But Is It Genocide?
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A Hamaside is what's going on in Gaza...What's a "Hamaside"? Maybe it cannot be any worse than a "Netanyahuside"!!
Ah, another person who admits they don't differentiate between children and militants so thinks killing all Palestinians is ok.
So when the UN says Israel is 'exterminating Palestinians' you just cheer it on.
Do you think that makes you any different than a nazi, other than the choice of people to 'exterminate'?
Somehow, POS Nation is screwing up its relationship with Germany. Their march to self destruction continues.
Germany was Israel's #3 supporter, after trump and Starmer.
Goodbye
www.aljazeera.com
Goodbye
Germany to halt military exports to Israel for use in Gaza war
Berlin says it will halt shipments of military equipment that could be used in Gaza.
AIPAC Goes Apeshit On MTG
AIPAC Attacks Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene for Calling Israel’s Actions in Gaza Genocide
The pro-Israel lobby called Greene's remarks 'disgusting'
by Dave DeCamp | August 7, 2025 at 12:45 pm ET | Gaza
The pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC is attacking Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) after she became the first Republican member of Congress to label Israel’s actions against the Palestinians in Gaza a genocide.
According to Al Jazeera, in a fundraising email to supporters on Thursday, AIPAC called Greene’s remarks “disgusting” and accused her of betraying “American values” for calling Israel’s brutal campaign in Gaza a genocide, which aligns Greene with many human rights organizations and genocide scholars, including Israeli ones.
“You expect anti-Israel smears from Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar,” AIPAC said in the email, referring to two House Democrats known for their critical view of Israel. “But now, Marjorie Taylor Greene has joined their ranks – spouting the same vile rhetoric and voting against the US-Israel alliance.”
AIPAC said Greene was now the “newest member of the anti-Israel Squad” and claimed her view was a “betrayal of American values and a dangerous distortion of the truth.”
Greene has referred to Israel’s actions as genocide at least twice in posts on X. In her first post, Greene said that it’s “the most truthful and easiest thing to say that Oct 7th in Israel was horrific and all hostages must be returned, but so is the genocide, humanitarian crisis, and starvation happening in Gaza.”
In another post, the Georgia congresswoman said many Americans are “against radical Islamic terrorism, but we are also against genocide.” She has also repeatedly referred to Israel as “nuclear-armed Israel,” making her one of the first members of Congress to directly acknowledge Israel’s secret nuclear arsenal.
AIPAC is known to spend big on pro-Israel candidates and is likely going to fund an opponent of Greene’s when she comes up for election again. The pro-Israel group has also targeted Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), the only other Republican in Congress to offer significant criticism of Israel and who consistently votes against aid to Israel.
Israel is losing MAGA and with it they lose everything.
August 8, 2025Bearing the Mark of Cain for Naming the Gaza Genocide
Michael Zoosman
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Cain and Abel by Albrecht Dürer, woodcut, 1511.
I began publicly invoking the word “genocide” in July 2025 to describe the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza in response to the horrific Hamas terrorist attacks of October 7, 2023, and the incomprehensible ongoing hostage crisis. Since that time, despite increasing agreement among liberal Jewish organizations over the use of this term, I cannot help but feel like I wear the mark of Cain in the Jewish community. Many colleagues, friends, and loved ones have gone from praising my recent award as a “Rabbinic Human Rights Hero” for my efforts to mobilize the Jewish community against the death penalty, to vilifying me for what they claim is parroting anti-Semitic canards. Others have dismissed me as “insane,” a “psychopath,” or attempted to shame me for what they feel is my abandonment of my fellow descendants of Holocaust survivors, and the Jewish people as a whole.
I thought I knew of vitriol and recrimination; I was wrong. For years, proponents of the death penalty have lodged heinous verbal attacks against me for my public activism as the co-founder of “L’chaim! Jews Against the Death Penalty.” Even that could not have prepared me, however, for the deluge of hate and ridicule I have received throughout the Jewish world this past month. Now, I feel like a persona non grata when I enter many congregations and communities that previously embraced me as an ordained cantor. Decades-long friends and colleagues have started to treat me like a social pariah. Acquaintances who know me less well are more direct. “Kapo,” some of them have called me, adding: “You’d sell us out to the Nazis any day just to keep yourself lookin’ good to your antisemite friends.”
Critics may ask why I subject myself to the kangaroo court of public opinion. The truth is that it is not for my sake, but rather for the children of our shared world. First and foremost, for Gazan children, who remain in the line of fire and starvation as I write these words. Also, for my own children. In their faces, I see the emaciated images of their young cousins scattered among the rubble in Gaza, alongside Israeli children like Kfir and Ariel Bibas, of blessed memories, slaughtered in captivity after the ruthless October 7th massacre of over a thousand more innocent souls. They, like Jewish children everywhere, one day will read about this fraught moment in time and wonder where their ancestors stood in the public arena while a veritable genocide unfolded before their eyes. They will consider individuals like Israeli lawmaker Ofer Cassif, whose colleagues ejected him from the Knesset this week for calling the government’s campaign in Gaza a genocide. They will remember, as well, Israeli author David Grossman, whose use of that same term Cassif had quoted before his removal from Israel’s parliamentary chamber.
Some argue that terminology does not matter when reckoning with the atrocities that the IDF has committed in response to the heinous Hamas terrorist attacks. I firmly disagree. Words matter – they can wage wars and herald peace; inspire killing, and save lives. As the government of Israel’s military response to the October 7th, 2023 attacks became more extreme, I carefully chose my words. I first spoke of vengeance, then of ethnic cleansing. Now, albeit far too late and with a weighty heart, I am quite intentionally – and far from lightly – employing the word “genocide,” as per a growing consensus of genocide scholars and humanitarian organizations, in describing the actions in Gaza of the government of Israel, whose land and people I dearly love as a progressive Zionist. Others have indicated that employing the term genocide might empower those eager to engage in antisemitic rhetoric and violence, which is indeed a very legitimate concern. Rabbi Jill Jacobs, the director of T’ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights, helped to remind me, though, that one can and should be able to criticize the Israeli government without fomenting antisemitism.
The metaphor of the infamous “Ot Kayin” (Hebrew: “Mark of Cain”) that I feel I bear – and its related Biblical narrative – is most telling. After Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of rage and jealousy, the Divine exclaims to him: “Hark, your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground!” (Genesis 4: 10). Many progressive Jewish groups have quoted this exact verse in drawing a parallel between Cain and Abel’s archetypal sibling rivalry and what HaShechinah – the Divine Presence – might say in response to the government of Israel’s killings of their Gazan cousins.
It merits reminding that in the Biblical text, the Creator did not intend for the sign on Cain’s forehead to be a symbol of shame, despite its evolution as such in the prevalent mindset over the millennia. Instead, God meant for it to protect Cain from others bent on putting him to death for having killed his brother. It is fitting that a death penalty abolitionist like myself would wear this misunderstood mark in the eyes of so many of my fellow Jews. Many of them seem to view my argument as tantamount to fratricide, a treasonous action that would appear, for some, to be worthy of execution.
I pen these reflections on Tisha B’Av, the Jewish calendar’s major day of communal mourning and fasting over the destruction of the ancient Temples and countless other calamities in Jewish history. Many colleagues have written powerful prose and poetry about the cruel irony this year of fasting on this solemn day, which recalls in grim detail the starvation of the Jewish people in ancient times. They have rightfully juxtaposed this ritual with the fact that, while Hamas continues to torture and starve Israeli hostages to death, the government of Israel enables a famine that kills countless innocent Palestinian children and civilians, and plans now to expand the military occupation and destruction of Gaza. I, too, mourn these detestable synchronicities.
At the same time, I lament how future generations will perceive those who are unable or unwilling to open their eyes to the reality of the genocide. I profoundly regret that I waited far too long before using this word to describe what is occurring in Gaza. I will have to live with that realization for the rest of my life. Just as with my shifting view of the death penalty over time, I hope that my progeny will forgive me for not reading the signs sooner of clear human rights violations in Gaza. May my journey be a lesson to them that no one is immune to blind spots. May it also demonstrate that it is possible to summon the courage necessary to live by one’s values, even in the face of prodigious criticism and public and private condemnation. Finally, I pray that these sincere sentiments will give renewed hope to readers, reminding them that people can change their attitudes. I encourage others to do so – despite the costs – as soon as possible, for the sake of Palestinians in Gaza, the global Jewish community, and all humanity.
A version of this essay first appeared on The Jurist.
Poor dude got PTSD, doesn't even know what the fuck he is talking about.
Yes, 2 year anniversary is around the corner. Should of returned the hostages and laid down their arms at the very beginning. I'm suprised you still haven't figured out that running around the streets like a bunch of sheeps or relying on social media does not stop the destruction. Sad, so sad
Israel has destroyed zionism, such a big win.
Turning zionists into the new nazis was so smart.
Israel had 75 years to settle for the two state solution but the asswipes kept taking more and more land and killing more and more people.
Now you think its great.
What a fucking lie. The better question is what happened each time Rabin, Barak and Olmert tabled offers to the Palis - met with nothing but more intafadahs. To this day, Bill Clinton is still pissed at the Palestinian side that "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
But hey, that screws with your Israel is evil charade, so have at it.
Israel is the occupying power, they decide when it ends.
Speaking of which, the occupation is illegal and the world did order Israel to end it and get the fuck out of Palestine.
No, a Netanyahuside is currently ongoing in Gaza:
Outrage at Israeli plan to take over Gaza City that could displace 1m Palestinians
Germany says it will halt arms deliveries to Israel amid growing international anger over planned operation
www.theguardian.com
Netanyahucide.No, a Netanyahuside is currently ongoing in Gaza:
Outrage at Israeli plan to take over Gaza City that could displace 1m Palestinians
Germany says it will halt arms deliveries to Israel amid growing international anger over planned operation
Stand tall Israel.
Other than China, the other countries are all Muslims terrorist states, or soon to be ones.
Has hamas releases all the hostages yet?No, a Netanyahuside is currently ongoing in Gaza:
Outrage at Israeli plan to take over Gaza City that could displace 1m Palestinians
Germany says it will halt arms deliveries to Israel amid growing international anger over planned operation
