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Balancing a crush on an SP

Schmuz

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In my case, my SP crush gave me all this info. I truly thought I was 'in.' In hindsight, I'm thrilled she didn't go for me, because I could never have handled her lifestyle. But man, back in that moment, the most insane addictive sex I will likely ever experience....so I have those memories anyways.
At the end of the day, the only things that we leave this world with are memories and awareness. I too have memories that I would never part with even given the; emotional, psychological and financial costs. I could have been a better person. Sometimes I regret not having been, but I believe that everything happens for a reason.
 

Jenesis

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Schmuz was giving an informed view of what he perceived to be the real genesis of attachment experienced by others here. He could be a clinical psychologist or social worker or union leader or project manager and be dealing with scores of people. You don't know anything about him which makes you the one throwing accusations indiscriminately. He made some generalizations about women in this industry. And they are generalizations. As Nazia pointed out, it doesn't apply or reflect her personal experiences or goals while doing sex work. So No, it doesn't apply to EVERYONE in the industry but that doesn't discount the neuroscience behind what he stated. He wasn't attacking your sex worker so not sure why you felt the need to denigrate him. Do better.
He doesn’t know anything about us. He doesn’t know a majority of us or even half of us. I bet even a quarter of us. Making generalizations wrong for a reason. He should do better.
 

southpaw

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Making generalizations wrong for a reason. He should do better.
I cant speak for Schmuz or anyone else, but I make one generalization about this hobby. The men trade money for sex. The women do the reverse. It's the only one I make.
 

princekwekua

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I don't understand your argument. So he should publicly declare himself to others that he's on this platform in order to have a view? He's not writing an essay and he doesn't have to reference sources. If someone is interested in what's said (i.e. limbic system stimuli), they can easily search online or (what's sadly rarer these days) read a book. This is a message board - not an academic journal of study.

What's wrong with 'hiding your membership'? Everyone here could be considered a type of deviant to some degree. And pretty much everyone here uses a pseudonym. Even the sex workers use fake names (Sorry, she's not REALLY called Esmerelda) and I can't fault anyone for doing that. I'm quite sure you're not a real 'prince' nor do you tell your close ones that you're a 60+ year old grandpa ploughing some 20+year old sex worker for $$$.
He is being sanctimonious. Cheers
 

Josephine

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This is when you see that some guys here are mad that they pay for it so they have to.come up with some sort of weird rationalization to place themselves above the people they pay. Like they don't have issues themselves. Being here paying for us yet looking down on us is a big one but if that helps you sleep at night right?!

I genuinely care about my clients, I do not display any narcissistic behavior, I was raised in a normal home and occupied a "normal" job most of my life. You do need a special personality to do this job but you don't need a special set of issues. As a person, I refuse to fall under the pressure of getting married, having 2,1 children, a golden retriever and a bungalow in the suburb. I like the perspective of a childless life, dating multiple men that treats me well enough without engagement and live a life of travel and discovery. I have also great friends in a out of the industry AND a good family support system that are enough for me when it comes to the amount of love I need in my life. I am tired of being reduced to a certain psychological profile based on the retrograde bias of society because IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL BETTER TO LOOK AT SW LIKE THAT. Enough.

It's 2025. Would be great if we would evolved a bit.
 

Daddy2021

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This is when you see that some guys here are mad that they pay for it so they have to.come up with some sort of weird rationalization to place themselves above the people they pay. Like they don't have issues themselves. Being here paying for us yet looking down on us is a big one but if that helps you sleep at night right?!

I genuinely care about my clients, I do not display any narcissistic behavior, I was raised in a normal home and occupied a "normal" job most of my life. You do need a special personality to do this job but you don't need a special set of issues. As a person, I refuse to fall under the pressure of getting married, having 2,1 children, a golden retriever and a bungalow in the suburb. I like the perspective of a childless life, dating multiple men that treats me well enough without engagement and live a life of travel and discovery. I have also great friends in a out of the industry AND a good family support system that are enough for me when it comes to the amount of love I need in my life. I am tired of being reduced to a certain psychological profile based on the retrograde bias of society because IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL BETTER TO LOOK AT SW LIKE THAT. Enough.

It's 2025. Would be great if we would evolved a bit.
bravo sweetheart. I agree. You can just feel the disdain ooozing from a lot of these guys that post on here.
 
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Josephine

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This is when you see that some guys here are mad that they pay for it so they have to.come up with some sort of weird rationalization to place themselves above the people they pay. Like they don't have issues themselves. Being here paying for us yet looking down on us is a big one but if that helps you sleep at night right?!

I genuinely care about my clients, I do not display any narcissistic behavior, I was raised in a normal home and occupied a "normal" job most of my life. You do need a special personality to do this job but you don't need a special set of issues. As a person, I refuse to fall under the pressure of getting married, having 2,1 children, a golden retriever and a bungalow in the suburb. I like the perspective of a childless life, dating multiple men that treats me well enough without engagement and live a life of travel and discovery. I have also great friends in a out of the industry AND a good family support system that are enough for me when it comes to the amount of love I need in my life. I am tired of being reduced to a certain psychological profile based on the retrograde bias of society because IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL BETTER TO LOOK AT SW LIKE THAT. Enough.

It's 2025. Would be great if we would evolved a bit.
I would add that there are as many psychological profile and stories that brings people into sex work as stories that bring people to pay for sex work. Bottom line you pay for me and I provide the services. What makes you better?
 

GuySmiley

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I would add that there are as many psychological profile and stories that brings people into sex work as stories that bring people to pay for sex work. Bottom line you pay for me and I provide the services. What makes you better?
Nothing makes the client 'better' than the sex worker. Personally, I don't look down on sex work at all as at the time it certainly helped me at points of my life when I didn't feel as desirable. I could definitely suspend my disbelief for the hour or 2 hours than i saw someone in order to make me feel positive about myself. At least, that's what I needed to mentally subsist at the time.

I'd go out on a limb and state the clients probably have much bigger psych issues in their lives as most of the sex workers I met and the 2 I got especially close to were very driven, mentally sound, and focused.
 

peeler_feeler

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I'd go out on a limb and state the clients probably have much bigger psych issues in their lives as most of the sex workers I met and the 2 I got especially close to were very driven, mentally sound, and focused.
Truth.

A few I have got to know well were focused on their goals and used the advantages of great income of this industry along with great network connections from meeting C-suite level clients to establish a great future.
 

massman

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This is when you see that some guys here are mad that they pay for it so they have to.come up with some sort of weird rationalization to place themselves above the people they pay. Like they don't have issues themselves. Being here paying for us yet looking down on us is a big one but if that helps you sleep at night right?!

I genuinely care about my clients, I do not display any narcissistic behavior, I was raised in a normal home and occupied a "normal" job most of my life. You do need a special personality to do this job but you don't need a special set of issues. As a person, I refuse to fall under the pressure of getting married, having 2,1 children, a golden retriever and a bungalow in the suburb. I like the perspective of a childless life, dating multiple men that treats me well enough without engagement and live a life of travel and discovery. I have also great friends in a out of the industry AND a good family support system that are enough for me when it comes to the amount of love I need in my life. I am tired of being reduced to a certain psychological profile based on the retrograde bias of society because IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL BETTER TO LOOK AT SW LIKE THAT. Enough.

It's 2025. Would be great if we would evolved a bit.
🤗👍🏻🤘!!!
 
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I keep writing a response to this thread and then deleting it. Sex is always at least a little bit personal. I think both sides make mistakes, but hopefully we learn and grow. I certainly have. I think we should have the humility to know that there are emotional landscapes that we have not yet explored, new territory, and if we navigate them carefully we can end up in better places. Like amazing foods that we have not yet tried. And oddly enough, when my mind is in the right place with someone, my physical enjoyment is greatly enhanced. I seem to like "compensated FWB". I have a few good friends. We might not talk to each other for years, but when we do we always enjoy each other. And that is a good way to be with escorts. With friends we have a freedom that we do not have with lovers.
 

that6969

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I had a SP once during a session tell me she loves me lmfao. I stopped seeing her and ignored the comment while we were intimate. She was mentioning a few times wanting to be with me but no chance that would ever happen. She had a few issues that I already knew wouldn't work out even if we lived together.
 
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GuySmiley

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I keep writing a response to this thread and then deleting it. Sex is always at least a little bit personal. I think both sides make mistakes, but hopefully we learn and grow. I certainly have. I think we should have the humility to know that there are emotional landscapes that we have not yet explored, new territory, and if we navigate them carefully we can end up in better places. Like amazing foods that we have not yet tried. And oddly enough, when my mind is in the right place with someone, my physical enjoyment is greatly enhanced. I seem to like "compensated FWB". I have a few good friends. We might not talk to each other for years, but when we do we always enjoy each other. And that is a good way to be with escorts. With friends we have a freedom that we do not have with lovers.
I'd disagree. Sex needn't always be personal and sex work absolutely shouldn't be personal. (And sure, you can dive into an exploration of what 'personal' means but that's another topic). Sex work is a business. This doesn't mean it can't be friendly, respectful, enjoyable, etc. Of course it should be! Just like any other proper business, both parties should be satisfied.

At the end of the day, and to safeguard yourself as a client, you should not view it as real relationship because it is not intended to be one. As I said in another thread, if you consider this a 'real' relationship, you really need to explore life more. I just roll my eyes when guys type, "oh, we had a connection". Sure you did. That connection has a price tag. That connection is based on the catalyst of money. That's not connection; that's a transaction. If you bring what I would consider to be any real emotions to it, you're doomed. Is that cynicism? Does it allow for the possibility of something? I can't say for sure but how many wedding speeches have you heard that started off about that first meet in a hotel room or massage parlour? ;) Any clients out there that ended up being in serious relationship/marriage with their sex worker? Feel free to chime in.

The whole thread initially started as the OP was relating some emotional realizations they were having about who they were seeing.
People have this horrible habit of self-denial and seeing whatever they want to see and I don't think sex work is immune to this tendency.
I will say there were some interesting perspectives (especially those from sex workers themselves) that led this to be a genuinely interesting thread.
 

Leipani

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The problem with dating an sp is their lack of sex drive. When she fucks 20-30 other men per week, it just feels like she has no interest in it with me.
 

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I'd disagree. Sex needn't always be personal and sex work absolutely shouldn't be personal. (And sure, you can dive into an exploration of what 'personal' means but that's another topic). Sex work is a business. This doesn't mean it can't be friendly, respectful, enjoyable, etc. Of course it should be! Just like any other proper business, both parties should be satisfied.

At the end of the day, and to safeguard yourself as a client, you should not view it as real relationship because it is not intended to be one. As I said in another thread, if you consider this a 'real' relationship, you really need to explore life more. I just roll my eyes when guys type, "oh, we had a connection". Sure you did. That connection has a price tag. That connection is based on the catalyst of money. That's not connection; that's a transaction. If you bring what I would consider to be any real emotions to it, you're doomed. Is that cynicism? Does it allow for the possibility of something? I can't say for sure but how many wedding speeches have you heard that started off about that first meet in a hotel room or massage parlour? ;) Any clients out there that ended up being in serious relationship/marriage with their sex worker? Feel free to chime in.

The whole thread initially started as the OP was relating some emotional realizations they were having about who they were seeing.
People have this horrible habit of self-denial and seeing whatever they want to see and I don't think sex work is immune to this tendency.
I will say there were some interesting perspectives (especially those from sex workers themselves) that led this to be a genuinely interesting thread.
I can’t really disagree with you but I do have friendships with people I do business with. Escorts do prefer some customers over others regardless of how much they pay. That is not about love or sex, but mutual respect and enjoying each other’s company. A lot of people take the posture that they understand how things really are and that the rest of us are fools. I think the models we make of human interaction need to be continually refined. Things are usually more complicated and nuanced than can be summarized with simple theories. But, what the fuck, let’s try a theory: if you find yourself “falling in like”, move forward. If you find yourself “falling in love”, take a back step.
 
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