True that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet do not have degrees, but Larry Ellison, not having a degree ? Are you sure ?james t kirk said:5. Bill Gates does not have a degree.
6. Larry Ellison does not have a degree
7. Warren Buffet does not have a degree.
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Right on Heather! This is a big problem in society. One of my businesses is to help educate people on this sort of thing, not always an easy task since most people don't even realize what a hole they've dug themselves until it's almost too late...Heather said:My home, car and student loans are all paid off. If I were to quit tommorow, I'd be able to go at least a year without working.
How many people can say that, no matter what their income?
The problem with most people isn't that they don't make enough money, it's that they spend it as fast as they make it. That goes for ALL fields, not just this one. There are millionaires who'd be out on the street in three months if the money stopped rolling in.
I think it is normal to feel that way. SPs are humans and if you feel that you have lost a friend then you really have. I would say you are a gentleman.learningtoplay said:I know I sound like a suck, but i feel I have lost a friend and a lover. ( I am not misguided - i do understand that this is a business relationship)
That's usually where the money problem begins, Kathy. Women always feel guilty about thinking about the cost of having children pragmaticly. It shouldn't be that way. Once upon a time it used to be respectable for a poor woman to give a child up for adoption if she wasn't able to afford to keep it. But since I've started working I've noticed that there are plenty of people who go out of their way to make women feel guilty about it on top of how guilty the woman probably feels to begin with. Often the woman 's family is the worst culprit of this. It's almost like they do it as a punishment for them having a child before they are in a position where they can handle it, be it being out of wedlock or just unprepared for it. It amazing me that this still happens in this day and age. I don't think I even have to touch the issue of people making women feel guilty about having an abortion. That's self evident.Kathy P said:In response to your remark about single motherhood, Heather, I have never thought of my child as a cash drain.
You have to admit it's expensive as hell to provide that for just one child. Now multiply that by 3 or 4. I've met far too many women in this business who hate their jobs but stay in it because they've "got a family to support". Yet I've seen girls who hate their jobs and stay in it "because of their kids", get pregnant time and time again and keep each and every one until they have families of 5 or 6 or more. Each subsequent child takes food out of the mouth of the one before it and begets a new generation of poverty. Please don't feel I am lumping you in with these women Kathy. It's obvious you have a better head on your shoulders than that. I'm sure you've seen them yourself before and you must feel contempt for them as well.
Every day that I have been blessed with her presence in my life, I thank my lucky stars. Nothing gives me more pleasure than to be able to take her on a back-to-school spree at Gap Kids, to pay for her orthodontics, or camp or even just buying her a special drink for her lunch for school.
I'll be the first to admit it's a privilage. But I won't deny it's also burden. Especially when one parent fails their to hold up their end of the bargain.Being a parent is a privilege not a burden.
Well that makes one of us that feels that way. I will never regret not having children before being able to handle them financially. Then again, I'm not a person that has many, if any, regrets in their life. If I never have children, I probably would never regret that either. And I don't think it's right for you to try to rub that in to a childless woman. While I couldn't care less what you think I'm missing, that could really hurt a woman who wants a child, especially if they're just waiting for the right time. I enjoy my life as it is, just as I am sure you enjoy yours.It really is a pity that you haven't had the pleasure or realized the joys as well as the responsibilities of being a mother, single or not.
At least you only had the one kid before you found that out.
Irregardless of the fact that I married (and divorced) the king of all deadbeat husbands and fathers,
I'm sorry to hear that you don't have anything else that matters in your life. You really have no idea how badly that makes me feel or how much that makes me not want to have children at all.
I thank God for the only thing that matters in life: my beautiful daughter.
I think that if you did have children, then and only then, would you be able to understand the quote that you are commenting too. I am sure that life itself does not revolve solely around her daughter but the number one priority would be her child and only a true loving and fully committed parent can, not only understand but truly appreciate that feeling. I hope one day this will happen for you, but I think this is an issue you should not keep commenting about since you have no true experience on the subject.Heather said:
I'm sorry to hear that you don't have anything else that matters in your life. You really have no idea how badly that makes me feel or how much that makes me not want to have children at all.
I'd slap my mother if she ever said that about me. I'm sure I'm important to her, but I would never want her to feel that I was her sole reason for living. That's just plain selfish.
The bit about Ellison's speech is an urban legend, but a good read:james t kirk said:It was my understanding that Elison does not have a degree.
I seem to recall a speach given by Elison to the graduating class of yale chiding them as a bunch of spoiled brats that they would be working for him, a guy without a degree.
Gates may have been a good student, but he still doesn't have a degree now does he.
Please be so kind and point out one post where an sp is acting like a martyr. Don't bother searching, you won't find one.Heather said:
Why is it that we can't feel there's value in motherhood without turning it into martyrdom?