial business case the US jumped all over
And he killed 3 of 4 privately funded pipelines , painted himself into a corner and fixed his screwup with $34 B of taxpayer money
regulating the energy east pipeline be carbon neutral for upstream emissions is liberal speak for fuck you, .>>> rubber stamp no
DO NOT PRENTED KILLING THIS INDUSTRY WAS NOT AN AGENDA OF THE LIBERAL PARTY
who do you think you are fooling

Your charts are pointless. The one I posted is China, and they are leading in renewables

.
go live in China then
while the liberal party of Canada was systematically trying to destroy our FF industry China was building cola fire power plants at an astounding pace
As of July 2024, there were 1,161 operational coal power plants on the Chinese Mainland.

you are either completely ignorant of the facts or intentionally trying to mislead -stop that
china is powered by coal and its coal consumption is growing
if you squint you can see the sliver of renewables
and before you tout growth, big % growth of next to nothing is still next to nothing


All the billions of Canadian taxpayer money you so hap hazard want to toss at renewables are negated by Chinese communist coal consumption in a few short months

how ironic the loonie left socialist dreams are undone by the evil communists

Your charts are pointless.

no it is your charts which are intentionally deceptive
STOP THAT !

We are not growing as fast and have tons of NG so we will transiction more slowly.

There will not be a transition

Yet even Alberta, home of vast oil and gas resources is deplying vast quantitis of wind power becuase it makes FINANCIAL SENSE.

only when subsidized and the bird killers are wearing out much faster than the originally planed business subsidized cases

The net zero / green energy scam has been an absolute disaster for Canada and will haunt this country for many generations

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

I hear crying & jealousy given Alberta has the highest per capita income in Canada and just above Texas.

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This is only a butt-hurt for people obsessed with money. I wouldn't live in ass-backwards Alberta, no matter what kind of a salary you threw at me. Alberta is literally ranked 10th on my list of provinces I would want to live in, largely because the average Albertan is an asshole.

But hey, Alberta was the last province settled in Canada and its settlers were largely angry, repressed American ranchers looking for cheap land, so we should expect no less from that dump.

 

[JohnLarue]

No I said I don't support the destruction of the oil industry. You have some kinda crazed conspiracy theory, sorta like people in Israel say you want to destory Israel when you ask them to stop murdering Palestnian children. I don't really see how you can reconcile the claim the Libs wanna destory the oil industry with the massive investment in TMX, approval of LNG Canada, Bay du Nord and ongoing expansion and increase in oil production throughout the entire term of the Trudeau govt. Even the cleanups of the abandoned wells were subsidized when they should have been prosecuted. None of the data supports your crazed drunken theory.

Your charts are pointless. The one I posted is China, and they are leading in renewables. We are not growing as fast and have tons of NG so we will transiction more slowly. Yet even Alberta, home of vast oil and gas resources is deplying vast quantitis of wind power becuase it makes FINANCIAL SENSE.

here is 2:20 minute watch highlights the insanity of your view

 

[shack]

This is only a butt-hurt for people obsessed with money. I wouldn't live in ass-backwards Alberta, no matter what kind of a salary you threw at me. Alberta is literally ranked 10th on my list of provinces I would want to live in, largely because the average Albertan is an asshole.

But hey, Alberta was the last province settled in Canada and its settlers were largely angry, repressed American ranchers looking for cheap land, so we should expect no less from that dump.

"Think I'll go out to Alberta,
Weather's good there in the fall,
I got some friends, that I can go to workin' for"

 

[nottyboi]

here is 2:20 minute watch highlights the insanity of your view

Ok they are building a massive factory in WIndsor as a result of this money that will create jobs for a very long time (hopefully anyway) its better then the billions the govt had to shell out to close up oil and gas wells that the corrupt AB oil industry simply abandoned and left spewing toxins into the air. At leasts this supports positive development of Canadas economy, vs the govt having to shell out billions to remediate environmental damage by the oil industry and stop toxins from seeping out and poisoning Albertans. Were you againt the funding of orphan well decommishing by the Trudeau govt? Would it have been better to keep them spewing oil and sour gas? YUMMY!!!

Only a moron does not understand that line of questioning is a political ambush. The factory is still being built so asking how much carbon reduction it has yielded is idiotic and sucked up by people like you as proof of corruption. Its like asking how much oil TMX has moved 6m into the project. You need to start a 12 step program.

If you are worried about govts controlling carbon because its "life" don't . They already control water, transport and food. Would you prefer they didn't and you had to boil your water and when you eat food you have no idea if its gonna kill you? Do you like roads, instead of having to hack your way on dogsled or on muddy trails?

 

[bver_hunter]

Those climate lawsuit cases you cite wouldn''t have any impact
on the course of climate change or more precisely carbon emission
growth. It is also easier to win in climate lawsuit against the government
if no individuals among those in power are held liable to jail terms as the
losers won't bother to appeal the ruling. Do you think winning in an
accussation of Trudeau's role in growing the nation's carbon emission
in the last 10 years would land him in jail?

Our courts would side with the establishment where profit is at stake.
It is fine to grant attention-whoring youngsters victory in bogus climate
lawsuit. But to find out which side of the climate debate the status quo
is on here is a recent case that gives hint on the answer.

Shell wins appeal against order to cut emissions – DW – 11/12/2024

A Dutch court has upheld Shell's appeal against a 2021 verdict forcing it to almost halve oil and gas emissions by 2030.

www.dw.com

Shell wins landmark climate case against green groups in Dutch appeal

A court throws out a ruling that the gas and oil giant cut its greenhouse gas emissions.

www.bbc.com

So in other words it contradicts your presumption that the Climate Change Deniers are "winning all the Court battles"!!
All these court battles depend on the Constitution of different jurisdictions around the world!!
Thankfully, the Canadian Courts are not cozing up to these establishments that only have their profits as the top priority!!.
Otherwise why would these Oil Establishments have buried the In Depth Research of their 1980 Climate Change warnings?
The Climate Change Deniers will never discuss this fact!!
Once again we are seeing the impact of Climate Change around the Globe and these Youngsters know that their future is of real concern!!
Only the Climate Change Deniers want to keep to their lifestyle in these gas guzzling cars for the rest of their lives irrespective of the damage with these emissions!!

 

[bver_hunter]

I remember that time and it is clearly warmer now.

"Think I'll go out to Alberta,
Weather's good there in the fall,
I got some friends, that I can go to workin' for"

But at your age you should be clearly retired by now!!

 

[squeezer]

As usual, speculation from the righties. I do not OWN A TESLA and will never do so!!
Come on oracle, just be more professional in your comments and stop your allegations against others on this Board!!

Luckily you don't! Anyone who would trust buying a car from Elon is nuts. He is a grifter, just a very rich grifter who knows how to grift.


Tesla Just Announced “We’re Shutting Down”

 

[JohnLarue]

This is only a butt-hurt for people obsessed with money. I wouldn't live in ass-backwards Alberta, no matter what kind of a salary you threw at me. Alberta is literally ranked 10th on my list of provinces I would want to live in, largely because the average Albertan is an asshole.

Have you actually spent any time in Alberta or is your view strictly from Yonge and Bloor?

The people I have met in/ from Alberta are hard working, family and community orientated , friendly, fun loving adventurous types.
I also discovered it was astounding the number of Albertans who moved there from Ontario
Most will never even consider moving back..
When ever Eastern Canada comes in conversation, they are polite enough about it to me, but are genuinely very disappointed and hurt by how their province is treated by the Trudeau family and their own government.

Perhaps you may need to expand your circle of acquaintances

But hey, Alberta was the last province settled in Canada and its settlers were largely angry, repressed American ranchers looking for cheap land, so we should expect no less from that dump.

And what incentive did your forefathers have when they arrived here ?
A new opportunity perhaps ?

 

[JohnLarue]

Ok they are building a massive factory in WIndsor as a result of this money that will create jobs for a very long time (hopefully anyway) its better then the billions the govt had to shell out to close up oil and gas wells that the corrupt AB oil industry simply abandoned and left spewing toxins into the air. At leasts this supports positive development of Canadas economy, vs the govt having to shell out billions to remediate environmental damage by the oil industry and stop toxins from seeping out and poisoning Albertans. Were you againt the funding of orphan well decommishing by the Trudeau govt? Would it have been better to keep them spewing oil and sour gas? YUMMY!!!

Only a moron does not understand that line of questioning is a political ambush. The factory is still being built so asking how much carbon reduction it has yielded is idiotic and sucked up by people like you as proof of corruption. Its like asking how much oil TMX has moved 6m into the project. You need to start a 12 step program.

If you are worried about govts controlling carbon because its "life" don't . They already control water, transport and food. Would you prefer they didn't and you had to boil your water and when you eat food you have no idea if its gonna kill you? Do you like roads, instead of having to hack your way on dogsled or on muddy trails?

yawn

 

[oil&gas]

Climate deniers have won and would win thoses cases where and
when their interest are at stake. Steven Guilbeault I believe is still facing
climate lawsuits filed against Bay Du Nord. He and the government
would surely win and the oil drilling project would proceed to completion.

And I think I was saying climate deniers are like the bad guys
in pro-wrestling matches where they often defeat the good guys.
I had in my mind only climate cases of which outcome would be
consequential. With bogus climate lawsuits motivated by gaining
publicity the deniers are more likely to lose.

So in other words it contradicts your presumption that the Climate Change Deniers are "winning all the Court battles"!!
All these court battles depend on the Constitution of different jurisdictions around the world!!
Thankfully, the Canadian Courts are not cozing up to these establishments that only have their profits as the top priority!!.
Otherwise why would these Oil Establishments have buried the In Depth Research of their 1980 Climate Change warnings?
The Climate Change Deniers will never discuss this fact!!
Once again we are seeing the impact of Climate Change around the Globe and these Youngsters know that their future is of real concern!!
Only the Climate Change Deniers want to keep to their lifestyle in these gas guzzling cars for the rest of their lives irrespective of the damage with these emissions!!

 

[roddermac]

This is only a butt-hurt for people obsessed with money. I wouldn't live in ass-backwards Alberta, no matter what kind of a salary you threw at me. Alberta is literally ranked 10th on my list of provinces I would want to live in, largely because the average Albertan is an asshole.

But hey, Alberta was the last province settled in Canada and its settlers were largely angry, repressed American ranchers looking for cheap land, so we should expect no less from that dump.

I'm pretty sure most Canadian would rather live in Alberta than certain parts of the GTA. Not naming names Buuramptone.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

I'm pretty sure most Canadian would rather live in Alberta than certain parts of the GTA. Not naming names Buuramptone.

Admittedly, I've not set foot in Brampton in probably 20 years, but Brampton still places much higher on my list of places to live than Calgary. Just sayin'.

 

[shack]

But at your age you should be clearly retired by now!!

Which post gave it away?

The one that says I remember the 1300's or knowing an Ian Tyson song?