Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

[JohnLarue]

You act like the Trudeau govt are eco nazis and ignore shit like this:

eco warriors, eco Nazis , call them what you will
There is no denying they purposely and intentionally tried to kill the Canadian oil / gas industry

Putting a lunatic in charge of the environment file should tell you all you need to know

The Line 3 pipeline is an oil pipeline owned by the Canadian multinational Enbridge. Operating since 1968, it runs 1,031 miles (1,659 km) from Hardisty, Alberta, Canada to Superior, Wisconsin, United States.

how far is Superior, Wisconsin, United States from the refineries in Ont , Quebec and the Maritimes ?

you are incredibly short sighted in your supposed thinking

BTW 1,053 km to Toronto

Concerns about the safety of the pipeline led Enbridge to reduce its capacity. Over its history, the pipeline has been the source of millions of gallons of oil spills, including a 1991 oil spill in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, that was the worst inland oil spill in U.S. history.

Yet you wanted to ship 100 MM barrels across the country for a redundant fools "Strategic Oil Reserve" by rail

can you say Lac-Mégantic rail disaster ?

You really don'ty give a shit about pollution or the collateral effects of jobs and lives and environment destroyed by oil.

see post #239

The correct future for the oil industry in Canada is to accept that oil demand for fuel will decline and to pivot to petrochemicals.

no it will not
your grandkids will be using fossil fuels
you have no idea what you are talking about

Canada and Alberta should have a strategy to make Canada a world hub for petrochemicacl production instead of just digging it up and selling it.

Gee, too bad your fanboy hero Trudeau drove all the investment dollars out of Canada

 

[nottyboi]

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eco warriors, eco Nazis , call them what you will
There is no denying they purposely and intentionally tried to kill the Canadian oil / gas industry

Putting a lunatic in charge of the environment file should tell you all you need to know



how far is Superior, Wisconsin, United States from the refineries in Ont , Quebec and the Maritimes ?

you are incredibly short sighted in your supposed thinking

BTW 1,053 km to Toronto



Yet you wanted to ship 100 MM barrels across the country for a redundant fools "Strategic Oil Reserve" by rail

can you say Lac-Mégantic rail disaster ?


see post #239




no it will not
your grandkids will be using fossil fuels
you have no idea what you are talkin about


Gee, too bad your fanboy hero Trudeau drove all the investment dollars out of Canada

Trying to equate the risk of a one tme shipment of 100m bbls to 30 -50 years of tanker traffic thorough prestine waters with difficult currents and weather shows you cannot be taken seriously. Any twit can see the differnce. I guess though your alcoholic haze it somehow makes sense.
Enbridges pipeline practices worse in the USA then they are in Canada? Part of that goes though Canada so it does not matter the Feds have to regulate for ALL of Canada.

BTW you forget that the Feds do defend Line 5 and agree with the plan to make it safer.

 

[nottyboi]

since you are wrong just about all of the time
how funny would it be for Canada if EVs do not take over, AB separates and oil goes to $200 ?

Like him or not as president elect, Trumps time is currently in high demand by governors, senators, CEOs and heads of state

Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite ?
about the same population as Wisconsin and that governor likely did not get an invite
Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite ?

I am pretty confident in my position. Oil may go to 200 at some point, but its likely demand will peak then start to slide. But it will never be zero. Oil will always be a useful commodity. WIth no use in cars or trucks we will probablty still need 30-50m bbls a day globally

 

[mitchell76]

 

[JohnLarue]

Trying to equate the risk of a one tme shipment of 100m bbls to 30 -50 years of tanker traffic thorough prestine waters with difficult currents and weather shows you cannot be taken seriously. Any twit can see the differnce. I guess though your alcoholic haze it somehow makes sense.

try to equate the risk of assuming renewables would displace fossil fuels against the risks of having the very enviable position of having the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world

you/

it has become quite clear the renewable / EV clown show is going to fail and fail miserably

Enbridges pipeline practices worse in the USA then they are in Canada? Part of that goes though Canada so it does not matter the Feds have to regulate for ALL of Canada.

BTW you forget that the Feds do defend Line 5 and agree with the plan to make it safer.

god you are stupid
if you cut off western Canadian oil supply to the US, Trump will cut off oil supply to eastern Canada
You will be left freezing in the dark and assured of a unity crisis like you have never seen before.

Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite to Mar a Lago ?
about the same population as Wisconsin and that governor likely did not get an invite
Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite Mar a Lago ?

 

[bver_hunter]

Golly it takes whole wack carbon to make one of those there lithium-ion batteries Mr. Bver.

You should ditch the car really...Wait!...Do you own a Tesla?

Suddenly, it is all about my car? oracle, just stop your usual distraction and admit that we have the warmest Climate Change period in history!!

 

[JohnLarue]

I am pretty confident in my position. Oil may go to 200 at some point, but its likely demand will peak then start to slide. But it will never be zero. Oil will always be a useful commodity. WIth no use in cars or trucks we will probablty still need 30-50m bbls a day globally

Canada's four biggest banks leave climate alliance

BMO, National Bank, TD Bank Group and CIBC say they are no longer members of the Net-Zero Banking Alliance.

www.cp24.com

Canadian interest in EVs declines for second year in a row

Consumer consideration towards buying an electric vehicle has declined for the second consecutive year, according to J.D. Power’s 2024 Canada Electric Vehicle Consideration (EVC) Study. In a news release, the company said 11% of new vehicle shoppers in Canada noted they are “very likely” to...

canadianautodealer.ca

Canadian and Quebec EV rebates soon to run out of money!

gee too bad Justin spent all the money
its what he does

Like I said this will peak at about 20% new sales market penetration and then the infrastructure barrier will kick in, let alone the material requirements
Total autos on the road ????? 5-8% max

WIth no use in cars or trucks we will probablty still need 30-50m bbls a day globally

not a snowballs chance in hell
that is just plainly a stupid unrealistic statement

30 years of renewable nonsense and trillion + dollars later FF consumption has gone from 82% of global energy to 81.5% down marginally from 81.9% last year and the absolute consumption of FF has increased



you are living in a dream world

your grandkids will be filling up their cars with gasoline and snickering about what a damn fool grandpa was for promoting EVs as the future

dead like disco

 

[nottyboi]

Canada's four biggest banks leave climate alliance

BMO, National Bank, TD Bank Group and CIBC say they are no longer members of the Net-Zero Banking Alliance.

www.cp24.com

Canadian interest in EVs declines for second year in a row

Consumer consideration towards buying an electric vehicle has declined for the second consecutive year, according to J.D. Power’s 2024 Canada Electric Vehicle Consideration (EVC) Study. In a news release, the company said 11% of new vehicle shoppers in Canada noted they are “very likely” to...

canadianautodealer.ca

Canadian and Quebec EV rebates soon to run out of money!

gee to bad Justin spent all the money

Like I said this will peak at about 20% new sales market penetration and then the infrastructure barrier will kick in
Total autos on the road ? 5-8% max


not a snowballs chance in hell
30 years of renewable nonsense and trillion + dollars later FF consumption has gone from 82% of global energy to 81.5% down marginally from 81.9% last year and the absolute consumption of FF has increased

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you are living in a dream world

your grandkids will be filling up their cars with gasoline and snickering about what a damn fool grandpa was for promoting EVs as the future

dead like disco

Rebates are going because prices are coming down fast. You clearly have no experience with EVs, if you did you will understand why ICE cars simply will not be able to compete. If your Truck cost $120 to fill up in say 5 min, and and electric truck took 7 min and cost $12-20 where do you think things will end up? I have a free charger thats a nice 200m walk from my house. Have you heard of a free gas pump? What do you think is cheaper to make? An electric motor and differential or a 4 cyl turbo, 8 speed auto trans, differential,catalyst and exhaust? Which do you think is easier to package?

I try to think back 30 years and renewables were not really on the agenda. NG was the future then,. We only got rid of coal in Ontario just over 10 years ago. Look at trends in China for what will happen here are they are the leaders in green energy. It will take decades to transition the grid as it took hundreds of years to build it.

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/ce/xmvjnewkrvr/ChinaHalfYearOutputandEmissions.png

 

[The Oracle]

Suddenly, it is all about my car? oracle, just stop your usual distraction and admit that we have the warmest Climate Change period in history!!

You didn't answer the question...Do you own a Tesla?

 

[bver_hunter]

You didn't answer the question...Do you own a Tesla?

Why should you get into people's personal affairs.
Once again admit that you got the facts wrong about Climate Change and its impact on the weather!!

 

[The Oracle]

Why should you get into people's personal affairs.
Once again admit that you got the facts wrong about Climate Change and its impact on the weather!!

I'll take that as an admission that you own a Tesla, lol...You're on team Elon and by proxy the Trump train...LOLOL

 

[bver_hunter]

Real climate deniers are the ones taken to court in climate lawsuit
by those committed to fighting climate change.

Like pro-wrestling where the winners are usually the bad guys climate
deniers are also the winners in the court most of the time.

Norway’s Supreme Court dismisses claim based on the right to a healthy environment and allows new oil exploration in the Arctic | Universal Rights Group

www.universal-rights.org

Norway’s Supreme Court dismisses claim based on the right to a healthy environment and allows new oil exploration in the Arctic..............

Norway’s Supreme Court Makes Way for More Arctic Drilling (Published 2020)

The top court ruled against environmental groups Tuesday, saying the right to a clean environment did not bar the government from drilling for offshore oil.

www.nytimes.com

Groups appeal fed’s approval of Bay du Nord in court

Environment and Indigenous groups continue their legal challenge of Bay du Nord, a $16B oil and gas megaproject proposed off Newfoundland’s coast.

ecojustice.ca

Really, now trying to distract that you got the whole Norway versus Alberta segment all wrong?

If you want to go with Court cases for those who advocate the Climate change versus deniers, let' look closer to home.

These youngsters have more common sense than the Climate Change Deniers:

Court sides with youth in historic climate case against Ontario

Court sides with youth in historic climate case against Ontario

Seven Ontario youth are celebrating a landmark victory handed down by Ontario Court in historic climate case.

ecojustice.ca

.

Here are some others further away:

Climate activists end 2023 with major court wins

Lawsuits against the oil industry are poised to start in state court after wins for local governments that want petroleum companies to pay for climate

www.eenews.net

Why a string of court victories is raising hopes of climate advocates

Buoyed by several recent rulings, a growing number of countries and rights groups are going to court to compel fossil fuel companies, and others, to act on climate change.

www.unep.org

Judge sides with 16 activists in Montana climate case

They alleged the state’s pro-fossil fuel policies violated their right to a healthy environment.

www.bbc.com

from-ontario-to-montana-activists-are-suing-for-climate-justice-and-winning

 

[nottyboi]

try to equate the risk of assuming renewables would displace fossil fuels against the risks of having the very enviable position of having the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world

you/

it has become quite clear the renewable / EV clown show is going to fail and fail miserably




god you are stupid
if you cut off western Canadian oil supply to the US, Trump will cut off oil supply to eastern Canada
You will be left freezing in the dark and assured of a unity crisis like you have never seen before.

Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite to Mar a Lago ?
about the same population as Wisconsin and that governor likely did not get an invite
Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite Mar a Lago ?

there is little risk, no one is shutting off oil E&D, oil and gas production is still growing. BUT oil prices are being held high with sanctions and instabiliy Ask yourself what the oil price would be today if Iran, Venezuela, Libya, Iraq were all able to develop their hydrocarbons without US barriers? You would have at least another 3-5M bbl/day on the market and up to 10M bbl a day. So what would the oil price be?

 

[bver_hunter]

I'll take that as an admission that you own a Tesla, lol...You're on team Elon and by proxy the Trump train...LOLOL

As usual, speculation from the righties. I do not OWN A TESLA and will never do so!!
Come on oracle, just be more professional in your comments and stop your allegations against others on this Board!!

 

[JohnLarue]

Rebates are going because prices are coming down fast.

rebates are going away because Justin spent all the money

Like I said this will peak at about 20% new sales market penetration and then the infrastructure barrier will kick in, let alone the material requirements
Total autos on the road ????? 5-8% max

you do not have a clue what you are talking about
All levels of government and the consumer are loaded up with a mountain of debt in Canada
There is no $ available for a wholesale turn over of cars into EVs and not even close on the required infrastructure build out

Pierre P will cancel the EV mandates
Trump will too

Trudeaus irresponsible multi-billion $ battery plant bet will become another govt money pit



you are living in a dream world

your grandkids will be filling up their cars with gasoline and snickering about what a damn fool grandpa was for promoting EVs as the future

dead like disco

 

[nottyboi]

Really, now trying to distract that you got the whole Norway versus Alberta segment all wrong?

If you want to go with Court cases for those who advocate the Climate change versus deniers, let' look closer to home.

These youngsters have more common sense than the Climate Change Deniers:

Court sides with youth in historic climate case against Ontario

Court sides with youth in historic climate case against Ontario

Seven Ontario youth are celebrating a landmark victory handed down by Ontario Court in historic climate case.

ecojustice.ca

.

Here are some others further away:

Climate activists end 2023 with major court wins

Lawsuits against the oil industry are poised to start in state court after wins for local governments that want petroleum companies to pay for climate

www.eenews.net

Why a string of court victories is raising hopes of climate advocates

Buoyed by several recent rulings, a growing number of countries and rights groups are going to court to compel fossil fuel companies, and others, to act on climate change.

www.unep.org

Judge sides with 16 activists in Montana climate case

They alleged the state’s pro-fossil fuel policies violated their right to a healthy environment.

www.bbc.com

from-ontario-to-montana-activists-are-suing-for-climate-justice-and-winning

Just like tobacco. Once the causal link is fully accepted imagine what the bill will be, and Canadian oil companies will be at full speed with carbon capture and have a competitive advantage.

 

[JohnLarue]

there is little risk, no one is shutting off oil E&D, oil and gas production is still growing. BUT oil prices are being held high with sanctions and instabiliy Ask yourself what the oil price would be today if Iran, Venezuela, Libya, Iraq were all able to develop their hydrocarbons without US barriers? You would have at least another 3-5M bbl/day on the market and up to 10M bbl a day. So what would the oil price be?

when you find your thinking is aligned with this lunatic, it is time to snap out of it




snap out of it
there is a real world out there
your unicorn thinking is comical

 

[nottyboi]

FYI its less then 65 now

 

[nottyboi]

when you find your thinking is aligned with this lunatic, it is time to snap out of it


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snap out of it
there is a real world out there
your unicorn thinking is comical

SInce when this picture was taken to now the share of EVs has grown how many fold? 1500% maybe? and the trajectory is getting shallower or steeper? So what would be the oil price without US barriers. Maybe Trump is right, the oil price without US attacks would be 30-40 a bbl which kinda makes sense that the Don wants his 25% vig to artifically inflate the prices.

 

[JohnLarue]

Just like tobacco. Once the causal link is fully accepted imagine what the bill will be, and Canadian oil companies will be at full speed with carbon capture and have a competitive advantage.

when you buy into propaganda mascaraing as science you are at a competitive disadvantage
courts do not verify or nullify scientific discovery

the casual link will not be fully accepted
you do not seem to understand that the public is getting tired of this nonsense
the back door pathway to global socialism (climate alarmism) has failed and failed miserably

the science does not support the hypothesis