Disgust is different from hate. The left wing doesn't want the right wingers to discriminate against women and minorities. They also want the rich to be taxed more and use the money on poor people to afford the stuggl8ng a better life. They believe in equal rights, a repossibiluty to the environment and reasonable gun control. The right wing believes that right wingers should never be prosecuted, that white males should make everyone belive in free access to guns, no women's rights, no rights for minorities, no rights for gays, religion only to be Christian. See a difference?
Biden vs Trump debate June 27
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As much as Trump’s supporters in the media complained about CNN “muzzling” Trump and treating him “unfairly”, I think the debate rules and structure actually helped Trump. The rules prevented Trump from interrupting, yelling, and acting like a lunatic. With that structure in place I think Trump actually carries/presents himself better.
I'd have to agree with this comment and add that I was one of the people who thought they were going to ''ambush'' Trump. Instead much to my surprise it was run tremendously. Has me looking differently at CNN now. Never thought I would say that.
Trump was well coached and seemed to listen for once. He constantly when asked a new question would disregard it and rebut Biden's last answer. Then he'd circle back and half answer the question with deflection. Always seemingly getting the last word. That's brilliant. That's coaching.
Biden looked lost and confused for the first half and then seemed to pick up some steam. Unfortunately for him the die was cast. Those sound bites are going to sink him. That ''cold'' lasted to long. My thinking is that whatever stimulant they gave him ( there's nothing wrong with that) didn't kick in fully until to late. Watching his wife take him off stage was rough...Listening to her introduce him at their gala afterwards so enlightening. She's his ''Nancy''.
Yes…I actually prefer this structure with no audience, microphones cut off, etc. Somehow over the years I think debates had become more about spectacle and less about substance. They should do it this way for future political debates in my opinion.
KB are you with us and following what's going on? Almost everyone said it would benefit Trump.
I thought Tapper and Bash would try to fact check Trump on the spot. (Remember when Candy Crowley erroneously fact checked Romney.)
The debate could have used having the moderators trying to get Trump to answer the question a few times. Instead, Trump was simply hitting his talking points regardless of the subject.
There might have been some genius on the Trump team allowing CNN to host the debate. Perhaps they were overly-concerned with looking impartial.
I don't remember did they ask Trump if he was going to cut taxes for corporations and high earners again? I believe his tax cuts expire soon.
Having no fact checkers is what makes this debate worth watching...Both sides sling the B.S. and then it's up to us to interpret what we've heard... Plus who fact checks the fact checkers.
I don't think Trump is a genius at anything...He doesn't have much of a rudder, he just goes full steam ahead. This time it happened to work out for him. On Jan 6th...It didn't.
That's a 10 year old article.Did you read this article I posted??
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.www.huffpost.com
80% of migrant women are raped by Mexicans
You clearly dont understand whats going on. The women who are being raped on the train coming through Mexico and into the US border are being raped by their fellow travellers. Below is an image of one of those trains. So when the train comes to its final destination just before the US border, all those men that did the raping are now trying to enter the US illegally
And here is just one example of an illegal immigrant committing rape once he got inside the US
nypost.com
Exclusive | Mayorkas must hand over docs on illegal migrants accused of heinous crimes, including disabled teen’s rape, NYPD mob attack: House subpoena
Mayorkas must produce long-awaited records on nine migrants suspected of sickening crimes, including the rape of a disabled teen girl and a mob assault on two NYPD cops.
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It's ok to rape if you claim to be a republican. Fraud tooYou clearly dont understand whats going on. The women who are being raped on the train coming through Mexico and into the US border are being raped by their fellow travellers. Below is an image of one of those trains. So when the train comes to its final destination just before the US border, all those men that did the raping are now trying to enter the US illegally
The story is another right wing lie. Bidens border policy turns back convicted felons and rapists like Trump. It's ironic that the right wing tries to create hysteria by claiming that rapists are allowed to come into America when in fact they are not and their leader is a proven rapist and fraud who rigged an election and tried to overturn another election
And here is just one example of an illegal immigrant committing rape once he got inside the US
Exclusive | Mayorkas must hand over docs on illegal migrants accused of heinous crimes, including disabled teen’s rape, NYPD mob attack: House subpoena
Mayorkas must produce long-awaited records on nine migrants suspected of sickening crimes, including the rape of a disabled teen girl and a mob assault on two NYPD cops.
There were two moments that should have stuck out but were buried in Biden's mental breakdown.
1) Trump using the word 'Palestine' as the new 'N' word.
2) Trump declaring he had a private conversation with Putin who told him he was going to invade Ukraine, which rump refused to share with the US or with Ukraine.
1) Trump using the word 'Palestine' as the new 'N' word.
2) Trump declaring he had a private conversation with Putin who told him he was going to invade Ukraine, which rump refused to share with the US or with Ukraine.
Read your own post more carefully next time, smartypants. I post the relevant parts in bold.
Here you clearly admit fellow migrants also do the raping, in addition to police, coyotes....etc
So Trump is correct, Mexico (and other Latin-American countries) are sending rapists, period.
He did not say all Mexicans are rapists
He did not say all are rapists. Here's what he said exactly.
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people”.
His statement is factually correct.
Nowhere does he say all Mexicans are rapists, he merely says that Mexico is sending a lot of rapists, drug dealers, and other criminals
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Trump won if this was the liars and deflection club debate. This was just plain sad.
Don't you see the irony of trump who is a known rapist consoling the mother of a rape victim ? He could give Teo fucks about a girl getting raped but he shamelessly used it as a pr stunt to show to make Biden look bad. If Trump really cared about Americans he would visit ever rape victim including e Jean carrol
One factor to consider is that of audience feedback.
And I am in no way saying that Trump didn't kill it in the debate and Biden fail miserably.
Trump gets HIGH off the adulation and feedback of the crowd. And gets carried away and exhibits classic ADHD verbal diarrhea. So when he didn't have that feedback, and had some Come-Jesus-Moment coaching, he didn't go off in lunatic rants. Although lying as usual, he presented very well and canme across as sincere and "Presidential".
Joe on the other hand, evidently needs that human interaction/feedback to get his energy. He looked like a deer in the headlights looking around aimlessly and had "Resting Idiot Face" when not speaking.
I also think that Biden may have been overly coached to go on attack mode in a way that was not authentic to what his authentic candid responses may be. For example. In response to whatever the first question was, Joe went off on a rapid fire, anti-Trump diatribe and tried to point out every single fault and transgression of Trump. Yet didn't answer the question!
That is not like Biden to my impression of him over the years. When commenting on Israel for example, he may go off and blame Hamas for the recent attacks etc, but he doesn't normally go off on other arab/muslim transgressions. (I am only using this as. an example...NOT commenting on his actual position... just as an example of his ability to stay relatively on the direct question.)
So, when Joe has to perform for a camera lens, and has also been coached and rehearsed for the weekend to make sure he goes on the attack on every one of these x,y,z points... I think that works against him.
I also think that that lack of audience feedback also was beneficial to Trump so he didn't get that adrenaline high that causes his incoherent rants and episodes. That often lead to him mis-speaking words or names in the rush of the moment.
One excuse that I might make for old Joe is that one bad night of sleep can really fuck you up. Especially as you get older. And especially if you've had a stressful week with other bad sleeps.
All the more reason to consider age limits in certain fields when you are dealing with the public. Wisdom can overcome much of the performance advantage of youth. But only to a point in some areas.
Too bad there were only these two choices in the US
