Busted doing +50kms over speed limit. Any advice?

[Moraff]

I know i am new here but the way some of you jump all over people here you would think this is a church forum. Had he of said that he got busted at a massage parlour with his dick in someone's hand, would you be so harsh, a gamble is a gamble, this is where he got caught.

Big difference in these two situations... excessive speed increases your likelihood of being severely injured in an accident and may involve innocent parties.... extremely unlikely that getting caught in the MP will do the same. I have absolutely no problem with someone risking their life - as long as it doesn't include the possibility of including someone who hasn't made that decision. You want to drive fast - go to the track.

I for one have owned different "luxury cars" and agree with many other here. That from a simple stop with the pedal barely touched and without drawing attention (muffler or engine noises) you are easily hitting triple digit numbers. So on the highway it is almost a must to use cruise control.

I hear what you are saying, but as has been said before - if you can't control the vehicle then you shouldn't be driving it.

I feel for the OP...cruise control is our secret weapon. For those justifying the current speed limits, why do you not offer information about the horsepower cars had when these limits can into play, also look at the technology used today for safety.

Umm when those limits came into play we had muscle cars and all that, but that's irrelevant... given the push to go green and reduce our carbon footprint the only change you are likely to see in the speed limits is down not up.

 

[Mr. Piggy]

ok ok ...I know before I get flamed, I shouldn't have been speeding.

I was up north, wide open road. Got caught doing 142 in an 80km highway.

Ironic part is I was driving for all of 5 minutes, and just accelerated right into a trap!

So I had the pleasure of experiencing these new over 50 speeding laws.
http://www.50over.ca/

7 day suspension of liscence, impounded car.

Court ruling is this week as to what fine I should get. Any advice from anyone who's been here? Should I get representation? Just go in and hope for the best and plead my case?

Any commentary welcome....

Up north, on a wide open road, in an 80kph, zone is no reason or excuse to drive that fast. 142 k is 88 mph. What a fuckin ass you are. Hope your driving PRIVILEGE is suspended for at least a year and your insurance goes up to over $3000 a year. Your car should also be speed limited to 100kph.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Mr. Piggy]

I know i am new here but the way some of you jump all over people here you would think this is a church forum. Had he of said that he got busted at a massage parlour with his dick in someone's hand, would you be so harsh, a gamble is a gamble, this is where he got caught.

I for one have owned different "luxury cars" and agree with many other here. That from a simple stop with the pedal barely touched and without drawing attention (muffler or engine noises) you are easily hitting triple digit numbers. So on the highway it is almost a must to use cruise control.

I feel for the OP...cruise control is our secret weapon. For those justifying the current speed limits, why do you not offer information about the horsepower cars had when these limits can into play, also look at the technology used today for safety.

Cruise control is great but not all cars have it and of the ones that do, not everyone uses it. Besides self control is all that is required. You should know your car.

 

[johnhenrygalt]

He didn't have a choice in writing these ridiculous laws

But he votes for (or against) the people who do

, and as about five people have mentioned, if he drives a German sports car like I do, the car can easily handle those type of speeds without any loss of control. Go take a 7 series BMW for a spin and come back with a different opinion.

Then move to Germany if you don't like our laws.

Speed is not the problem on the highways.

The law begs to differ.

Many of us are perfectly capable of handling speed and not endangering lives.

Then buy your own land, build your own private road, and set your own rules. But if you drive on the public roads, quite your girly whining about how you don't like the rules.

We have completely outdated speed limits.

Take it up with your MPP.

Again, the system got him, he has every right to defend himself and use the system to his advantage.

Of course he's entitled to his day in court.

 

[Diode]

Doing 50+ over should also result in a fine for "supporting arab and Alberta oil terrorists".

Fuck the Arab oil monopoly....drive at 90KPH.

You'll stilll get to your destination although it may take you 5-10 minutes longer...big fucking deal.

Instead of driving fast, get your rocks off by fucking the ladies. If you have to drive fast for a thrill than you are a sad, pathetic speciman of maleness.

Again...I'm not advocating speeding. The damn speed limit should be raised to 180-200 km/h.
Because,
It would cause nervous drivers to use the secondary roads...where they should be
It would your attention 100% on driving...

Also..5-10 min more? What if your destination is 1000-1200 km away?
A 12 hour drive could easily be reduced to 6 hours.
Make the licensing as tough as can be.

The problem, if speed is a problem, is the DRIVER"S ABILITY....
Get all the crappy drivers off the road.

 

[Noir@heart]

Big difference in these two situations... excessive speed increases your likelihood of being severely injured in an accident and may involve innocent parties.... extremely unlikely that getting caught in the MP will do the same.....I have absolutely no problem with someone risking their life - as long as it doesn't include the possibility of including someone who hasn't made that decision. You want to drive fast - go to the track.

So you are under the impression that bare backing a professional in any manner only affects the the two of you......interesting.

Umm when those limits came into play we had muscle cars and all that, but that's irrelevant... given the push to go green and reduce our carbon footprint the only change you are likely to see in the speed limits is down not up.

He never got in an accident or suggested that when the LE pulled him over that he lost control due to excess speed. I suppose comparing muscle cars from today to then would be pointless. You are aware that manufacturers do make their cars in accordance to improving the carbon footprint. Regardless of the speed they can produce.

Even with that you are getting family sedans that have any where from 300-500+ horsepower. I do not want to even touch on the mad amount of horse power and torque "muscle cars" produce off the factory lines.

I wonder if some here think that because you can afford a certain type of vehicle that you should be punished and that is why there is such a hard line here. Many economy sized and North American vehicles struggle to go 120km so i can understand the shock of some thinking that at 180-200km the driver would be white knuckled and the car shaking and losing bolts. Trust the fact that is the furthest from the truth...go to a dealership and have a test drive.

 

[hunter001]

I wonder if some here think that because you can afford a certain type of vehicle that you should be punished and that is why there is such a hard line here.

Id doesn't really matter what one can afford it is about laws being applied equally to all. I have seen a lot of really bad drivers in "high end" cars and bad drivers in Neons. If you drive a "high end" car please learn to drive it with the limits that apply to a public road.

 

[oldjones]

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I for one have owned different "luxury cars" and agree with many other here. That from a simple stop with the pedal barely touched and without drawing attention (muffler or engine noises) you are easily hitting triple digit numbers. So on the highway it is almost a must to use cruise control.…edit…

Or look at the speedometer. I have been given to understand that is in fact it's purpose: so that the driver can regulate his speed.

Sorry, if you do not know how fast you are going, then you should not be driving.

Air line pilots can manage to keep track of lots more instruments. Perhaps that's one reason why they have such a vastly better safety record than drivers.

 

[Noir@heart]

Lol you are right i suppose. Driving on the highway this morning and had people rubber necking because it seems odd when you see potentially fast cars going the speed limit on the highway.

Id doesn't really matter what one can afford it is about laws being applied equally to all. I have seen a lot of really bad drivers in "high end" cars and bad drivers in Neons. If you drive a "high end" car please learn to drive it with the limits that apply to a public road.

 

[Noir@heart]

Or look at the speedometer. I have been given to understand that is in fact it's purpose: so that the driver can regulate his speed.

Your personal attacks go real far when dealing with an entity over the internet. Jones i do not believe an impression was giving that i am endorsing road-runners or that i am not capable of operating a motor vehicle.

Air line pilots can manage to keep track of lots more instruments. Perhaps that's one reason why they have such a vastly better safety record than drivers.

I suppose if most drivers had a trained and qualified co-driver to keep them in check the roads would be a better place. Or if they trained drivers to do more then coast in their cars, taking in the scenery, there might not be such concerns about speed.

 

[hunter001]

Lol you are right i suppose. Driving on the highway this morning and had people rubber necking because it seems odd when you see potentially fast cars going the speed limit on the highway.

You have a "potentially fast car" and you can't pay you 407 tolls?

 

[Moraff]

So you are under the impression that bare backing a professional in any manner only affects the the two of you......interesting.

Your original example postulated the client getting caught "with his dick in someone's hand" which to me implied getting a handjob. BB sex is a different situation altogether.

He never got in an accident or suggested that when the LE pulled him over that he lost control due to excess speed.

I don't believe I said that the OP did either of those things. I merely said that excessive speed increases the likelihood of those things happening.

I suppose comparing muscle cars from today to then would be pointless. You are aware that manufacturers do make their cars in accordance to improving the carbon footprint. Regardless of the speed they can produce.

You questioned as to the types of vehicles that were around when the hwy speed limits were set with the implication that they were slower/weaker vehicles than we have today.

Yes I am aware that vehicles today are greener than those of previous years. Are you aware that the faster you go, the worse your fuel economy becomes and therefore the larger your footprint becomes?

I wonder if some here think that because you can afford a certain type of vehicle that you should be punished and that is why there is such a hard line here.

Not me, just like I don't think that because you can afford a certain type of vehicle that you should be exempt from having to follow the rules either....

Many economy sized and North American vehicles struggle to go 120km
so i can understand the shock of some thinking that at 180-200km the driver would be white knuckled and the car shaking and losing bolts. Trust the fact that is the furthest from the truth...go to a dealership and have a test drive.

Lol, my Yaris does just fine at 120 and could likely go much faster so I don't think there are many newer-model cars out there that "struggle" to hit 120. I'm sure that the auto industry could turn out cars that were safe to drive at 200. The problem with having speeds that high is that the cost of a split second error in judgment becomes very high.

 

[Moraff]

Your personal attacks go real far when dealing with an entity over the internet. Jones i do not believe an impression was giving that i am endorsing road-runners or that i am not capable of operating a motor vehicle.

Umm weren't you the one who said you might not notice your car going from a complete stop to 100+? Perhaps you need a copilot?

I suppose if most drivers had a trained and qualified co-driver to keep them in check the roads would be a better place. Or if they trained drivers to do more then coast in their cars, taking in the scenery, there might not be such concerns about speed.

Or we could adopt the same system of control that air travel has - Traffic controllers and little black boxes - so that any infractions can be immediately dealt with.... <grin>

 

[Diode]

The strange thing is that none of you "anti-speed" types explain..why.
Its seems to be a simple..."Well I can't handle a higher speed limit...So there is no possible way, for sure, for ever, and ever, that someone else can't"

Lame...

 

[nlt76]

... "drivers' ability"
..."can't handle a higher speed, so no way someone else can't"

what's next? booze has no affect on you? ..condoms are for suckas? LOL

the thing is.. we don't give a fuck if you get in a single-vehicle accident.

 

[T.O.tourist]

... "... we don't give a fuck if you get in a single-vehicle accident.

Ding Ding Ding... We have a Winner.

 

[danmand]

The strange thing is that none of you "anti-speed" types explain..why.
Its seems to be a simple..."Well I can't handle a higher speed limit...So there is no possible way, for sure, for ever, and ever, that someone else can't"

Come on, dude, give it a rest. We have laws in Canada, and everybody has to
go by them, even Wayne Gretzky. I have an SL 500 that I can believe will drive safely at 240 km/hr, but I will never know.

If I could chose which laws to ignore, I would rather ignore some of the tax laws.

 

[hunter001]

the thing is.. we don't give a fuck if you get in a single-vehicle accident.

but please do this at night so removing your sorry ass from what is left of your car doesn't create a traffic backup.

 

[mymojosup]

It's funny how some of you keep on preaching that going 50 over is suicide.
I own a very fast sports car and it takes me two seconds to get from 100 to 150, and then two seconds to get back to 100. Most cars cannot shed 50km/h in two seconds since they where not build for that. I also never speed excesively in traffic and obey most laws.
Now am i a bigger menace for going 200km/h at 3AM on the 400 or the person going 90 in the fast lane?

How about the moron that does not signal?
How about the idiots who think that they are schumacher when they change lanes in traffic?
How about the cell phone yappin guy who is driving on two lanes?

Those people are much more dangerous then me or the OP who drive cars for a hobby.
If we would be able to drive half as good as in germany the problem would be solved imho.

 

[Garrett]

Now am i a bigger menace for going 200km/h at 3AM on the 400 or the person going 90 in the fast lane?

Oh that is an easy one. You are the bigger asshole (oops, I mean menace). There is no acceptable time to do 200km/h on the 400. However, there are many times when 90kmh is an acceptable speed in the fast lane (traffic density, rain, fog, snow, etc).

What do I win?

Better yet, does your lack of critical reasoning mean you are incapable of understanding the implications of speed? It would seem so.

I equate flagrant speeders with the guys who killed Jane Creba. Those shooters had no issue putting everyone around them at risk, and were able to create all sorts of justification why "collateral damage" was not their fault. Same thing here. It is a shame the driving laws are not tougher.