Bye Bye Bosh

[benn]

But you surround him with a team like the Lakers, I'd bet he would win.

you do know cavs won more games than Lakers right? If you put Kobe with the cavs he would still win and lebron wouldn't win the lakers line up...the difference is their mentality, you know why lebron checked out on the cavs against the celtics, he found out his mother was having an affair with delonte west and he simply gave up, he is just a stats stuffer he doesn't have the killer instinct

 

[artmosphere]

I do see it kind of funny as if Bosh is riding on LBJ's coat tail. You just know he'll go where ever James go. That's his 1st choice and 2nd choice is go with Wade in Miami. I don't believe all that stuff they never spoke before. Can't say I blame him at all.

 

[benn]

I do see it kind of funny as if Bosh is riding on LBJ's coat tail. You just know he'll go where ever James go. That's his 1st choice and 2nd choice is go with Wade in Miami. I don't believe all that stuff they never spoke before. Can't say I blame him at all.

doesn't suprise me, bosh is a little bitch he really needed to man up when raps were struggling but he is too soft when the going gets top he disappears as much as we all hated vince, but vince was the man how many game winning shots he made with raps and new jersey and compare that to Rupaul, honestly i don't recall bosh ever won a game with a buzzer beater case and point miss lay up against GS that he should have dunked but he was so scared almost looked like he alligator armed it

 

[Doc Holliday]

Carter played on a much better all around team than Bosh.

One could argue that they were better coached as well.

Chris Bosh always came to play & he played as hard as he could on any given night. Vince Carter would pull himself out of the lineup if he had a blister on his finger. He didn't always show up to play & played soft until he got his wish to get traded. You never heard Bosh whine, while it was a regular occurence with Carter. Bosh has heart. Carter never did.

I hope the fans applaud Bosh when he'll show up for his first game at the ACC. As far as i'm concerned, they can continue booing Carter.

 

[HOF]

NBA Finals: All-Time Champions
1. When you really look at the teams that have one NBA titles, there are that many.
YEAR CHAMPION OPPONENT RESULT MVP
09/10 LOS ANGELES LAKERS!
2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers Orlando Magic 4-1 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles
2007-08 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Paul Pierce, Boston
2006-07 San Antonio Spurs Cleveland Cavaliers 4-0 Tony Parker, San Antonio
2005-06 Miami Heat Dallas Mavericks 4-2 Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat
2004-05 San Antonio Spurs Detroit Pistons 4-3 Tim Duncan, San Antonio 2003-04 Detroit Pistons Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons
2002-03 San Antonio Spurs New Jersey Nets 4-2 Tim Duncan, San Antonio
2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers New Jersey Nets 4-0 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles
2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers Philadelphia 76ers 4-1 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles
1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers Indiana Pacers 4-2 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles
1998-99 San Antonio Spurs New York Knicks 4-1 Tim Duncan, San Antonio
1997-98 Chicago Bulls Utah Jazz 4-2 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1996-97 Chicago Bulls Utah Jazz 4-2 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1995-96 Chicago Bulls Seattle SuperSonics 4-2 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1994-95 Houston Rockets Orlando Magic 4-0 Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston
1993-94 Houston Rockets New York Knicks 4-3 Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston
1992-93 Chicago Bulls Phoenix Suns 4-2 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1991-92 Chicago Bulls Portland Trail Blazers 4-2 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1990-91 Chicago Bulls Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 Michael Jordan, Chicago
1989-90 Detroit Pistons Portland Trail Blazers 4-1 Isiah Thomas, Detroit
1988-89 Detroit Pistons Los Angeles Lakers 4-0 Joe Dumars, Detroit
1987-88 Los Angeles Lakers Detroit Pistons 4-3 James Worthy, Los Angeles
1986-87 Los Angeles Lakers Boston Celtics 4-2 Magic Johnson, Los Angeles
1985-86 Boston Celtics Houston Rockets 4-2 Larry Bird, Boston
1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers Boston Celtics 4-2 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Los Angeles
1983-84 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-3 Larry Bird, Boston
1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers Los Angeles Lakers 4-0 Moses Malone, Philadelphia
1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers Philadelphia 76ers 4-2 Magic Johnson, Los Angeles
1980-81 Boston Celtics Houston Rockets 4-2 Cedric Maxwell, Boston
1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers Philadelphia 76ers 4-2 Magic Johnson, Los Angeles
1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics Washington Bullets 4-1 Dennis Johnson, Seattle
1977-78 Washington Bullets Seattle SuperSonics 4-3 Wes Unseld, Washington
1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers Philadelphia 76ers 4-2 Bill Walton, Portland
1975-76 Boston Celtics Phoenix Suns 4-2 Jo Jo White, Boston
1974-75 Golden State Warriors Washington Bullets 4-0 Rick Barry, Golden State
1973-74 Boston Celtics Milwaukee Bucks 4-3 John Havlicek, Boston
1972-73 New York Knicks Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 Willis Reed, New York
1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers New York Knicks 4-1 Wilt Chamberlain, Los Angeles
1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks Baltimore Bullets 4-0 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Milwaukee
1969-70 New York Knicks Los Angeles Lakers 4-3 Willis Reed, New York
1968-69 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-3 Jerry West, Los Angeles
1967-68 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-2
1966-67 Philadelphia 76ers San Francisco Warriors 4-2
1965-66 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-3
1964-65 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-1
1963-64 Boston Celtics San Francisco Warriors 4-1
1962-63 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-2
1961-62 Boston Celtics Los Angeles Lakers 4-3
1960-61 Boston Celtics St. Louis Hawks 4-1
1959-60 Boston Celtics St. Louis Hawks 4-3
1958-59 Boston Celtics Minneapolis Lakers 4-0
1957-58 St. Louis Hawks Boston Celtics 4-2
1956-57 Boston Celtics St. Louis Hawks 4-3
1955-56 Philadelphia Warriors Fort Wayne Pistons 4-1
1954-55 Syracuse Nationals Fort Wayne Pistons 4-3
1953-54 Minneapolis Lakers Syracuse Nationals 4-3
1952-53 Minneapolis Lakers New York Knicks 4-1
1951-52 Minneapolis Lakers New York Knicks 4-3
1950-51 Rochester Royals New York Knicks 4-3
1949-50 Minneapolis Lakers Syracuse Nationals 4-2
1948-49 Minneapolis Lakers Washington Capitols 4-2
1947-48 Baltimore Bullets Philadelphia Warriors 4-2
1946-47 Philadelphia Warriors Chicago Stags 4-1

It's easy to see where one really needs to go to get a title!
Boston, Lakers, San Antonio, Houston, Detroit, Chicago have won most of the titles.

List of Free Agents:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10

Miami:
If Wade, LBJ and Bosh went there.
Keep: Haslem, Magloire, Beasley, Richardson
Really need a point guard? Steve Blake or Chris Paul for a trade? Chris Duhon? Nate Robinson?
Pat Riley would have to coach or the deal falls through.

Chicago:
If Wade, LBJ and Bosh went there.
Derrick Rose PG, Noah, Miller, Gibson all others are expendable.
Rookie Head Coach!

NY:
If Wade, LBJ and Bosh went there:
Chris Duhon, David Lee
The rest is such a mess here.
Plus: Coach D'antoni likes the fast paced game!

CAA could they tell them where to go? http://www.sports.caa.com/Home.aspx

Chris Bosh has a gold medal. Why? Because of the other members of the USA Team. Chris Bosh has played in NBA All Star game. Why? Because he's on a terrible team where he can put up great numbers, but as soon as that All Star game is over, so is his season.
Truly, Bosh will never be "The Man" and is really the 3rd option on a championship team, maybe even the fourth option depending on the team. Will he be able to accept that role in order to win a title? He is not a natural leader like LBJ, Wade, Kobe, Nash, so it's better for him to be a blend in player like Robert Horry, Lamar Odom. He did his job or his time in TO, and hopefully, he'll be off to greener pastures and a ring.

I would never blame Bosh for the Raptor's woes. It's MLSE and the revolving door of senior management, coaches and bad draft picks in toll that are the fiasco called Toronto Raptors. An organization just can't keep making such bad moves and think they're going to win. Again, MLSE is at fault!

In the end, Bosh may not even be part of a big deal move by players. We'll know in about 48 hours.

BTW, Kareena, You're a babe

 

[artmosphere]

you do know cavs won more games than Lakers right? If you put Kobe with the cavs he would still win and lebron wouldn't win the lakers line up...the difference is their mentality, you know why lebron checked out on the cavs against the celtics, he found out his mother was having an affair with delonte west and he simply gave up, he is just a stats stuffer he doesn't have the killer instinct

Hmm, I'm not saying it's true with that whole affair thingy, but for argument sake lets say it is true. I think almost anyone's mentallity/heart would suffer if they found out their mother was having an affair with your own teammate...lol.
Everyone knows the Lakers have one of the deepest bench, if not, the top 3 for sure. Having someone like Gasol helps Kobe big time. I do recalled in the past Kobe was whining and wanted to leave LA(when they were losing) until Pau came along and adding the other pieces.

 

[benn]

Chris Bosh always came to play & he played as hard as he could on any given night. Vince Carter would pull himself out of the lineup if he had a blister on his finger. He didn't always show up to play & played soft until he got his wish to get traded. You never heard Bosh whine, while it was a regular occurence with Carter. Bosh has heart. Carter never did.

I hope the fans applaud Bosh when he'll show up for his first game at the ACC. As far as i'm concerned, they can continue booing Carter.

it was only in his last year that carter stopped trying, and his last 2 years with the raptors he was relatively healthy its true thought carter had no heart if he had kobe's approach to the game he would have been the best player this decade cuz he had more talent than kobe

 

[benn]

Hmm, I'm not saying it's true with that whole affair thingy, but for augurment sake say it is true. I think almost anyone's mentallity/heart would suffer if they found out their mother was having an affair with your own teammate...lol.
Everyone knows the Lakers have one of the deepest bench, if not, the top 3 for sure. Having someone like Gasol helps Kobe big time. I do recall Kobe was whinning and wanted to leave LA(when they were losing) until Pau came along and adding the other pieces.

deepest bench? lakers bench were pretty similar to cavs bench, you do know Jamison plays for cavs right?

 

[artmosphere]

I guess another few irrelavent points. Yes Bosh did have passion, he tried and payed hard, but could never bring the Raps over the top. Vince as we all know did not bring it consistently, but would you not agreed he was more fun to watch? Bosh has no real charisma(sorry dude, ). Yeah he does his job, he gets his jumpers, the occasional dunks, the blocks, etc..but I never jumped out of my seat like I did when I watched VC. There was no real wow factor. I guess what's really important is wins and losses and neither one could really deliver. Will I miss Bosh, yes and no. I appreciate the fact he gave his best, but I'm also looking forward to starting over almost and seeing how BC rebuild.

 

[artmosphere]

deepest bench? lakers bench were pretty similar to cavs bench, you do know Jamison plays for cavs right?

He's no Gasol though.

 

[benn]

He's no Gasol though.

he is as talented, excellent rebounder excellent post up game. with 3pt range

 

[Powershot]

Jamison is good but the lacks height advantage that Gasol has over most defenders and has not shown the clutch play Pau has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVJpeo7PvE

 

[smuddan]

By the positions that they play, wouldn't it be more likely that a team who has room for two max players will pair Bosh (being a pf) with either James or Wade than signing the latter two ? Although of-course Bosh isn't really in the same class of the two.

So wouldn't that make Bosh the "wild card" of the free agents so to speak ? I guess that's what make Bosh so excited that he will have a good chance to play with either James or Wade; and he really didn't mean it when he said he always wanted to be "the man".

 

[artmosphere]

What position does James play ??? He seems like he can be best at any position if he set his mind too ... Heck if he wanted to lead the league in assists he proably could and if he wanted to lead the league in rebounds he proably could ... The only Championship he has ever got since turning pro was a gold medal and he wasn't the leading scorer of the team ... Why do James and Wade give a shit about Bosh ... They can win it by themselves surrounded by great defensive role players and one
robert horry type of player ..

No matter how many defensive role players you put on a team...you still need to have 2 or 3 scoring options. Aside from Bosh, who would rather take? Amare? He's a defensive liability too. Bosh is not flashy, but he does his jobs and plays forward which is complementry to both either James or Wade.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Bosh reportedly traded to Miami

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baske...ays-raptors-shipping-chris-bosh-to-miami-heat

 

[artmosphere]

What is everyone's take on Michael Beasley ?? Something tells me he won't be a Raptor for very long and will be shipped somewhere else ...

You may be right. I'm not too big on Beasley but there wasn't much out there. What are the chances LBJ could wind up in Miami too?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If Bosh is going to Miami in a trade there's only one thing I would want back and that's the future draft choice Colangelo recklessly gave away to them for no good reason.
Why do bottom sucking Toronto teams keep giving away their future round 1 draft picks?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Cause that is what bottom sucking teams do ... Knicks are another team who give away 1st round pics faster then the Leafs

I was watching a rerun of an old NHL draft the other day & forgot the Leafs had once traded away their first-round pick to obtain Brian Leetch. Most people have already forgot that Brian Leetch once played (briefly) for the Leafs. And that wasn't too long ago....

I must admit that i'm disappointed in Bryan Colangelo. I'm also disappointed that he hasn't been able to find a better heach coach than Jay Triano. Certainly there must be some better candidates out there!

 

[benn]

What is everyone's take on Michael Beasley ?? Something tells me he won't be a Raptor for very long and will be shipped somewhere else ...

oh man i like beasley, same skill set as lebron point forward, excellent rebounder was put under the microscope and was not as productive as expected but still decent numbers could blow up. chalmers quick guard, excellent defensively limited offense

 

[enyceman]

Carter played on a much better all around team than Bosh.

One could argue that they were better coached as well.

I have to disagree...he was surrounded by the likes of Charles Oakley, Mugsy Bogues, Morris Peterson, Dell Curry, Hakeem (past shelf date), Donyell Marshall and the list goes on. Bosh had a good team on paper at least with Bargs, Calderon/Jack, Derozan and Turk. Too bad Turk sucked and BC gave him a $10 mil a year contract!!! The real question is who the raptors will be getting in return if any and how will Bargnani react next season?