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But Is It Genocide?

Klatuu

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Albanese is hardly neutral - the woman despises Israel and barely contains it.
Despises Israel? Let me restate my previous assertion - your lack of self awareness is staggering.

She’s got a helluva lot more backbone than any of the house Zionists on this board. She is virtually a lock for the Nobel Prize this year

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Uwauwa

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Agreed, zionists want to either kill them or push them into the sea.

There is no starvation in Gaza. All staged.




 

seanzo

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That is simply untrue. The goal of Zionism was (and is) to secure a homeland for the Jewish people where they had historically lived for thousands of years. A homeland where they would be a clear majority so as to not face threat of extinction.
That is the made for the goyim version that zionists have been gaslighting people about since the zionist project began in the late 19th century. Even within your statement lays bare the clear genocidal intent of zionism because in order for the zionists to have 'a homeland where they would be a clear majority and not face the threat of extinction.' They need to systematically purge the land of everyone who lived their prior to the zionists arrival.
 
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There is no starvation in Gaza. All staged.




Its too late for denial.

 
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Frankfooter

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“experts” my ass.
UN is an irrelevant and corrupt institution.


And why are you so quiet about true famine in Sudan?
The evidence is all there for everyone on the planet to see.
Zionism is a genocidal movement.

 
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niniveh

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No it's not genocide.


Gaza crisis ‘looks very much’ like genocide, senior EU official says
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Raed Salem Aslyieh, left, hugs his relatives after the death of his son from injuries sustained in an Israeli strike that killed eight other family members four months earlier, at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. Teresa Ribera, the European Commission’s second-highest ranking official, told Politico that Gaza’s population is ‘being targeted, killed and condemned to starve to death.’Jehad Alshrafi/The Associated

A senior member of the European Union’s executive said the displacement and killing in Gaza looked very much like genocide, the first commissioner to level that accusation and publicly break with the body’s position on the conflict.
“If it is not genocide, it looks very much like the definition used to express its meaning,” Teresa Ribera – the European Commission’s second-highest ranking official – told Politico in an interview published on Thursday.
Israel has repeatedly rejected accusations of carrying out genocide in its war in Gaza. Israel’s mission to the EU did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Ribera is the European Commission’s Executive Vice President, second only in seniority to President Ursula von der Leyen. The Spanish socialist, whose portfolio includes climate and anti-trust issues, is not responsible for EU foreign policy.
“What we are seeing is a concrete population being targeted, killed and condemned to starve to death,” Ribera told Politico.
Her statements went further than the European Commission, which has accused Israel of violating human rights in Gaza, but stopped short of accusing it of genocide.
The Commission last week proposed curbing Israeli access to its flagship research funding program after calls from EU countries to increase pressure on Israel to alleviate the humanitarian crisis in the enclave.
In that proposal, the Commission said Israel had violated a human rights clause in an agreement that governs its relations with the EU.
“With its intervention in the Gaza Strip and the ensuing humanitarian catastrophe, including thousands of civilian deaths and rapidly rising numbers of spreading extreme malnutrition, specifically of children, Israel is violating human rights and humanitarian law,” it wrote.
Israel has fended off accusations of genocide, including a case brought by South Africa at the International Court of Justice in the Hague that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned as “outrageous.”

The war was triggered when Hamas-led militants attacked Israeli communities and military bases near Gaza on October 7, 2023. About 1,200 people, including more than 700 civilians, were killed, and 251 hostages were taken to Gaza.
Israel’s military response has devastated the tiny, crowded enclave, killing more than 61,000 people, mostly civilians, according to Palestinian health authorities.
Israel has repeatedly said its actions in Gaza are justified as self-defence and accuses Hamas of using civilians as human shields, a charge the militant group denies.
 

niniveh

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No it's not genocide.


EXCLUSIVE: More American Voters Than Not Say Israel Is Committing Genocide in Gaza
A new Data for Progress poll finds a clear majority of American voters also wants the US to prioritize aid to Gaza over arms to Israel.
Ryan O'Donnell
Aug 07, 2025




Protesters call for a ceasefire in Gaza outside the UN on July 29, 2025. Photo by Stephanie Keith/Getty Images
In recent months, a hunger crisis has unfolded in Gaza as the Israeli government has severely restricted aid. More than 1,000 people seeking aid have been killed by Israeli forces, according to the United Nations.
People in Gaza are experiencing what experts have called a “worst-case scenario of famine” – a devastating shortage of food that is causing 1 in 3 people to go without eating for days at a time. Some parents have reported that their children have lost half their body weight.
In April 2024, Data for Progress polling found that 39% of voters believed that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. In a new survey, 47% of voters now believe Israel is committing genocide, compared with just 33% who say it isn’t — a margin of 14 points.


Additionally, a majority of voters (54%) – including 75% of Democrats and 59% of Independents – think the US should prioritize humanitarian aid for civilians in Gaza over military aid and weapons for Israel. Only 30% think the US should prioritize military aid and weapons for Israel.



In October 2023, two weeks after Hamas killed more than 1,200 people in Israel and Israel retaliated with a series of airstrikes on Gaza, 41% of voters agreed with the following statement: “Israel has committed human rights abuses against the people of Palestine.” By May 2025, this had risen to 50%. Today, a majority of voters (53%) agree that Israel has committed human rights abuses against Palestinians.


A strong majority of voters (71%) oppose the Israeli government blocking the delivery of food and medical supplies into Gaza, including 81% of Democrats, 69% of Independents, and 62% of Republicans.



A strong majority of voters (64%) also say that President Donald Trump “should demand that Israel let food and medical supplies into Gaza,” while only 26% say that he “should support Israel in carrying out its military strategies against Hamas.”


Together, these findings demonstrate that as Israel’s war and blockade of humanitarian aid have progressed, voters have become more critical of the Israeli government, increasingly believing the country is committing human rights abuses and genocide in Gaza. Voters across party lines oppose Israel blocking food and medical aid in Gaza, and want Trump to demand that Israel let aid into Gaza.
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Ryan O'Donnell is the interim executive director at Data for Progress.
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