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Covid-19 most likely came from a lab leak,,,,,,,,,duh

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yes, many internet comments are stupid.

LOL...All these left wing media outlets spreading this natural origin theory .

So they're moving off horseshoe bats now?
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Strange that people interested in science follow where the evidence leads.



All of the covid deniers who have been obsessively pushing the lab leak hypothesis keep claiming that we should be searching for more evidence. Strange that they're suddenly upset when more evidence comes out.
 

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yes, many internet comments are stupid.


Strange that people interested in science follow where the evidence leads.



All of the covid deniers who have been obsessively pushing the lab leak hypothesis keep claiming that we should be searching for more evidence. Strange that they're suddenly upset when more evidence comes out.
Covid deniers,lol.......Nice phraseology....

Your science seems to be impeded by that government that the right honourable Justin Trudeau admires so much.
 

Valcazar

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He is an ideologue. They do not vacate their original position, ever. But, I'm glad that bats are off the hook. 😆
LOL.
I'm here pointing to actual science and research, looking at the evidence and discussing what it would take to change my views and so on - while you all double down and refuse to listen to anything and accuse me of being an ideologue who won't vacate my original position.

It's really kind of hilarious.

China is a left-wing commie country.
Thats why the Lefties are so deep in denial, they dont wanna be seen as accusing their own kind.
If that virus had escaped near Trump tower in NYC they'd be all over that
I mean look here.
I am accusing China of a cover up, and Phil is out here saying I'm defending China and babbling about New York.

If I was so ideologically driven to blame Trump, don't you think I would be backing the "military exercises" story that would allow it to be Trump's fault ?
 
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Valcazar

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LOL...All these left wing media outlets spreading this natural origin theory .
I keep forgetting scientific papers are "left wing" now.

So they're moving off horseshoe bats now?
You don't bother to read things, do you?

Also this virus seems to be particularly adapted to be spread amongst humans where most viruses are not. This virus has a receptor binding domain on its spike gene which is well adapted to the human ace two receptor on our cells. Not very well adapted to other species receptors. It has what is called a furin cleavage site. This is why it spread so quickly. Without this it would have been fairly easy to control. Western virologists thought at first that it was engineered. Then the Chinese announced that they had found the virus in a pangolin that was 99 % similar. Eureka case closed the intermediate animal is found..Except that the published data showed this pangolin virus it didn't have the furin cleavage site and that there were no pangolins on sale in wuhan. So that couldn't have explained how the outbreak occurred in Wuhan. Project defuse tells us that Peter Daszak of the World Health Alliance was working with the lab in Wuhan experimenting with inserting a furin cleavage site into a bat virus. The Chinese have of course reused to reveal the contents of their data base with over 22k entries on viruses affecting wildlife. About 15k related to bats. So far there have been no affected animals found. No evidence of previous infected people in blood banks. Nobody who looks like an indexed case. 80k animals tested at the outbreak and not one was infected.
LOL. Amazing.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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I am accusing China of a cover up, and Phil is out here saying I'm defending China
I didnt mention you personally, but you do sound kinda guilty when you respond like this
 
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Valcazar

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Sounds like you are herxing......stay the course keep reading the truth will be your cure.
I'm gonna give you props for a good metaphor in context.
Unexpected.
Well done.

I didnt mention you personally, but you do sound kinda guilty when you respond like this
Phil, you ain't that slick.
We both know damn well I am included in your "lefties" group.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Phil, you ain't that slick.
We both know damn well I am included in your "lefties" group
So if you're accusing China of a coverup, are you finally coming around that this is most likely a lab leak??
Why else would China feel the need to cover things up??
 

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So if you're accusing China of a coverup, are you finally coming around that this is most likely a lab leak??
Hey Phil, off topic but can you explain why the model in your pic wears a mask around her lickzone?

If masks don't work, why is she wearing one and it's only a cloth one FFS?

 

Valcazar

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So if you're accusing China of a coverup, are you finally coming around that this is most likely a lab leak??
Why else would China feel the need to cover things up??
They covered up the illegal activity at the wet market.
Try to keep up.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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They covered up the illegal activity at the wet market.
Try to keep up
Well at least you're admitting China is guilty of coverups, period. Thats a good start.
Now we just have to get you to admit they would also cover up a lab leak (y)
 

Valcazar

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Well at least you're admitting China is guilty of coverups, period. Thats a good start.
Now we just have to get you to admit they would also cover up a lab leak (y)
Of course they would also cover up a lab leak.
I've never denied that.
 

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Covid deniers,lol.......Nice phraseology....

Your science seems to be impeded by that government that the right honourable Justin Trudeau admires so much.
So you have no comment on the scientific study of the covid genome that shows a heavy contribution of racoon dogs and simply want to whine that Trudeau got elected?
 
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Well at least you're admitting China is guilty of coverups, period. Thats a good start.
Now we just have to get you to admit they would also cover up a lab leak (y)
Now we wait for evidence that makes the lab leak hypothesis more likely than what the evidence supports.
 
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Valcazar

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Now we wait for evidence that makes the lab leak hypothesis more likely than what the evidence supports.
It baffles me that he thinks this is some kind of gotcha or progress as opposed to the position I've had from the beginning.
 

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The timeline doesn't add up for their racoon dog red herring.

But for some unknown reason the left is just chowing down on anything that the CCP is dishing to them.

Why isn't there a push for the Wuhan lab to release information on how and when their employees got sick?

Or what specifically they were working on there. How about letting journalists interview those that were employed there at the time.

The CCP will never cooperate with this.......There's no doubt in anybodies rational mind that Trump was right from the start. This was a lableak....
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Now we wait for evidence that makes the lab leak hypothesis more likely than what the evidence supports
I doubt we'lll ever see it. China is not gonna let anyone inside their lab.
Plus whatever evidence was there will have been cleaned out, and any employees responsible will have been reassigned somewhere else.
Chinese are not stupid. No way will they ever take responsibility for all this.

I do not however think this was an intentional release.
I think it was just a careless lab accident that got totally out of hand
 
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