Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

bver_hunter

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You didn't answer the skill testing question though...Do you drive a car?

Yes or no?
Yes, an Electric Car. So what is your point? :rolleyes:
 

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BAHAHAHAHA!

Danielle Smith’s attempt to sell out Canada to Trump was such a MASSIVE failure that she’s NOT invited to his indoor inauguration in DC!

Now she wants to watch it from the Canadian Embassy? That’s for Team Canada.

Go watch at Mar-a-Lago, traitor

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Why, only 2 were required to receive your vaccine pass and I had an extra one for good measures. I did my part, unlike you and Rod. Now please, change the topic. I don't want Rod to snap. You know how he gets when COVID is brought up. Shhhhhhh
Geez Health Canada and Theresa were recommending that you get all of your shots.

That's completely against what you were preaching on here...Shocking I say...just shocking...LOL.
 
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JohnLarue

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Well oil companies receive tax incentives don't they? There are many reasons to give EVs tax incentives, one being that with 2 way charge ports they can be used to stabilize the power grid.
once again you put your ignorance on full display

All Canadian companies receive Capital cost allowance tax deductions for investing capital in equipment, software, mineral rights, oil land leases, farming equipment, automobiles furniture etc. to grow the business
it is applied against taxable income
it is in the tax code to promote economic growth

oil companies pay billions to the Federal and Provincial in royalties.
even if the company loses money, the royalties are still due
and then they corporate taxes on top of that ... if they are profitable

Capital cost allowance tax deductions are entirely different than the govt subsidizing the purchase of an uneconomical product
 

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Climate deniers are the ones that cannot accept the affects of Climate Change that have impacted several countries around the Globe. 2024 is now the warmest temperature on record and we have seen the warmup in the last few years rather than the "cyclical" theory from the Climate Change deniers!!
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Real climate deniers are the ones taken to court in climate lawsuit
by those committed to fighting climate change.

Like pro-wrestling where the winners are usually the bad guys climate
deniers are also the winners in the court most of the time.

Norway’s Supreme Court dismisses claim based on the right to a healthy environment and allows new oil exploration in the Arctic..............


 
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JohnLarue

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In 2023, the Canadian government provided at least $18.553 billion in financial support to the fossil fuel and petrochemical industries. This includes:

  • $8 billion in loan guarantees for the Trans Mountain pipeline
  • $7.339 billion in public financing through Export Development Canada
  • Over $1.3 billion for carbon capture and storage projects
orphan well clean up program

Too funny
$8B in loan guarantees on a pipeline they had to by for $4.5B that eventual cost more than $34 B of taxpayer money..
Did you want to know why they paid $4.5 B - because they had made the business environment so terrible via regulation no private company would touch it . Kinder Morgan's shareowners grabbed that $4.5 B and ran way as fast as they could

$7.339 billion in public financing through Export Development Canada
nice try, EDC did not spend $8 B of govt money on oil , they just facilitate payment guarantees for exported products

Over $1.3 billion for carbon capture and storage projects
projects they mandated

meanwhile

In 2022, Canada's oil and gas industry paid $34 billion in royalties to provincial governments. This is a significant source of revenue for both federal and provincial governments
$34 Billion directly in govt coffers to spend on Hospitals, health care, roads and the social safety net the loonie lefties cherish so much, but will bitch and complain when they lose them

trying to kill this cash cow is so stupid
 

JohnLarue

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Real climate deniers are the ones taken to court in climate lawsuit
by those committed to fighting climate change.

Like pro-wrestling where the winners are usually the bad guys climate
deniers are also the winners in the court most of the time.
they prefer to be called skeptics
i guess you did not stop to think the reason they win in court so often is because they are rational and right ?
you do not see many climate skeptics gluing themselves to the payment or destroying priceless art now do you?

who believes an irrational uninformed lunatic ?
 

JohnLarue

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Danielle Smith’s attempt to sell out Canada to Trump was such a MASSIVE failure that she’s NOT invited to his indoor inauguration in DC!
Now despite what you think of Trump you will have to concede now that he is president elect , his time will be at a premium , with governors senators , CEOs and all sorts of diplomates / heads of states requesting some of his time. correct ?
again independent of what you personally think of him you will have to concede any president elect Trump, Bide, Bush, Obama, Clinton etc. etc. all had lots of people asking to see them when they were president elect , correct ?
Hundreds , maybe thousands correct ? (again , independent of what you personally think of him).

Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite ?
about the same population as Wisconsin and that governor likely did not get an invite
Why do you think a premier of a foreign province with less than 5 million people received an invite ?
 
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there wre 4 privately funded pipelines ready to go when the moron came to power
he killed three and overpaid for the fourth because he had painted himself into a corner
like all things govt, a 4.5B pipeline turned into a 34 B taxpayer money pit

any you think this is an accomplishment
every thing he touches turns to shit, really expensive shit

energy east would have given Canada leverage over Trump
The moron killed that
he is unbelievably stupid
whether it was a good investment is not the point., but it destroys your point that Trudeau wanted to kill the oil business.
 

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whether it was a good investment is not the point., but it destroys your point that Trudeau wanted to kill the oil business.
Are you saying Trudeau and Guilbeault didn't truly intend the oil industry
and the rest of Canada to attain zero emission by 2050? I thought Guilbeault
was serious about reinforcement of the 35% emission cap for Alberta
oilsands production by 2030.

And correct me if I am wrong, To the best of my knowledge other sectors
like aviation is not subject to similar emission cap demand.

Trudeau and his Liberals would not want to kill the oil business entirely.
They need the oil royalties to fund spending. The Liberals even promoted
and approved deep water drilling in Newfoundland. But according to Guilbeaut
Bay Du Nord was approved on the condition of zero-emission by 2050.
 
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JohnLarue

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whether it was a good investment is not the point., but it destroys your point that Trudeau wanted to kill the oil business.
no it does not
he painted himself into a corner and had to buy it
buying that pipeline was never in the original Gerald Butts plan,.

he did not care about the price, its other peoples money

you are being completely disingenuous if you claim he , Butts and the lunatic Guilbeault did not want to kill the industry
 
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shack

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I also note that she's telling the ROC to go pound sand for any retaliatory measures against the US that will hurt oil and gas sales. Good for her. Canada has for too long sucked the teet of Alberta's oil wealth while at the same time demeaning them.
Joining in late to the discussion.

Not as much as Canada has sucked at the teat of Ontario, the country's economic driving force. Maybe we should tell the rest of the country to go fuck themselves.
 

JohnLarue

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Do you think that governing by spite is a good strategy?
do you think intentional trying to destroy a provinces economic engine and governments cash cow is a good strategy ?
good governess ? WTF
particularly when your number one responsibility is to ensure the country's unity ?

in fact intentional trying to destroy a provinces economic engine is likely the optimal strategy if you wanted to destroy unity

Justin Trudeau has never understood the responsibilities of his office
the results speak for themselves - a complete and undeniable disaster
 
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JohnLarue

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Are you saying Trudeau and Guilbeault didn't truly intend the oil industry
and the rest of Canada to attain zero emission by 2050? I thought Guilbeault
was serious about reinforcement of the 35% emission cap for Alberta
oilsands production by 2030.

And correct me if I am wrong, To the best of my knowledge other sectors
like aviation is not subject to similar emission cap demand.

Trudeau and his Liberals would not want to kill the oil business entirely.
They need the oil royalties to fund spending. The Liberals even promoted
and approved deep water drilling in Newfoundland. But according to Guilbeaut
Bay Du Nord was approved on the condition of zero-emission by 2050.
every single decision Trudeau and his sycophants have made has an overlaying political objective - to retain power

Environment Minister McKenna refuses to assess Cement Plant with One Megaton GHG emissions - Nature Canada

Alberta is punished by the corupt liberals ...... because they do not have enough voters to bribe
 
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Does this surprise anyone? She did not even attend the meeting joined remotely from Panama. What a traitor!! She is probably trying to buy the Canal for her master Trump
Alberta remembers Pierre Trudeau’s energy export taxes, even if you don’t. When Alberta sends billions every year to Atlantic Canada and Quebec, they have a say in anything that could ruin that province’s economy.
Traitors? Close to 50% of Quebeckers want to separate, why are they at this table?
 
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