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Auston Matthews

JohnLarue

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You can see where it's going. Matthews has a nervous rush and doesn't seem to have the play maker's mind like a Marner or Crosby or McDavid. He is big, skates well and will be a top 10 Center in the league but no game changer.


Laine is massive and can't be taken off the puck. He is a point shooter and once he parks himself there they can not move him. His shot is absolutely unstoppable and scary. He's like Sundin with a more lethal shot and his attitude is a nice extremely confident one where he wants to be the best.He will be a top 4 guy in NHL.

The guys who claim Matthews is the true #1 are just Leaf jock riders. If Matthews went #2 and Laine #1 they would be arguing Laine was the better player. NHL Scouts had them 52-48 for Matthews. That's a damn close margin. IMO Laine will emerge as the true #1, not saying Matthews is chopped liver but he won't even be #1 on the Leafs much less the league
Not at all
Anyone with an ounce of hockey sense will know you can not judge a player value 20 games into their rookie season.
Personally I suspect both will have great careers & the debate of which is better will still be a discussion long after both have retired

Give your head a shake, this is way to early to be so definitive
 

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Matthews finally score a game winner and the Leafs win for the first time when Matthews scores a goal.
 
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Not at all
Anyone with an ounce of hockey sense will know you can not judge a player value 20 games into their rookie season.
Personally I suspect both will have great careers & the debate of which is better will still be a discussion long after both have retired

Give your head a shake, this is way to early to be so definitive

Matthews is playing on a better team with a better coach. If Laine had that he would be about 4-5 points above where he is now. Laine is the true Number 1.
 

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Matthews is playing on a better team with a better coach. If Laine had that he would be about 4-5 points above where he is now. Laine is the true Number 1.
Matthews does have a better coach but not yet a better team and more important not yet better linemates. Laine plays more minutes and plays with a star on the rise in Mark Scheifele. Matthews has a good coach and good upper management (finally) and is being developed into an solid number one centre. In their first seasons Ovechkin had more points than Crosby...Crosby developed into a dominant number one centre who would captain his team to Stanley Cups and also fill up his trophy cabinet with gold medals.

Nobody can decide yet who will be the better player but the smart money says a dominant number one centre will be more valuable to his team and have a better career when measured in team success. I am sure Matthews will happily end his career with less goals than Laine if he wins more games and has a Stanley Cup or two...if actually leads the Leafs to a Cup ( a big if I agree) he will have a legendary status that no amount of goals from Laine will match.
 
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Matthews does have a better coach but not yet a better team and more important not yet better linemates. Laine plays more minutes and plays with a star on the rise in Mark Scheifele. Matthews has a good coach and good upper management (finally) and is being developed into an solid number one centre. In their first seasons Ovechkin had more points than Crosby...Crosby developed into a dominant number one centre who would captain his team to Stanley Cups and also fill up his trophy cabinet with gold medals.

Nobody can decide yet who will be the better player but the smart money says a dominant number one centre will be more valuable to his team and have a better career when measured in team success. I am sure Matthews will happily end his career with less goals than Laine if he wins more games and has a Stanley Cup or two...if actually leads the Leafs to a Cup ( a big if I agree) he will have a legendary status that no amount of goals from Laine will match.

Ahh yeah............

As of now TML are better than the jets. Score more goals and have more wins etc. They are better in every way.

Imagine Laine on the TML with Kadri, Bozak, Brown, JVR, Komorov??? He would be number 1 among all rookies by a long shot.
 

gcostanza

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Imagine Laine on the TML with Kadri, Bozak, Brown, JVR, Komorov??? He would be number 1 among all rookies by a long shot.
He would be number 1?
So, you admit that he is not number 1.
Glad we've got that all cleared up.
 
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He would be number 1?
So, you admit that he is not number 1.
Glad we've got that all cleared up.


In the points standings.....but I was wrong about that since Laine is #1 . The true #1 , Laine, is actually #1 in the standings so I stand corrected. The true number one pick is performing as expected.

Now imagine if he had team mates such as JVR or Bozak or Marner or the hands of Nylander? Damn scary.Imagine if Laine had the benefit of a Fast mobile D? He would be easily at 25-30 points.
 

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In the points standings.....but I was wrong about that since Laine is #1 . The true #1 , Laine, is actually #1 in the standings so I stand corrected. The true number one pick is performing as expected.

Now imagine if he had team mates such as JVR or Bozak or Marner or the hands of Nylander? Damn scary.Imagine if Laine had the benefit of a Fast mobile D? He would be easily at 25-30 points.
Two points ...
A) could you fit a few more #1s in there ?

B) We Leafs, well me and I imagine other Leafs fans, wish we had Scheifele and you are saying the Leafs have better players then him just to make your argument.



That said the Leafs made the correct choice in Matthews first overall. They needed a true first line NHL center.
 
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Two points ...
A) could you fit a few more #1s in there ?

B) We Leafs, well me and I imagine other Leafs fans, wish we had Scheifele and you are saying the Leafs have better players then him just to make your argument.



That said the Leafs made the correct choice in Matthews first overall. They needed a true first line NHL center.

Your argument holds zero water. The true Number one, sans scheifele, won the game single handily. 2 points and that shot!!!!!! He will prove to be the true number 1. Currently tied with Crosby as goal leader!!!! Number one pick? Nah, number one over all at this pace.
 

kyleb899

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Patrik Laine is better than Auston Matthews, Patrik Laine loves scoring goals.
Patrik Laine will win rookie of the year award . He probably the best 18 year old rookie since Sidney Crosby 05/06 season
Who cares about crappy loser Leafs, the leafs are a joke of team. The leafs are the worst original 6 team ever. The other original 6 teams had won the cup 1993 and after.
 

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Patrik Laine is better than Auston Matthews, Patrik Laine loves scoring goals.
Patrik Laine will win rookie of the year award . He probably the best 18 year old rookie since Sidney Crosby 05/06 season
Who cares about crappy loser Leafs, the leafs are a joke of team. The leafs are the worst original 6 team ever. The other original 6 teams had won the cup 1993 and after.
One trick pony.
 

workingstiff

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Yeah but his one trick is scoring goals which you know.. win games
Goals win games. Dominant number one centres (and defencemen) win championships. Anybody who has ever played hockey at anything close to a competitive level would happily trade a scoring title for a championship!
 
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