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Ray may suck without Pete Walker.
…..that’s what I was thinking too. I don’t think grunting on every pitch is going to win another Cy Young Award without Walker either. Walker has a way of keeping pitching mechanics together.

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Interesting..... Corey Seager signs big contract with Rangers, he'll make more than Marcus, I guess Semien will play 2nd base again, lol
 
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Robbie Ray’s $115 million is worth more in Seattle because Washington has no state income tax. That may have been a factor in his decision.
The draft pick compensation for each of Ray and Semien could also be a factor in the Jays' decision. They'll be in the 31-40 range next June. Gausman accepted a qualifying offer last year, so there's no compensation for him.

In an earlier post about compensation for losing free agents that received and declined the qualifying offer, some of my post was incorrect; the signing team DOES lose a draft pick, I'm not sure which one. The pick received by the team losing a free agent is dependent on their team payroll, with 'revenue sharing' small market teams getting higher picks, and teams above the luxury tax threshold receiving compensation in the fourth round.

Based on what they were paid, what they produced, and what they get back for losing them, the Jays made out like bandits on both Ray and Semien, (total salary of $26.9 Million for 2021). Based on the signing bonuses that will be paid, the prospects they get in return will be worth several million dollars. Taking a one year flyer on a free agent who would be eligible for a qualifying offer sounds like a great GM strategy - If Matz had had a good enough year to have been worth the QO, the prospect they would have gotten for losing him might have been more valuable than what he was paid. The same scenario could have also applied to Kirby Yates, he was also on a 1 year contract, and QO eligible. I hope other teams' GMs are not reading this thread!

The Raptors have used a similar strategy, acquiring a cheap player, developing him, and making no effort to re-sign him when he becomes a free agent, and would cost much more than he would be worth. A great example is Bismack Biyombo; the Raptors got a good season out of him for $3 Million. Orlando got a pine rider for $17 Million/ year for multiple years. Depleting other teams' salary caps with marginal talent that is difficult to unload on some other team is good NBA strategy.

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Walker has a way of keeping pitching mechanics together.

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I think that Walker can't wait to get his hands on Gausman (figuratively) who is probably still a work in progress. This is the 3rd year that the Jays pursued him.
 

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Clemens learned that from Nolan Ryan.
…..and I wouldn’t be surprised if he also learned about some of those career prolonged injectables. Lol. Ricky Henderson too. I mean cmon!

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I think that Walker can't wait to get his hands on Gausman (figuratively) who is probably still a work in progress. This is the 3rd year that the Jays pursued him.
Would have been nice if they could’ve kept at least Matz.
 

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Would have been nice if they could’ve kept at least Matz.
Yabut.

This year may have been a one-off in terms of wins and losses. I have no real idea but he may have had a lot of run support this year.

He has mediocre career stats. Career WHIP of 1.33. 1.32 last year. Career ERA of 4.24. Last year's stats were not a lot better.

I think a guy like him should not be too hard to replace. I'm hoping for Pearson to step up.
 

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Sean Manaea of the Oakland A's would be a good target. He becomes eligible for free agency after next season. He'll turn 30 before the 2022 season starts.
 

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From Sid Seixeiro: rumour that Freddie Freeman is close in signing with Jays
He has strong ties to Canada, although born in California, he is a Canadian citizen, father from Windsor, mother from Peterborough. He plays for Canada's national baseball team in int'l events.

He and Vladdy Jr can be platooned at 1st base and DH.

Semien who?????

This could be potential lineup

1-Springer CF
2-Bichette SS
3-Freeman 1B or DH
4-Guerrero Jr 1B or DH
5-Hernandez RF
6-Gurriel Jr LF
7-Biggio 3B
8-Espinal 2nd B
9-Kirk or Jansen Catcher
 
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From Sid Seixeiro: rumour that Freddie Freeman is close in signing with Jays
He has strong ties to Canada, although born in California, he is a Canadian citizen, father from Windsor, mother from Peterborough. He plays for Canada's national baseball team in int'l events.

He and Vladdy Jr can be platooned at 1st base and DH.

Semien who?????

This could be potential lineup

1-Springer CF
2-Bichette SS
3-Freeman 1B or DH
4-Guerrero Jr 1B or DH
5-Hernandez RF
6-Gurriel Jr LF
7-Biggio 3B
8-Espinal 2nd B
A modern day Murderer's Row.

BTW, I'd put Vlady 3rd because he hits for better average and Freddy may provide a tad more protection for him than Teo.
 
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Atlanta should be flush with cash after winning the WS. I'd have a hard time believing that Alex would not outbid the Jays no matter what it took. He did not leave here on good terms.
 

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Atlanta should be flush with cash after winning the WS. I'd have a hard time believing that Alex would not outbid the Jays no matter what it took. He did not leave here on good terms.
Hopefully Freeman wants to honour his mother 's memory (she died when he was 10) by playing in Canada.
 

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Freddie Freeman is in talks with the Yankees too they say and apparently he’s looking for a multiyear deal. I think like five years at 30+ million a year.

The Jays will never give anyone that until they get Vlady and Bo locked up.
 
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Only 3 1/2 hours left to sign free agents or make a trade.
 
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