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Climate Scientist Defeats Deniers, Hopes to Empower Others to Speak Out on Global Crisis in Media

 

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what have I got ?
1. scientific understanding you will never even remotely process
2. the failed results of your psudeo science
You have the utter confidence of the Dunning Kruger hero.

How stupid do you have to be to keep pushing this bait and switch chart?
All it shows is that you are unable to learn, unable to understand and unable to debate the issues.
 

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To The Climate Change Deniers.............If this is not due to the Impact from Climate Change, then what is!!

Brazil floods: 'We've never experienced anything like it'

People in southern Brazil have described the unprecedented devastation wreaked by flooding and overflowing rivers which have left swathes of the area under water.
The floods are the worst natural calamity ever to hit the state of Rio Grande do Sul, officials say.
At least 95 people have died and more than 130 are still missing.
An estimated 1.4 million people have been affected by the floods and aid workers are struggling to provide them with drinking water.

Days of torrential rain caused rivers to overflow and have submerged entire towns.
The capital of Rio Grande do Sul, Porto Alegre, is among those affected.
The city of 1.3 million inhabitants has been almost totally cut off by the floods.
An estimated 80% of its population do not have access to running water after five of the city's six water treatment plants ceased working.
Suzan, a resident of Porto Alegre, said that people in the city had "never experienced anything like it".
"There are thousands of people who lost their houses. Now we don't have water anywhere," she said in a voice message she sent to the BBC.
"My mother-in-law is 90 years old and she had to be carried by the rescuers. It's unbelievable what is going on here," she added.
The city's mayor has rationed drinking water and city officials are distributing water in tanker trucks.
The work of aid and rescue teams has been hampered by criminal gangs, which have been stealing their boats.
"Jet skis and houses were looted. This is deplorable and must be denounced," a presidential spokesman said.
The city authorities have called for anyone who owns "any kind of boat" to put it at the disposal of emergency teams as thousands of residents still need to be rescued from neighbourhoods cut off by the water.
Rescuers use a boat to look for people at the Humaita neighbourhood in Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul state, Brazil, on May 7, 2024.
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One resident, Alexander Ramos, told AFP news agency that he had been forced to leave his home because "everything had been washed away by the flood".
"We tried to wait as long as we could, but there was no chance, the army came and rescued us, as well as our dogs."
Some families are leaving the city on foot. "We've been without food for three days," one man told Reuters news agency.
"I'm with people I don't even know, I don't know where my family is," he added.
The latest estimates suggest 155,000 people have been left homeless.
The governor of the region has warned that torrential rainfall is due to resume this week.


Remember that Brazil previously had the biggest far right Climate Change Denier in what he so called "accomplished":

Deforestation of Brazil’s Amazon Has Reached a Record High. What’s Being Done?

This flood is massive, how do you get people out of there or rebuild?

 
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JohnLarue

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You have the utter confidence of the Dunning Kruger hero.



How stupid do you have to be to keep pushing this bait and switch chart?
All it shows is that you are unable to learn, unable to understand and unable to debate the issues.

too funny
all of the IPCC estimates come from failed computer models

failed computer models which
  1. can't replicate the past -a bare minimum for any predictive model
  2. do not agree with each other - settled science you say ? not even close
  3. do not agree with actual experimental data - the satellite data is verified by independent weather balloon data sets
this spaghetti mess is not science
it is the result of trying to force a proof of a predetermined conclusion & failing miserably

why would you call the results from "climate scientists'' models a "bait and switch'' ?

this is the output of the so called "settled science' vs the experimental observations in the troposphere
the troposphere, where the GHG theory predicts the catastrophic warming should take place, but has not taken place
this has been explained to you multiple times

there is no bait, there is no switch, just 73 plots of computer nonsense compared against real world experimental observations (satellite and weather balloon data )
the climate models are flawed
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How stupid do you have to be to keep pushing this bait and switch chart?
the real question is "How stupid do you have to be to keep trying to fake scientific understanding" ?
it is painfully obvious that you have no scientific training or scientific understanding
 

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Well cancel the IPCC, kirk has a theory!

Google IPCC and heat island and see if the IPCC has considered your idea already.
Then report.

The only time the planet has warmed faster was either by super volcano or asteroid.
Hogwash. Look up the Younger Dryas period. 4°C rise in temperature in less than 50 years .The IPCC is a corrupt entity. We're living in the most stable climate in the past 2.5 million years. Enough of this nonsense already.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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For the life of me I don't understand why you guys don't have this clown on ignore
 

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why would you call the results from "climate scientists'' models a "bait and switch'' ?

it is painfully obvious that you have no scientific training or scientific understanding
Wow, you still can't understand why your chart is bait and switch.
Start with reading the wiki definition of troposphere, where the satellite measures temperature.

Next, compare that with global surface temperatures.

Then see if you can puzzle out why using projections of measurements of the temperature on the surface of the planet shouldn't be compared with measurements of the temperature in the troposphere.

Then take a look at your last sentence and explain how someone who claims to know or have scientific training could make such a basic error repeatedly, and even after being told countless times.
 

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Hogwash. Look up the Younger Dryas period. 4°C rise in temperature in less than 50 years .The IPCC is a corrupt entity. We're living in the most stable climate in the past 2.5 million years. Enough of this nonsense already.
Do you know what the major theory for that change in temperature is?
A shutdown of the AMOC.

AMOC shutdown is one of the 7 major tipping points we have been warmed are getting incredibly close.
Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation
 

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True, but very sad indeed. Brazil is going through a very rough time. Several other countries are experiencing their worst effects of this Climate Change.
The right wingers are going from the frying pan into the fire with regards to their very partisan Climate Change views. They just cannot go by the Science!!
 
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True, but very sad indeed. Brazil is going through a very rough time. Several other countries are experiencing their worst effects of this Climate Change.
The right wingers are going from the frying pan into the fire with regards to their very partisan Climate Change views. They just cannot go by the Science!!
very partisan Climate Change views????
do you think Brazil has never had weather trouble before in its billion year history ?
you would not know science from propaganda if it ran you over

this is your settled pseudo science and it is a god damn mess

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Wow, you still can't understand why your chart is bait and switch.
Start with reading the wiki definition of troposphere, where the satellite measures temperature.

Next, compare that with global surface temperatures.

Then see if you can puzzle out why using projections of measurements of the temperature on the surface of the planet shouldn't be compared with measurements of the temperature in the troposphere.
it is astounding how stupid you are

what part of
the troposphere, where the GHG theory predicts the catastrophic warming should take place, but has not taken place
confuses you ?


Then take a look at your last sentence and explain how someone who claims to know or have scientific training could make such a basic error repeatedly, and even after being told countless times.
told countless times by a scientific know nothing with zero scientific training and a pathological desire to lie?
your proposal have been evaluated and rejected due to your history as a high school drop out and inability to be honest

the troposphere, where the GHG theory predicts the catastrophic warming should take place, but has not taken place

there is a reason why Atmospheric scientists choose to look at the Atmosphere rather than look at the ground
there is a reason why Atmospheric scientists have been sending weather balloons up into the Atmosphere for 150 years +

the surface temperature record data is
  1. filled with errors,
  2. contaminated by urban sprawl
  3. incomplete (2/3 of the planet is ocean)
  4. and has been diddled with
you have been told all of this countless times, but refuse to learn

it is astounding how stupid / dishonest you are

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it is astounding how stupid you are

what part of

confuses you ?




told countless times by a scientific know nothing with zero scientific training and a pathological desire to lie?
your proposal have been evaluated and rejected due to your history as a high school drop out and inability to be honest

the troposphere, where the GHG theory predicts the catastrophic warming should take place, but has not taken place

there is a reason why Atmospheric scientists choose to look at the Atmosphere rather than look at the ground
there is a reason why Atmospheric scientists have been sending weather balloons up into the Atmosphere for 150 years +

the surface temperature record data is
  1. filled with errors,
  2. contaminated by urban sprawl
  3. incomplete (2/3 of the planet is ocean)
  4. and has been diddled with
you have been told all of this countless times, but refuse to learn

it is astounding how stupid / dishonest you are

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You are comparing predictions of surface temperatures with actual atmosphere temperatures, how does that make any sense?
 
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very partisan Climate Change views????
do you think Brazil has never had weather trouble before in its billion year history ?
you would not know science from propaganda if it ran you over

this is your settled pseudo science and it is a god damn mess

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Total Damn Nonsense as Usual from You!!
 

Frankfooter

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the troposphere, where the GHG theory predicts the catastrophic warming should take place, but has not taken place
Larue, are you being intentionally dishonest or are you that stupid?
The IPCC projections are for surface temperatures and you want to measure them by the temperatures in the clouds.

Its like in your HVAC job before you retired 40 years ago the clients came to you and said, 'mr johnny, our furnace won't turn off its 45ºC in here' and then you went and said 'don't be silly, I just measured the temperature outside and its 18ºC there, everything is fine'.

As you said:
it is astounding how stupid / dishonest you are
You are comparing apples to oranges.
You are comparing the temperature in the clouds to projections for the temperature on the ground.
what is wrong with you?

 

JohnLarue

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You are comparing predictions of surface temperatures with actual atmosphere temperatures, how does that make any sense?
they are not predictions of surface temperatures, they are predictions of temperature anomalies
look at the scale moron
was the average surface temperature 0.1 C in 1980?
was the average troposphere temperature 0.1 C in 1980?

you do not have a clue what you blither about

explain how an atmospheric gas CO2 can heat up the surface without heating up the atmosphere ?
do not forget to include an explanation of how your moron theory obeys the laws of thermodynamics, the Stephan- law and energy conservation



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HungSowel

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The burden is on me to prove why you can not compare apples with oranges, WTF kind of retardation is this?
 
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The burden is on me to prove why you can not compare apples with oranges, WTF kind of retardation is this?
comparing temperature anomalies (change in temperature predicted by the models ) with temperature anomalies (change in temperature- observed by satellite / weather balloon data )
it is called a relative comparison

look at the scale, moron
 
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