Bye Bye Bosh
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really shows your basketball knowledge with that statement, i suggest you should stick to something you might be familiar with like hockey
if raptors can pry luis scola ( better defender than david lee and higher basketball iq) from houston it would be great without giving any of their young players, plus whatever they received from miami if that is to occur..either way it willl be a domino effect, either jack or calderon is gone, preferably they keep jack and also seems turk is changing his tune so he'll probably be staying
While the return on the supposed Miami deal ain't great, BC isn't exactly dealing from an advantageous position here. Actually, I don't mind Beasley. He's a 21 year old scorer that can also rebound. He had some some great games against the Raps as I recall. Anyway, if he's focused he can be a 20 & 10 guy easily. He wasn't the 2nd overall pick for nothing. I'd be content with Beasley, trade exemption, our 1st Rounder back, and a future Miami 1st Rounder. Don't really care for Chalmers and Anthony.
chalmers and anthony are decent defensive players though and if chalmers can develop an offensive game he can start cuz he is quick just no jump shot and limited court vision and joel anthony younger more athlethic version of magloire
Bryan, is that you?
I suggest you should stick to educating yourself on winning NBA basketball and learning how to truly watch and understand the professional game. Michael Beasley's a stiff. A fraud. An undersized (nowhere near the listed 6'10") power forward too slow to play SF. Terrible and lazy defensive player + selfish and undisciplined at the offensive end. Terrible rebounder. Maybe you're stuck in a time machine and think he's playing against children at K-State.
The fact that you had the audacity to compare his skillset to Lebron James' shows how little you know about the game.
But keep trying to be a know-it-all.
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I suggest you should stick to educating yourself on winning NBA basketball and learning how to truly watch and understand the professional game. Michael Beasley's a stiff. A fraud. An undersized (nowhere near the listed 6'10") power forward too slow to play SF. Terrible and lazy defensive player + selfish and undisciplined at the offensive end. Terrible rebounder. Maybe you're stuck in a time machine and think he's playing against children at K-State.
The fact that you had the audacity to compare his skillset to Lebron James' shows how little you know about the game.
But keep trying to be a know-it-all.
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Chris Bosh
Year↓ Team↓ GP↓ GS↓ MPG↓ FG%↓ 3P%↓ FT%↓ RPG↓ APG↓ SPG↓ BPG↓ PPG↓
2003–04 Toronto 75 63 33.5 .459 .357 .701 7.4 1.0 .8 1.4 11.5
2004–05 Toronto 81 81 37.2 .471 .300 .760 8.9 1.9 .9 1.4 16.8
Michael Beasley
2008–09 Miami 81 19 24.8 .472 .407 .772 5.4 1.0 .5 .5 13.9
2009–10 Miami 78 78 29.8 .450 .275 .800 6.4 1.3 1.0 .6 14.8
for a horrible rebounder, his numbers are pretty similar to bosh in comparison to their first 2 years....
Let me guess you're a lebron fan? you should really educated me in how winning in NBA basketball works. Terrible and lazy defensively + selfish and undiscipline you sound like a white guy that has read too many articles. Lebron is an over rated basketball player, everyone thinks he is god considering he has the ball in his hands 90% of the time and yes I say he has same skill set as lebron, obviously it hasn't materialize in miami could happen in a more up tempo team.
Year↓ Team↓ GP↓ GS↓ MPG↓ FG%↓ 3P%↓ FT%↓ RPG↓ APG↓ SPG↓ BPG↓ PPG↓
2003–04 Toronto 75 63 33.5 .459 .357 .701 7.4 1.0 .8 1.4 11.5
2004–05 Toronto 81 81 37.2 .471 .300 .760 8.9 1.9 .9 1.4 16.8
Michael Beasley
2008–09 Miami 81 19 24.8 .472 .407 .772 5.4 1.0 .5 .5 13.9
2009–10 Miami 78 78 29.8 .450 .275 .800 6.4 1.3 1.0 .6 14.8
for a horrible rebounder, his numbers are pretty similar to bosh in comparison to their first 2 years....
Let me guess you're a lebron fan? you should really educated me in how winning in NBA basketball works. Terrible and lazy defensively + selfish and undiscipline you sound like a white guy that has read too many articles. Lebron is an over rated basketball player, everyone thinks he is god considering he has the ball in his hands 90% of the time and yes I say he has same skill set as lebron, obviously it hasn't materialize in miami could happen in a more up tempo team.
Apparently the G3 summit hasnt wielded any concrete decisions...Bosh to Miami hasnt been finalized, and the whole world is waiting on Lebron. Im just sick and tired of this crap, if Bosh had stated to BC during the last season that he wanted to leave BC could have gotten great value in a trade. Instead he played out the strings and is just going to jump ships; we may or may not even get anything in return. Im sure Bosh knew he was going to leave last year...heck BC shouldve traded him regardless. Hes not a centre-piece anyway
Great post. Benn is completely delusional. There's not 1 single GM in the entire league that wants Beasely, not even the Nets and T-Wolves. The Raptors have now officially come out and said that they're not interested in Beasely either.
I'm pretty confident that the Raps will land a decent return for Bosh. From what I've gathered thus far on the internets, he's adamant on the 6th year which only a sign & trade can yield. Chicago and Miami have some decent pieces, but Houston (a long shot at this point) can produce a great haul (Martin, Brooks, multiple 1st Rounders).
No one claimed Chris Bosh was a great rebounder. Plus as a rookie, he was a beanpole with little strength. CB4 is average-to-good (at times - when his team is playing well.) Michael Beasley is often out of position, rarely boxes out and is often out-jumped (he has a below average vertical) or out-worked for 50-50 balls.
Again, your assumptions are silly. The point was that YOU compared Michael Beasley to Lebron James, skill-wise. Lebron is faster, stronger, has better hops, is a better ball-handler and passer - not to mention he has a better feel for the game and gives his all (unless his team is losing to Boston in the playoffs, apparently.) He has been since high school. Michael Beasley is a good scorer at times and has all kinds of talent, but he has a low basketball IQ and IS lazy, unfocused and lacks discipline. He was out of shape for virtually his whole rookie season. Whether I'm white, black or rainbow coloured doesn't change that.
Try watching games from an analytical perspective once in a while. It would help even more if you actually played the game. <wink>
Beasley the player would not be a bad pickup, its his mental makeup that worries me. Also he's a better PF than SF, and Bargnani should not be playing center unless paired with a very good rebounding PF, which Beasley is not.
Anyways, I would hate to trade Bosh to the Heat or Bulls to be honest. I wish more western conference teams were in the mix. The thought of us sucking and him abusing Bargnani 4 times a year for the forseable future is not pleasant. Oh well I won't miss the attention whore and geek sides of himl (I find all his comedy attempts forced and unfunny, and twitter stuff lame).
Anyways, I would hate to trade Bosh to the Heat or Bulls to be honest. I wish more western conference teams were in the mix. The thought of us sucking and him abusing Bargnani 4 times a year for the forseable future is not pleasant. Oh well I won't miss the attention whore and geek sides of himl (I find all his comedy attempts forced and unfunny, and twitter stuff lame).
Been away for a bit and just read a bit of this page, but I'm sorry to say, benn, you are soooooo wrong. I think YOU should stick with hockey. Cap said it all. How can you even compare stats of Beasley and Bosh. Beasley's maturity and mental state is probably still in HS/College to beging with. While Bosh is no top tier player, Beasley is nowhere near Bosh. He will never be close to a franchise player title. I also do not think he'd be a good fit with the Raptors.
If it would be such a steal for us, then why would Miami give up their past first round pick so fast to UPgrade to Bosh?
IMO, I just think a trade with Miami would not be a good trade for use, we can definitely do better. Agree with Powershot, Beasley would be a good backup.
Also benn, to be a great player you do kinda need the ball in your hands most of times. We're not talking about a PG like Nash who is a great passer, or a Ray Allen/Reggie Miller, who is a great shooter. Lebron is one of those guys who can do it all. Pass, shoot, create for himself. That's exactly what makes him what he is, (you call God) in the game. So who else do you think should have the ball more, Jamario Moon or Shaq running the play?
Beasley has the same skills as Lebron? Are you joking or high??
If it would be such a steal for us, then why would Miami give up their past first round pick so fast to UPgrade to Bosh?
IMO, I just think a trade with Miami would not be a good trade for use, we can definitely do better. Agree with Powershot, Beasley would be a good backup.
Also benn, to be a great player you do kinda need the ball in your hands most of times. We're not talking about a PG like Nash who is a great passer, or a Ray Allen/Reggie Miller, who is a great shooter. Lebron is one of those guys who can do it all. Pass, shoot, create for himself. That's exactly what makes him what he is, (you call God) in the game. So who else do you think should have the ball more, Jamario Moon or Shaq running the play?
Beasley has the same skills as Lebron? Are you joking or high??
amir johnson agrees to a deal with raptors, 5 years at 7M a year. the raptors should let derozan, weems, johnson and jared jack along with the ed davis , solomon alabi and AB develop for couple of years and we could end up having a decent team, rather than trying to make a splash into the free agency market.
Love the sarcasm and the sentiment
Indeed, if everything falls into place (i.e., Lebron leaves Cleveland, the Celtics big three all age overnight and the other teams in the East regress.)
Indeed, if everything falls into place (i.e., Lebron leaves Cleveland, the Celtics big three all age overnight and the other teams in the East regress.)
According to the Toronto Sun the Raptors have not been impressed by trade proposals submitted by teams so far interested in a sign and trade scenario with Raptors and it's causing a rift between Chris Bosh's group and the Raptors.
Raptors are more interested in trade exemptions and/or draft picks while most teams are looking to dump expensive, toxic, non-performing assets on the Raptors in a trade.
There's a chance Bosh might have to settle for a 5 year 96.1 million deal rather than a sign and trade 6 year 125.5 million dollar deal.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2010/07/04/14602881.html
Raptors are more interested in trade exemptions and/or draft picks while most teams are looking to dump expensive, toxic, non-performing assets on the Raptors in a trade.
There's a chance Bosh might have to settle for a 5 year 96.1 million deal rather than a sign and trade 6 year 125.5 million dollar deal.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2010/07/04/14602881.html
