Both together, you need them all for change.
Asking College Students if They Know Why They are Protesting
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Those U of T pro Hamas people aren't very friendly. Very racist indeed.
torontosun.com
WARMINGTON: Marshals wearing keffiyehs at U of T tell Jews they can't enter Little Gaza camp
There’s no spinning or downplaying it. Anti-Jewish segregation is happening on the campus of the University of Toronto.
torontosun.com
You must be talking about these people.Those U of T pro Hamas people aren't very friendly. Very racist indeed.
WARMINGTON: Marshals wearing keffiyehs at U of T tell Jews they can't enter Little Gaza camp
There’s no spinning or downplaying it. Anti-Jewish segregation is happening on the campus of the University of Toronto.
You can protest then too. Just dont go around waving the Nazi flag or join a protest started by a Nazi.
it is a binary question
you chose one or the other
A or B
protests are not the defined by democracy, nor are they unique to democracy. The Gdansk shipyard protests & Tiananmen square proved that
besides even in a democracy one is expected to be truthful and be able to follow reasonable instructions and answer simple questions
the question was
A. what is the value of an informed protestor who has objectively evaluated the pros and cons of the issue and determined his / hers opinion needs to be heard?
vs
B. what is the value of an uninformed protestor who has no clue about the issue and just wants to part of the crowd ? (or get paid $100 to shout slogans while hanging with his friends) ?
since you refused to answer the question , we can only assume you are too chicken shit to pick B, and you must recognize there is no value in B
and if there is no value in an uninformed protestor who has no clue about the issue and just wants to part of the crowd ? (or get paid $100 to shout slogans while hanging with his friends) ?
then, there is no need
in fact the net contribution to society is negative, especially if money is exchanged for the disingenuous protesting service, creating non existent public support for a cause
you could have added all your blah, blah blab after choosing an answer A or B to the binary question and possibly even qualified your answer
However the real test was "just to see if you are capable of unbiased rational thinking"
but you refused to directly answer a simple binary question with what should have been the obvious answer and thus failed the test.
you are not very bright
you will try to hand wave your failure away
too late
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There are no binary questions in a democracy. Binary questions dont exist. There are a multitude of opinions, on any topic, always. Protests are also a fundamental democratic tool.
To answer your question, the value of a protestor, remains the same whether or not they are informed. Therefore A and B, have the exact same value and how informed they are, has no bearing on their value, in a democracy.
When you go to vote, you are not questioned whether or not you know about the issues. You may or you may not. But you get one vote the same as everyone else.
When one goes to a protest, their presence counts for exactly the same as someone else whether or not their reasons align with the original reason for which the protest was called for. Whatever the reasons, they are all valid reasons for one to be there.
Now if that is not a straight answer, then what is?
Sheep have this habit of following each other while vocalizing "Baaa", because only a sheep can recognize another sheep.Baaa.....
So you're saying that gay pride events are irrelevant when the question is about gay pride events. Wow. Just wow.
Yes gay pride events are irrelevant and completely off topic when the discussion is about protests against an ongoing genocide.
Even scarier, some may become the leaders of the future.scary thing is that these young people can vote
So you're saying that Oracle is not allowed to ask a question.
The Oracle said:
How many Gay Pride events do you think there are in any Islamic country?...But they are held in Israel...Hmmm.
Who bestowed you with this authority? It's a simple question. But you say it's irrelevant because the answer is ZERO and you are afraid to admit that because it is counter to your narrative. These idiot protestors are supporting oppressive regimes that would execute them for not wearing hijabs if they had the chance.
That's the point of this whole thread, pointing out how stupid these protestors, who you incorrectly claim represent a righteous cause, really are.
Of course they can protest. But the point is that if they are uninformed, it means that their voices and opinions do not carry any weight because they are derived from ignorance.
Oracle can ask the question and can discuss it if he wishes to. I am however not discussing it and I dont need anyone's authority to make that choice. I am razor focused on the topic of the thread, which is the anti-Israel student protests against Israel's genocide in Gaza. As a good debater, it is my responsibility to bring the focus back to the topic of the thread and not derail it. You need to learn how to debate and stay on topic. As such, your post here is also off-topic.
Their voices carry exactly the same weight as the ones who are informed. That is the beauty of a democracy. No one person's voice means more than the other.
I hardly ever agree with you but in this case you perfectly summed up how his point is devoid of logic and as such is irrelevant.
It's easier to run away and dismiss his point as irrelevant than to address it and show why his point is VERY relevant.
So then you should accept and live with the Americans supporting Israel, even if, in your opinion, the choice is flawed.
I'm not holding my breath waiting for you to admit your hypocrisy.
This is again an off topic post. Stay on topic. I am not here to validate someone else's irrelevant points about gay rights in a thread about student protests against Israel's genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza.
I am no one to accept or not accept anything regarding American political realities as I am not an American citizen and have no influence over their policies. American CITIZENS OTOH are choosing to protest their govt. and their institutions and are demanding changes. That is their right. Similarly, we protest our govt. and our institutions and demand changes, which is our right.
This is an astonishingly ignorant statement.
You are claiming that in the US, during a democratic election, will you vote for Biden or trump, is NOT a binary question?
