Climate Change

[JohnLarue]

You need to admit that the climate is way too hard for you to understand but also admit that there may be smarter people than you that can understand it.
Just because you can't doesn't mean that others can't as well.

Ocean temps have risen drastically, climate change is the reason. How many Hiroshimas worth of heat do you think we are putting in the ocean now every second now?

just another in a long line of scaremongering propaganda lies alarmists use
polar bear extinction
ocean acidification
coral bleaching
droughts / floods
wild fires
more / less snow
extreme weather events
global boiling
crop failure

all broken hockey sticks

the con has not worked

 

[Frankfooter]

just another in a long line of scaremongering propaganda lies alarmists use
polar bear extinction
ocean acidification
coral bleaching
droughts / floods
wild fires
more / less snow
extreme weather events
global boiling
crop failure

all broken hockey sticks

the con has not worked

The planet warmed 1.5ºC last year.
As the IPCC and all of science has warned.

Its moronic to claim this isn't happening and its not a big deal.
Its even more moronic to claim this very measurable and proven warming is a 'con'.
Its actually evil to back what you once said would be the greatest crime against humanity if it were true after all your claims have evaporated.

 

[Frankfooter]

you do not seem to understand that ice @ -57°C is still going to be ice if temperatures were to increase a degree or two or even by 56°C

Do you understand that the risk lies in the transition area between antarctic glaciers and the ocean?
We are not talking about melt in the interior of the antarctic.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762805292994101681

 

[roddermac]

water temperature and evaporation/ condensation/ precipitation are but a few of the many factors that could influence sea levels,
erosion, sedimentation (on the ocean floor / run off from rivers) upheaval, sinking land masses, the lunar cycle. That's a Biggy!
obviously currents
ocean volcanic activity. The total number of submarine volcanoes is estimated to be over one million (most are now extinct) of which some 75,000 rise more than 1 kilometer (0.62 mi) above the seabed.
and glacier run off. We are still emerging from an ice age.

The oceans are vast (2/3 of the planet), they are deep and complex.
believing a colorless, odorless inert gas measured in part per million can drive catastrophic sea level rise is comical

like climate, there is a chaotic component which makes modelling future states next to impossible

Yet the "SCIENCE" said that climate change is causing sea levels to rise which I have yet to see. Now you're saying it's impossible to know what would be the cause but you pointed out several factors and none of them have to do with emissions.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet the "SCIENCE" said that climate change is causing sea levels to rise which I have yet to see. Now you're saying it's impossible to know what would be the cause but you pointed out several factors and none of them have to do with emissions.

NASA says sea levels have risen about 10cm.
You say you can't see that?

Sea Level | NASA Global Climate Change

Vital Signs of the Planet: Global Climate Change and Global Warming. Current news and data streams about global warming and climate change from NASA.

climate.nasa.gov

 

[roddermac]

NASA says sea levels have risen about 10cm.
You say you can't see that?

Sea Level | NASA Global Climate Change

Vital Signs of the Planet: Global Climate Change and Global Warming. Current news and data streams about global warming and climate change from NASA.

climate.nasa.gov

Okay did they mention the cause.,

 

[JohnLarue]

The planet warmed 1.5ºC last year.
As the IPCC and all of science has warned.

Its moronic to claim this isn't happening and its not a big deal.
Its even more moronic to claim this very measurable and proven warming is a 'con'.
Its actually evil to back what you once said would be the greatest crime against humanity if it were true after all your claims have evaporated.

just another in a long line of scaremongering propaganda lies alarmists use
polar bear extinction
ocean acidification
coral bleaching
droughts / floods
wild fires
more / less snow
extreme weather events
global boiling
crop failure

all broken hockey sticks

the con has not worked

 

[JohnLarue]

Yet the "SCIENCE" said that climate change is causing sea levels to rise which I have yet to see. Now you're saying it's impossible to know what would be the cause but you pointed out several factors and none of them have to do with emissions.

sea levels have risen and fallen many times before mankind created the internal combustion engine

i suspect they will rise and fall many times long after man is gone

sadly science and specifically climate science has been polluted by agenda driven fanatics,/ alarmists, who view science as a tool to be exploited.
real science is completely unbiased / and completely objective

one only needs to read some of Frank footers posts to know he is not anywhere close to unbiased / and completely objective.
the other issue is Frank footers is obviously lacking in scientific understanding
dropping out of high school to join a union will do that to you

 

[Frankfooter]

just another in a long line of scaremongering propaganda lies alarmists use
polar bear extinction
ocean acidification
coral bleaching
droughts / floods
wild fires
more / less snow
extreme weather events
global boiling
crop failure

all broken hockey sticks

the con has not worked

You listed all the extreme events that were predicted to happen and have been happening.
Which proves climate change is ongoing and already the effects are severe.

You don't deny that the planet has warmed about 1.5ºC yet are still arguing that the planet isn't warming.
Your posts show that you know you are wrong.

 

[Frankfooter]

sea levels have risen and fallen many times before mankind created the internal combustion engine

i suspect they will rise and fall many times long after man is gone

sadly science and specifically climate science has been polluted by agenda driven fanatics,/ alarmists, who view science as a tool to be exploited.
real science is completely unbiased / and completely objective

one only needs to read some of Frank footers posts to know he is not anywhere close to unbiased / and completely objective.
the other issue is Frank footers is obviously lacking in scientific understanding
dropping out of high school to join a union will do that to you

Please show us when the planet has warmed 1.5ºC in less than 100 years.
Please also show us when the oceans have risen 10cm in less than 100 years.

Detail the times this happened.
This should be so easy for someone so smart and well informed on his subject.

 

[roddermac]

You listed all the extreme events that were predicted to happen and have been happening.
Which proves climate change is ongoing and already the effects are severe.

You don't deny that the planet has warmed about 1.5ºC yet are still arguing that the planet isn't warming.
Your posts show that you know you are wrong.

I never denied climate change. I just don't believe driving my car or eating a burger is the cause of it. The earth's climate has always been a little out of wack. That will never change. Eventually it will burn out. Not in our lifetime but it will.

 

[roddermac]

Please show us when the planet has warmed 1.5ºC in less than 100 years.
Please also show us when the oceans have risen 10cm in less than 100 years.

Detail the times this happened.
This should be so easy for someone so smart and well informed on his subject.

You really believe the past 100 years is the bench mark for the earth's billion year history on climate.. Global warming has happened in the past. We just weren't here to experience it.

 

[roddermac]

You listed all the extreme events that were predicted to happen and have been happening.
Which proves climate change is ongoing and already the effects are severe.

You don't deny that the planet has warmed about 1.5ºC yet are still arguing that the planet isn't warming.
Your posts show that you know you are wrong.

Those events have happened before gas engines. We have the technology to predict the weather. Yes the meteorologist do get is wrong sometimes and by the way they are scientists as well. But we can predict it.

 

[Frankfooter]

I never denied climate change. I just don't believe driving my car or eating a burger is the cause of it. The earth's climate has always been a little out of wack. That will never change. Eventually it will burn out. Not in our lifetime but it will.

That's denying anthropomorphic climate change.
That makes you a climate change denier.

 

[Frankfooter]

You really believe the past 100 years is the bench mark for the earth's billion year history on climate.. Global warming has happened in the past. We just weren't here to experience it.

Sure, but the only times the climate changed this fast before was because of an asteroid or super volcano.
It has never changed this quickly naturally.

Go ahead and show your expertise by trying to prove me wrong.

 

[roddermac]

Sure, but the only times the climate changed this fast before was because of an asteroid or super volcano.
It has never changed this quickly naturally.

Go ahead and show your expertise by trying to prove me wrong.

Volcanos have erupted in our lifetime. You don't know how fast it's changed in the past because they didn't have the technology to record it accurately.

 

[roddermac]

That's denying anthropomorphic climate change.
That makes you a climate change denier.

And not taking one particular vaccine makes me an anti-vaxxer

 

[Frankfooter]

And not taking one particular vaccine makes me an anti-vaxxer

You think the covid anti vaxxers like all other vaccines?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1764410707729420550

 

[Frankfooter]

Volcanos have erupted in our lifetime. You don't know how fast it's changed in the past because they didn't have the technology to record it accurately.

You really don't understand paleoclimatology at all, do you?

As for volcanoes, tell us how many super volcanoes humanity has experienced and find out which ones changed the climate.
You are an expert in all things, so I assume you have this info at your googly fingertips.

 

[roddermac]

You really don't understand paleoclimatology at all, do you?

As for volcanoes, tell us how many super volcanoes humanity has experienced and find out which ones changed the climate.
You are an expert in all things, so I assume you have this info at your googly fingertips.

Volcano Watch — The Pinatubo Effect: Can geoengineering mimic volcanic processes?

Twenty years ago, Mount Pinatubo awakened from a long sleep to produce Earth's second largest eruption in more than half a century. Volcanologists have learned a lot about deep eruptive processes and the hazards of large explosive events by studying the Pinatubo eruption.

www.usgs.gov