Covid-19 most likely came from a lab leak,,,,,,,,,duh

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They're still spouting the Trump said to inject bleach BS I see as well. Which of course he never did.

But I guess if you repeat it enough you begin to believe it though.....
Listen carefully and look at Dr. Birx's face as she's fighting herself to not call him a fucking stupid idiot. After you watched it, do yourself a favor and edit your post. LMFAO

 

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That's because you weren't looking. Got to keep an open mind, buddy.
I think the word you are looking for is coincidence, not evidence Yes, we both had an opinion back when Trump was running his gums. Since then, you've stuck with your opinion because it is your opinion and I have been reading the science for evidence to see if there is a reason to change my view.

Based on the publicly available evidence, zoonotic transfer in the area of the market is more likely. If some FOI request or FBI publication releases the basis they use to make their low confidence claim, I'll happily reassess but I'm not going to do so simply because there's a lab 30 km away from the market.
 
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Listen carefully and look at Dr. Birx's face as she's fighting herself to not call him a fucking stupid idiot. After you watched it, do yourself a favor and edit your post. LMFAO

Didn't say bleach did he....Talking about ultraviolet light mostly.

And he's throwing out ideas which he says they are going to look into.

So no I'm not editing my post....Next..
 

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Didn't say bleach did he....Talking about ultraviolet light mostly.

And he's throwing out ideas which he says they are going to look into.

So no I'm not editing my post....Next..
I tried to help you but go ahead, Easter is around the corner so standing up for a butterball is fitting, I guess. That is if you have Turkey for Easter.
 

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Question for those who got the jab, how do you feel about Pfizer admitting it doesn't prevent transmission when you were told by the scientists and political leaders that it would?
I'm not holding my breath for replies, but non-answers will also be very insightful as well since you all seem to have something to say, but will you share your thoughts on this?
 

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Question for those who got the jab, how do you feel about Pfizer admitting it doesn't prevent transmission when you were told by the scientists and political leaders that it would?
I'm not holding my breath for replies, but non-answers will also be very insightful as well since you all seem to have something to say, but will you share your thoughts on this?
The Covidians will say some nonsense about evolving science and all that crap.
 
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I think the word you are looking for is coincidence, not evidence Yes, we both had an opinion back when Trump was running his gums. Since then, you've stuck with your opinion because it is your opinion and I have been reading the science for evidence to see if there is a reason to change my view.

Based on the publicly available evidence, zoonotic transfer in the area of the market is more likely. If some FOI request or FBI publication releases the basis they use to make their low confidence cl

aim, I'll happily reassess but I'm not going to do so simply because there's a lab 30 km away from the market.
What evidence did you have in 2020 to dismiss the lab leak theory? Oh, right, NOTHING!

Here, a trip down the memory lane.

 

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Question for those who got the jab, how do you feel about Pfizer admitting it doesn't prevent transmission when you were told by the scientists and political leaders that it would?
I'm not holding my breath for replies, but non-answers will also be very insightful as well since you all seem to have something to say, but will you share your thoughts on this?
I've gotten 4 jabs and loving it.


 

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Yep..The promises of diminished covid transmission never came to fruition.

Of course the Covidians still believe in vaccines for everyone at all levels, lol.

I think we all know that the U.S. government talked to social media companies to suppress information coming out about the vaccines efficiency or lack thereof. They didn't want to discourage vaccination and especially of children. They didn't want any criticism of the vaccines because they didn't want to stall any political momentum for childhood vaccine mandates. Which of course were never needed.
 
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Yep..The promises of diminished covid transmission never came to fruition.

Of course the Covidians still believe in vaccines for everyone at all levels, lol.

I think we all know that the U.S. government talked to social media companies to suppress information coming out about the vaccines efficiency or lack thereof. They didn't want to discourage vaccination and especially of children. They didn't want any criticism of the vaccines because they didn't want to stall any political momentum for childhood vaccine mandates. Which of course were never needed.
Do yourself a favor and see #1864 of the Joe Rogan Experience with Alex Berenson.
 

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Question for those who got the jab, how do you feel about Pfizer admitting it doesn't prevent transmission when you were told by the scientists and political leaders that it would?
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I feel the exact same as I do about every other vaccine. You might have only read headlines but actual descriptions but every scientific description explicitly said REDUCE the risk of infection.
 
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What evidence did you have in 2020 to dismiss the lab leak theory? Oh, right, NOTHING!
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Do you not know the way logic works? As I said, you're claiming Bigfoot exists. Maybe it does but you're rightfully ignored if you run around claiming it without something more than coincidences.

The zoonotic explanation is not proven but at the time of Trumps mumbling, we knew the outbreak centred on the market where all kinds of live animals were and we know that many viruses jump to humans through close contacts with animals. That's far more convincing that the fact that there was a lab 30 km away across the city.

I've been clear that if ACTUAL evidence of a lab leak that somehow didn't cause an outbreak until near the market, I'll listen and will have no problem changing my conclusion.
 
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Yep..The promises of diminished covid transmission never came to fruition.
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Yet places like China where they either didn't push vaccines or shitty homegrown ones had so much more of a problem.

I know you like twitter as a news source but I'll stick with actual studdies.


You want more?
 

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Do you not know the way logic works? As I said, you're claiming Bigfoot exists. Maybe it does but you're rightfully ignored if you run around claiming it without something more than coincidences.

The zoonotic explanation is not proven but at the time of Trumps mumbling, we knew the outbreak centred on the market where all kinds of live animals were and we know that many viruses jump to humans through close contacts with animals. That's far more convincing that the fact that there was a lab 30 km away across the city.

I've been clear that if ACTUAL evidence of a lab leak that somehow didn't cause an outbreak until near the market, I'll listen and will have no problem changing my conclusion.
Actually, you knew nothing except what China allowed you to know- which is nothing, too.
 

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I feel the exact same as I do about every other vaccine. You might have only read headlines but actual descriptions but every scientific description explicitly said REDUCE the risk of infection.
I didn't just read headlines. But you have to admit it was eye opening when the Pfizer executive said they didn't test for tranmission, meanwhile all the experts you no doubt listened to told you it did.
 
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I didn't just read headlines. But you have to admit it was eye opening when the Pfizer executive said they didn't test for tranmission, meanwhile all the experts you no doubt listened to told you it did.
Did you bother looking at any of the studies I posted or are you simply buying the propaganda the anti-science crowd put out?
 
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