Biden vs Trump debate June 27

[Phil C. McNasty]

Here's the Huffington Post article Trump was referring to (Huff Post btw is very left-wing news outlet)

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Because there's nothing to own up to.

I believe in strong borders, but I would never want to close them off for all immigrants.
I also support curtailing muslim immigration from countries that are hotbeds for terrorism, but I would never be against all immigration from all muslim countries.

These are the exact same thing Trump espouses to

The things you are describing are all things Trump tried to do in 2017. Trump’s Muslim ban was jammed up in the courts for months because it was so blatantly racist and unconstitutional.

At some point, if you support a fascist that pretty much means you’re a fascist too…and continuing to deny this obvious truth is exactly the kinda bs I am talking about.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

No, The KKK does not hate blacks because they think they commit crime. They hate blacks because they think they are sub-human and consider them to be genetically predisposed to crime. That is a hateful characterization of an entire demographic group and that is why they are a hate group.

Hating a specific black criminal for a crime however, would not be hateful. That is not what the KKK is doing.

So hating the KKK is justified. KKK's hate on the other hand is not.

No, it is not.

Trump wanted a Muslim registry along with a Muslim ban. The registry did not come to fruition and Biden reversed the muslim ban executive order. Since then were no security risks that transpired from those countries. So clearly he was in the wrong and his efforts to limit immigration from those countries was borne out of pure hate.

Even using your own article you have presented defeats Trump's assertion you are trying to defend which is that most Mexicans migrants are rapists. The article shows that the majority of migrants tend to be victims of crimes, not perpetrators. So this was clearly hateful ethnic stereotyping and demonization of migrants and assylum seekers by Trump

Did you read this article I posted??

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

www.huffpost.com

80% of migrant women are raped by Mexicans

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The things you are describing are all things Trump tried to do in 2017. Trump’s Muslim ban was jammed up in the courts for months because it was so blatantly racist and unconstitutional.

At some point, if you support a fascist that pretty much means you’re a fascist too…and continuing to deny this obvious truth is exactly the kinda bs I am talking about

Trump did get the ban through.
If I remember correctly it was 5 or 6 Muslim countries that were banned from traveling to the US.

This was at a time when there was a lot of terrorism committed by Muslims around the world.
I don't blame Trump one bit for that ban

 

[Leimonis]

This was at a time when there was a lot of terrorism committed by Muslims around the world.

I don’t remember any other time just saying

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Trump did get the ban through.
If I remember correctly it was 5 or 6 Muslim countries that were banned from traveling to the US.

This was at a time when there was a lot of terrorism committed by Muslims around the world.
I don't blame Trump one bit for that ban

Fascists always claim to have reasons that justify their fascism. It doesn’t mitigate the fact that it is still fascism.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Fascists always claim to have reasons that justify their fascism. It doesn’t mitigate the fact that it is still fascism

Keeping the country safe has nothing to do with fascism

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Going by some of the Lefty posters here on Terb I'd say most left-wingers are just as hateful as some right-wingers, if not more so

Disgust is different from hate. The left wing doesn't want the right wingers to discriminate against women and minorities. They also want the rich to be taxed more and use the money on poor people to afford the stuggl8ng a better life. They believe in equal rights, a repossibiluty to the environment and reasonable gun control. The right wing believes that right wingers should never be prosecuted, that white males should make everyone belive in free access to guns, no women's rights, no rights for minorities, no rights for gays, religion only to be Christian. See a difference?

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806854578966614283

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806852868848160976

 

[Knuckle Ball]

As much as Trump’s supporters in the media complained about CNN “muzzling” Trump and treating him “unfairly”, I think the debate rules and structure actually helped Trump. The rules prevented Trump from interrupting, yelling, and acting like a lunatic. With that structure in place I think Trump actually carries/presents himself better.

 

[The Oracle]

As much as Trump’s supporters in the media complained about CNN “muzzling” Trump and treating him “unfairly”, I think the debate rules and structure actually helped Trump. The rules prevented Trump from interrupting, yelling, and acting like a lunatic. With that structure in place I think Trump actually carries/presents himself better.

I'd have to agree with this comment and add that I was one of the people who thought they were going to ''ambush'' Trump. Instead much to my surprise it was run tremendously. Has me looking differently at CNN now. Never thought I would say that.

Trump was well coached and seemed to listen for once. He constantly when asked a new question would disregard it and rebut Biden's last answer. Then he'd circle back and half answer the question with deflection. Always seemingly getting the last word. That's brilliant. That's coaching.

Biden looked lost and confused for the first half and then seemed to pick up some steam. Unfortunately for him the die was cast. Those sound bites are going to sink him. That ''cold'' lasted to long. My thinking is that whatever stimulant they gave him ( there's nothing wrong with that) didn't kick in fully until to late. Watching his wife take him off stage was rough...Listening to her introduce him at their gala afterwards so enlightening. She's his ''Nancy''.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

I'd have to agree with this comment and add that I was one of the people who thought they were going to ''ambush'' Trump. Instead much to my surprise it was run tremendously. Has me looking differently at CNN now. Never thought I would say that.

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Yes…I actually prefer this structure with no audience, microphones cut off, etc. Somehow over the years I think debates had become more about spectacle and less about substance. They should do it this way for future political debates in my opinion.

 

[WyattEarp]

As much as Trump’s supporters in the media complained about CNN “muzzling” Trump and treating him “unfairly”, I think the debate rules and structure actually helped Trump. The rules prevented Trump from interrupting, yelling, and acting like a lunatic. With that structure in place I think Trump actually carries/presents himself better.

KB are you with us and following what's going on? Almost everyone said it would benefit Trump.

 

[WyattEarp]

I'd have to agree with this comment and add that I was one of the people who thought they were going to ''ambush'' Trump. Instead much to my surprise it was run tremendously. Has me looking differently at CNN now. Never thought I would say that.

I thought Tapper and Bash would try to fact check Trump on the spot. (Remember when Candy Crowley erroneously fact checked Romney.)

The debate could have used having the moderators trying to get Trump to answer the question a few times. Instead, Trump was simply hitting his talking points regardless of the subject.

There might have been some genius on the Trump team allowing CNN to host the debate. Perhaps they were overly-concerned with looking impartial.

I don't remember did they ask Trump if he was going to cut taxes for corporations and high earners again? I believe his tax cuts expire soon.

 

[The Oracle]

The debate could have used having the moderators trying to get Trump to answer the question a few times. Instead, Trump was simply hitting his talking points regardless of the subject.

There might have been some genius on the Trump team allowing CNN to host the debate. Perhaps they were overly-concerned with looking impartial.

Having no fact checkers is what makes this debate worth watching...Both sides sling the B.S. and then it's up to us to interpret what we've heard... Plus who fact checks the fact checkers.

I don't think Trump is a genius at anything...He doesn't have much of a rudder, he just goes full steam ahead. This time it happened to work out for him. On Jan 6th...It didn't.

 

[Frankfooter]

Did you read this article I posted??

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

www.huffpost.com

80% of migrant women are raped by Mexicans

That's a 10 year old article.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And so what if 80% of migrant women from Mexico are raped by Mexicans? That is like saying almost 100% of Canadian women are raped by Canadians, and therefore ALL Canadians are rapists. It is still a racist statement.

However, Trump's statement was that - "They are sending rapists". Meaning he said that migrants coming to the US were rapists. Your article said that migrants were VICTIMS of rape. I mean heck, its precisely because they are victims that they are seeking refuge. And that the perpetrators could be anybody. So again, it does not justify Trump's statement in any way

You clearly dont understand whats going on. The women who are being raped on the train coming through Mexico and into the US border are being raped by their fellow travellers. Below is an image of one of those trains. So when the train comes to its final destination just before the US border, all those men that did the raping are now trying to enter the US illegally

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And here is just one example of an illegal immigrant committing rape once he got inside the US

Exclusive | Mayorkas must hand over docs on illegal migrants accused of heinous crimes, including disabled teen’s rape, NYPD mob attack: House subpoena

Mayorkas must produce long-awaited records on nine migrants suspected of sickening crimes, including the rape of a disabled teen girl and a mob assault on two NYPD cops.

nypost.com

 

[dirtydaveiii]

You clearly dont understand whats going on. The women who are being raped on the train coming through Mexico and into the US border are being raped by their fellow travellers. Below is an image of one of those trains. So when the train comes to its final destination just before the US border, all those men that did the raping are now trying to enter the US illegally

It's ok to rape if you claim to be a republican. Fraud too