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Phil C. McNasty

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2-1.

We got a run back :clap2:
 

mandrill

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Well, so far it's been about Dickey's control being off, the JPA passed balls and Cleveland's clutch DP's. Masterson's getting stronger.

I wish Bautista would stop sulking and whining whenever calls don't go his way. It's embarrassing and must piss the umpires off totally.
 

Toke

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Well, so far it's been about Dickey's control being off, the JPA passed balls and Cleveland's clutch DP's. Masterson's getting stronger.

I wish Bautista would stop sulking and whining whenever calls don't go his way. It's embarrassing and must piss the umpires off totally.
Left for an hour. missing the middle of the game, but Dickey's control seemed fine. JPA catching the ball seemed off.
 

Rockslinger

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Oh well, it's only one game. Let's not forget it's a long season. Even if we don't win the pennant in 2013, wait till next year.
 

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Rogers should refund all the ticket holders who had to pay to see this fiasco. Thought these guys were supposed to win the division. Look identical to last years team. No clutch hitting. Reyes starts off the game with a walk. Why wasn't he stealing...or hit and run? Isn't that what he does? If they play this conservative shit, I'll be some kinda pissed.
 

gcostanza

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Rogers should refund all the ticket holders who had to pay to see this fiasco. Thought these guys were supposed to win the division. Look identical to last years team. No clutch hitting. Reyes starts off the game with a walk. Why wasn't he stealing...or hit and run? Isn't that what he does? If they play this conservative shit, I'll be some kinda pissed.
Relax, there's only 161 more to go this season.

Every team wins ~60 games and loses ~60 games a season.
It's what you do with the other 42 that determine a champion.
I think it was Sparky who said this, but I've seen it credited to others as well.
 

BottomsUp

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Relax, there's only 161 more to go this season.

Every team wins ~60 games and loses ~60 games a season.
It's what you do with the other 42 that determine a champion.
I think it was Sparky who said this, but I've seen it credited to others as well.
Ok, so was this loss part of the 60 or the 42?
 

shack

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Relax, there's only 161 more to go this season.

Every team wins ~60 games and loses ~60 games a season.
It's what you do with the other 42 that determine a champion.
I think it was Sparky who said this, but I've seen it credited to others as well.
I like that quote as well, but I think it was with 54's. Every team will win at least 54 and every team will lose at least 54. It's the last 54 that separates all the teams.
 

mandrill

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Left for an hour. missing the middle of the game, but Dickey's control seemed fine. JPA catching the ball seemed off.
No, his walks were disproportionately high and out of wack compared to last year. Hopefully, this was just a blip.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I dont know where media got off on saying we had acquired a contending pitching staff anyways.

You have:

Buerhle 13-13 record last year, and he's 34 years old
R.A. Dickey 20-6 record last year, but that was the only 20-game win season of his career
J. A. Happ 3-2 record last year. 7-9 record the year before
Josh Johnson 8-14 record last year. Although he did have some good seasons before that
Brandon Morrow 10-7 record and a 2.96 ERA. He actually has some of the better credentials
 

Toke

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I dont know where media got off on saying we had acquired a contending pitching staff anyways.

You have:

Buerhle 13-13 record last year, and he's 34 years old
R.A. Dickey 20-6 record last year, but that was the only 20-game win season of his career
J. A. Happ 3-2 record last year. 7-9 record the year before
Josh Johnson 8-14 record last year. Although he did have some good seasons before that
Brandon Morrow 10-7 record and a 2.96 ERA. He actually has some of the better credentials
Sure, but all but Happ had an ERA under 4.00. Not saying this is the best rotation in the league, but better/deeper than most (top 5?).
 

gcostanza

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I dont know where media got off on saying we had acquired a contending pitching staff anyways.

You have:

Buerhle 13-13 record last year, and he's 34 years old
R.A. Dickey 20-6 record last year, but that was the only 20-game win season of his career
J. A. Happ 3-2 record last year. 7-9 record the year before
Josh Johnson 8-14 record last year. Although he did have some good seasons before that
Brandon Morrow 10-7 record and a 2.96 ERA. He actually has some of the better credentials
Wins mean little to nothing. They are an uncontrollable statistic for a pitcher.
 

gcostanza

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I like that quote as well, but I think it was with 54's. Every team will win at least 54 and every team will lose at least 54. It's the last 54 that separates all the teams.
Yes, I've seen it written that way as well. And it's true.
 

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No, his walks were disproportionately high and out of wack compared to last year. Hopefully, this was just a blip.
From watching the first part of the game on MLB gameday, he seemed to be missing the plate quite a lot.

His HR pitch to Cabrera however was right in the middle of the plate :frusty:
 

mandrill

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From watching the first part of the game on MLB gameday, he seemed to be missing the plate quite a lot.

His HR pitch to Cabrera however was right in the middle of the plate :frusty:
Certainly not dominant "ace of the best staff in baseball" stuff that he was billed as. But the "best batting order in baseball" wasn't doing much either.
 

mightymouse007

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I already knew dickey wont be as good as last year. The skydome/roger center is not good for knuckleball pitchers. We have pretty much lit up tim wakefield when he was pitching here. Not to say they are the same pitchers. I wouldnt be surprise if dickeys era is in the upper 3 to low 4. Josh thole needs to catch dickey in between. Too much pressure on jp to catch him.
 
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