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Attack on Syria is it justified ?

evodevo

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And Iran???
And Iran what? Iran hasn't initiated any wars with anyone for the past ~200 years but I guess if all your "news" is from the BBC and CNN then I would understand why one would think Iran would launch military strikes.

Based on actual behaviour Isarel is more likely to carry out strikes, pre-emptively of course, and out of self-defense obviously. Oh wait, they already did that a few months ago.
 

Fallsguy

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Yes the US is justified in attacking Syria and hitting Assad with everything they've got. He's a murderer and a thug who has used chemical weapons against his own people. The only question is will they hit him hard enough, or at all? Unfortunately most of the US "allies" are backing out, while Russia and China, for their own shelfish reasons, are backing Asad to the hilt. So, hit him and hit him hard. Give him a lesson he won't forget. But will they?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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And Iran what? Iran hasn't initiated any wars with anyone for the past ~200 years
Thats no guarantee they wont initiate wars in the future

I guess if all your "news" is from the BBC and CNN then I would understand why one would think Iran would launch military strikes
I get my news from all sources, be it Left- or Right-wing.

Also Iran has publicly said they might strike Israel out of retaliation:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/world/middleeast/syria-iran-israel.html?_r=0

Strike on Syria Would Lead to Retaliation on Israel, Iran Warns

Iranian lawmakers and commanders issued stark warnings to the United States and its allies on Tuesday, saying any military strike on Syria would lead to a retaliatory attack on Israel fanned by “the flames of outrage.”

The warnings came against a backdrop of rising momentum among Western governments for a military intervention in the Syrian conflict over what the United States, Britain, France and others have called undeniable evidence that President Bashar al-Assad’s forces used banned chemical weapons on civilians last week, killing hundreds. Mr. Assad has accused the insurgents who are trying to topple him of using such munitions.

Iran, which itself came under chemical weapons assault by Iraq during its eight-year war in the 1980s, has been a loyal ally of the Syrian government. Iranian hard-liners often say Syria is Iran’s first trench in a potential war with hostile Western powers. Iran has blamed Israel for the conflict in Syria, saying Israel is trying to bring down Mr. Assad.

“In case of a U.S. military strike against Syria, the flames of outrage of the region’s revolutionaries will point toward the Zionist regime,” the semiofficial Fars news agency quoted Mansur Haqiqatpur, an influential member of Parliament, as saying on Tuesday.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said Tuesday after security meetings in Tel Aviv that, “The State of Israel is ready for any scenario. We are not part of the civil war in Syria but if we identify any attempt whatsoever to harm us, we will respond and we will respond in strength.”

Iran has always taken the moral high ground on the issue of chemical weapons, actively opposing their use. If it turns out that Mr. Assad’s side deployed the weapons, it will be difficult for Iranian leaders to explain their support for Mr. Assad to their people, analysts point out.

A potential military intervention by the United States in Syria also represents a test for Iran’s new president, Hassan Rouhani, who condemned the use of chemical weapons on his Twitter account on Monday, but stopped short of blaming either side in the Syrian conflict.

On Tuesday the new foreign minister of Iran, Mohammad Javad Zarif, stressed that Iran condemned the use of chemical weapons by any group. He also said Iran had pressed the Syrian government to assist the United Nations weapons inspectors who are in the country conducting an inquiry.

There is no evidence, he said, that chemical weapons were used by the Syrian government. But in remarks quoted by the official Islamic Republic News Agency, Mr. Zarif said there was some evidence that such munitions had been given to Syria’s insurgents.

Many analysts close to Mr. Rouhani privately say that Syria is an obstacle to change inside Iran. The country’s hard-liners say any attack on Syria is in fact an act of war against Iran, and point to a support pact in which both nations have vowed to defend each other in case of a military attack by a third country.

“Naturally Iran does not want to lose Syria as a foothold in the region,” said Davoud Hermidas-Bavand, a professor of international relations at Allameh Tabatabaei University in Tehran.

“But in the long run a solution for Syria will mean that officials in Tehran can soften their stance towards the U.S.,” he said. “It means we would have a more open domestic atmosphere.”

Iran is widely seen as having close coordination with Hezbollah, the militant Shiite Lebanese organization that is an ideological ally. Both regard Israel as a common enemy, and Hezbollah is reported to have many rockets deployed in southern Lebanon capable of striking deep into Israeli territory.

Iran and Hezbollah are heavily engaged in helping Mr. Assad’s side in the Syrian conflict. Iranian military advisers have been seen in Syria, and Iran provides military support and training to Hezbollah fighters, who have joined the Syrian armed forces in recent months to retake rebel-held areas.

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, meeting with visiting Sultan Qaboos bin Said al Said of Oman in Tehran on Monday, predicted the Syrian conflict would escalate far beyond its borders if other regional nations continued to aid the Syrian opposition.

“Their supporters must know that this fire will finally engulf them as well,” Ayatollah Khamenei said, according to the Mehr news agency
 

seth gecko

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Yes the US is justified in attacking Syria and hitting Assad with everything they've got. He's a murderer and a thug who has used chemical weapons against his own people. The only question is will they hit him hard enough, or at all? Unfortunately most of the US "allies" are backing out, while Russia and China, for their own shelfish reasons, are backing Asad to the hilt. So, hit him and hit him hard. Give him a lesson he won't forget. But will they?
Russia and China both are heavily reliant on Syria for their shrimp, lobster, clam, oyster and crab supply.
 

Celticman

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Yes the US is justified in attacking Syria and hitting Assad with everything they've got. He's a murderer and a thug who has used chemical weapons against his own people. The only question is will they hit him hard enough, or at all? Unfortunately most of the US "allies" are backing out, while Russia and China, for their own shelfish reasons, are backing Asad to the hilt. So, hit him and hit him hard. Give him a lesson he won't forget. But will they?
Russia and China both are heavily reliant on Syria for their shrimp, lobster, clam, oyster and crab supply.
You might want to check that out. I believe the Golan Heights are all fished out.
 

Smallcock

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Israel is likely to sit this one out so I don't think that is a factor at all here.
Another war fought by the US on behalf of Israel. What else is new?
 

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There is no doubt that assad is a brutal dictator ave that he needs to go. The concerns about who would replace him are well justified, though. The rebels include some very unsavory people, not just moderate Islamists like Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, but actual terrorist groups.

Hard problem.
 

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There is no doubt that assad is a brutal dictator ave that he needs to go. The concerns about who would replace him are well justified, though. The rebels include some very unsavory people, not just moderate Islamists like Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, but actual terrorist groups.

Hard problem.
Perhaps the best situation for the US is a prolonged and unresolved civil war....

OTB
 

Phil C. McNasty

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What I find mildly ironic is all the usual Lefties were riding Bushes balls for no WMD's in Iraq, and now we supposedly have Assad gassing his own people and they have no problem accepting the thin evidence thats out there.

Only evidence is a few pics of victims with stuff on their face. Could be toothpaste for all we know

 

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What I find mildly ironic is all the usual Lefties were riding Bushes balls for no WMD's in Iraq, and now we supposedly have Assad gassing his own people and they have no problem accepting the thin evidence thats out there.

Only evidence is a few pics of victims with stuff on their face. Could be toothpaste for all we know

Lefties such as whom?
 

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A planned attack on Syria by America if Assad used chemical weapons on his people was scripted long ago. Evidence of chemical weapons being used will be brought forth to justify the attack. Then in the future, the president will have to apologize to the American people for involving America in the Syrian conflict by purporting to have received incorrect information that chemical weapons were used when in fact they were not. This play was written by the same authors of Bush's weapons of mass destruction. Assad will meet the same fate as Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi. China and Russian will lose billions in the loss of their investments in Syria as they did in Iraq and Iran. The new regime will be at first anti-Iranian, and pro-America, but will gradual shift back to being under Iranian influence as Iran goes nuclear within 6 months from now. A nuclear Iran will develop a strange less hostile relationship with Israel, independent of America, and Iran will reduce their support of terrorist groups.
 

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What would be interesting to see is America does actually send boots on the ground and Assad is pushed to a corner. With no other options, Assad has no choice and unleashes his chemical and bio weapons cache. A final scorched earth tactic since he knows he is going down so might as well take his enemies with him. Imagine a quarter of American/NATO troops. Gone. Because of this America has to rethink its Asia pivot policy and pulls back its forces there. At the same moment Iran is able to build a bomb


Now then we are going to see some interesting events happening.
 

danmand

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I know what I speak of, and have the mussel to back up the talk!
Clam up and cut the crab, China has a lot of seafood, does not need to scrimp on it.
 

danmand

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Sorry for turning up the noise, as I thought you were a little hard of herring, Dutch.
My herring is as good as that of a cat.Fish are not what we are discussing. Hake cack to shellfish, please.
 

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Anything happening in the ME is a priority for the US only because it's in the interest of Israel. If it weren't for Israel, we wouldn't know nor care about what's purportedly happening in Syria.
Bullshit. US is interested in the ME when it suits US interests. For example, you have have heard of a thing called 'oil'.
 
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