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abstinent said:
their racism is more of a defense mechanism IMO, if everybody didnt make fun of them first. like the nerd vs the cool kids.

a bmw doesnt help, cause its like a civic. theyre everywhere. you need an R8 or something, exotics, etc, something that stands out. but even then, your car is pretty much just an ice breaker...

i think most who want to develop a relationship with whites are the canadian born ones anyways, but they still generally have extreme difficulty. FOBS couldnt careless, and usually well off from overseas.
Dude, when I was talking about racism, it's not talking about teasing. As mentioned above, asians have a serious prejudice against other races, blacks and indians get it the most. I told someone at work that I was going to Caribana and he was like 'why the hell do you want to go there?' The blacks know this too because when I go to a strip bar, it is quite rare for a black dancer asking me for a dance. I usually have to approach them. Also, I was always part of the cool kids.

Asians don't drive exotics. When a Ferrari or Lamb goes by, how many times do you see an asian driving it? Zero. The BMW or Mercedes is the preferred status symbol, even though those are used as taxi cabs elsewhere. Also, R8 is not exotic. It looks nice, but it is in the same class as an NSX.

Yes canadian born are most likely to want white. You see, being a CBC is like being caught in the middle. You look asian but you have the mentality of a caucasian. So, what do you do? Either find another Canadian born asian or caucasian because you have zero in common with Asian FOBs.

Finally, about the extreme difficulty...other asians do not make the task easier. Picture this, white girl walks down the street, asian FOB horks and spits everywhere. What goes on in the mind of the white girl...Asians=Horks and spits= EEEwwww. Also, the stuff that asians eat is also a turn off. Who the hell invented eating chicken feet? Guys, there are still hairs sticking out of them. Asians eating dogs is NOT a myth. And that is only the mild part. You have to admit asian eat and do some really funky shit. Also, ever walk through Chinatown? It stinks! That is another strike and all of these strikes combined make asians look like low class smucks even though they are well off financially. Money does not buy class.
 

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kona said:
Asians don't drive exotics. When a Ferrari or Lamb goes by, how many times do you see an asian driving it? Zero.
actually I've seen my fair share of asians in ferraris and lambos. I just depends where you go; You wont see it in Yorkville but if you go north of steeles you'll see it.

I remember a few months ago I saw an Asian guy in a Ferarri 599...brand new line of car, and not that easy to get ( not like a 430); dude wasted no time getting that ride
 

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Mongrel4u said:
actually I've seen my fair share of asians in ferraris and lambos. I just depends where you go; You wont see it in Yorkville but if you go north of steeles you'll see it.

I remember a few months ago I saw an Asian guy in a Ferarri 599...brand new line of car, and not that easy to get ( not like a 430); dude wasted no time getting that ride
Sorry, never seen asians in exotics. Then again, I don't make it up that far. I'm a downtown guy. My nose starts to bleed past steeles.
 

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Dude, when I was talking about racism, it's not talking about teasing. As mentioned above, asians have a serious prejudice against other races, blacks and indians get it the most. I told someone at work that I was going to Caribana and he was like 'why the hell do you want to go there?' The blacks know this too because when I go to a strip bar, it is quite rare for a black dancer asking me for a dance. I usually have to approach them. Also, I was always part of the cool kids.

Asians don't drive exotics. When a Ferrari or Lamb goes by, how many times do you see an asian driving it? Zero. The BMW or Mercedes is the preferred status symbol, even though those are used as taxi cabs elsewhere. Also, R8 is not exotic. It looks nice, but it is in the same class as an NSX.

Yes canadian born are most likely to want white. You see, being a CBC is like being caught in the middle. You look asian but you have the mentality of a caucasian. So, what do you do? Either find another Canadian born asian or caucasian because you have zero in common with Asian FOBs.

Finally, about the extreme difficulty...other asians do not make the task easier. Picture this, white girl walks down the street, asian FOB horks and spits everywhere. What goes on in the mind of the white girl...Asians=Horks and spits= EEEwwww. Also, the stuff that asians eat is also a turn off. Who the hell invented eating chicken feet? Guys, there are still hairs sticking out of them. Asians eating dogs is NOT a myth. And that is only the mild part. You have to admit asian eat and do some really funky shit. Also, ever walk through Chinatown? It stinks! That is another strike and all of these strikes combined make asians look like low class smucks even though they are well off financially. Money does not buy class.
I just drove home down Yonge street and I saw all of that shit - except it was blacks.

At least with Asians, there doesn't have to be 500 cops (read my tax dollars) patrolling overtime.

I'll take the Azns.
 

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Serpent said:
I just drove home down Yonge street and I saw all of that shit - except it was blacks.

At least with Asians, there doesn't have to be 500 cops (read my tax dollars) patrolling overtime.

I'll take the Azns.
So how many cops do you think is needed for the Pride parade? or the Santa Clause Parade? ...one?...no maybe two

Anytime there are large groups of people there are cops needed to keep things safe... thats their job so dont bitch about your "tax dollars" :rolleyes:

I'd say its being well spent.
 
Mongrel4u said:
LMAO... You're kidding me right? I highly highly HIGHLY doubt that.

Not saying that they dont get it either (everybody gets their share), but to say they face more racism than blacks is laughable
well we certainly see much more black criminal activity on the news/media/internet/stats/in real life/ making them seem always targeted. which makes blacks feel everyone is racist towards them.

theyre only getting all this negative attention is cause all these years they seem to decline more than improve. the few that even want to improve have their own people at times call them whitey/oreo(Judge Joe brown went from jail to Yale pretty much, and few of his own people would say hes a sell out,) as if its a black persons trademark to not improve and move forward. just dont give them(society) a reason to target you.

even bill cobsy pretty much is dissaspointed.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm

i think asians have it worse in terms of racism, due to blacks being more westernized and having that advantage, but yet rather decline than improve.(which makes them look like they face more racism, when you really messed yourself up)

one might respect an asians hard work, dont see us as much of a threat, but whites can relate to blacks hispanics etc more generally, cause asians are the least westernized.
 
Mongrel4u said:
LOL.. I highly doubt this as well. You're on a roll dude.

Defence from what?? 6th grade playground name calling? Give me a break...whos out to get them?? The white man loves them and everyone else generally dont have much of an opinion. They are the most racist towards blacks and indians and last time I checked these two groups havent done anything to "asians"...they arent even the ones that are most likely to "tease" asians because they are getting their fair share from the white kids (If I remember my childhood correctly); so I dont know where you get this from.
whites love asians like harold and kumar, maybe academically, relate career wise, need to use you for your work/assistance. but when it comes to party time, and actually truly being friends hanging out, they know were not exactly spring break, or life of the party hedonism...
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
Are we talking about Asians or Orientals
Yeah I wanted to make sure we dont get confused about this one as well....

I gotta run to work at my "dead end" job as some here say but I will jump back in soon
 
Don said:
Didn't Ice Cube release an album where he was talking about beating up Asian people?
yes. and anyone remember tsunami? wasnt that big of news, but some radio station hot97 made a parody of one of MJs songs to try and belittle us even more

http://goldsea.com/PAC/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=311

dont forget Sharon Stone, thinking chinamans earthquake is karma, but then pretends to care by apologizing, incase it hurts her career... losing fans/sales/publicity, etc, estimated 70,000 have died more or less.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/2039955/Sharon-Stone-blames-China's-earthquake-on-karma.html

if she really sincerely meant it, she can make it up, by screwing an asian like she did douglas, in her next movie, basic instinct 3 :)
 
kona said:
Dude, when I was talking about racism, it's not talking about teasing. As mentioned above, asians have a serious prejudice against other races, blacks and indians get it the most. I told someone at work that I was going to Caribana and he was like 'why the hell do you want to go there?' The blacks know this too because when I go to a strip bar, it is quite rare for a black dancer asking me for a dance. I usually have to approach them. Also, I was always part of the cool kids.

Asians don't drive exotics. When a Ferrari or Lamb goes by, how many times do you see an asian driving it? Zero. The BMW or Mercedes is the preferred status symbol, even though those are used as taxi cabs elsewhere. Also, R8 is not exotic. It looks nice, but it is in the same class as an NSX.

Yes canadian born are most likely to want white. You see, being a CBC is like being caught in the middle. You look asian but you have the mentality of a caucasian. So, what do you do? Either find another Canadian born asian or caucasian because you have zero in common with Asian FOBs.

Finally, about the extreme difficulty...other asians do not make the task easier. Picture this, white girl walks down the street, asian FOB horks and spits everywhere. What goes on in the mind of the white girl...Asians=Horks and spits= EEEwwww. Also, the stuff that asians eat is also a turn off. Who the hell invented eating chicken feet? Guys, there are still hairs sticking out of them. Asians eating dogs is NOT a myth. And that is only the mild part. You have to admit asian eat and do some really funky shit. Also, ever walk through Chinatown? It stinks! That is another strike and all of these strikes combined make asians look like low class smucks even though they are well off financially. Money does not buy class.
im not talking about schoolyard teasing either exactly. in adulthood, it occurs quite frequently as well. you can tell, even though its half assumed, peoples eye contact like youre beneath them, or theyre better than you. they dont want to be near you, or basically any affliation with you generally. just a simple observation you see how whites/blacks think of asians sometimes. espeically in clubs... you know asians are the least desired, unless it fully yellow fever night. =)

well with blacks reputation, some of those old school asians cant help but discriminate. if anything, their racism is more introverted, cautious, feeling insecure/scared and even theartened... indians, not too sure, many asians i know see indians quite smart in math/science just like them, but then theres the fob smelly dirty ones they detest... basically dislike and dismissing darker people generally perhaps.

asians also drive porsches. but rarely exotics..... youre right, cept near richmond hill hwy7, ive seen a few. benz bimmers, i guess old school HK boring minds lack creativity to show off our wealth? =) throw in an aston martin, maserti, panoz, lotus or someting, cmon.....

half those cbc girls wander off with white guys as well. although i know few cbcs sometimes slowly convert back to fob with bbtea, than karaoke, korean bbq. then theres some that stay a true banana, mahphugga.

those "lou tou" oldschool asians do make the rest look quite bad with their traditional ways. but overall we definately improve than decline. chinas economy etc.... yeah, passed by spadina, chinatown during GARBAGE strike awhile back...... :/ well thats the trade off for being cheap and cutting corners =)

lets put some racism to the test, say if you were to attend caribana in a 08 beijing olympics shirt and see if theyll start shit & confront ya. lol

(back when pacific mall was more introverted)
if blacks were to do something similiar and entered pacific mall wearing tupac or something, most introverted asians would just either avoid eye contact, or give the wtf expression and go on their way. ive never seen an asian dude try and threaten/punk a black guy. but ive seen.... or even borderline being harrased for bus tickets back in high school.

cant wait to see how next yrs all black school will do as well
since the 40% dropout rate is everyone elses fault, but asians still do fine.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/298714
 

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abstinent said:
lets put some racism to the test, say if you were to attend caribana in a 08 beijing olympics shirt and see if theyll start shit & confront ya. lol
I seriously doubt that. Maybe there are a few boneheads that will cause shit with anyone but the vast majority would not have any issues

abstinent said:
(back when pacific mall was more introverted)
if blacks were to do something similiar and entered pacific mall wearing tupac or something, most introverted asians would just either avoid eye contact, or give the wtf expression and go on their way. ive never seen an asian dude try and threaten/punk a black guy. but ive seen.... or even borderline being harrased for bus tickets back in high school.

cant wait to see how next yrs all black school will do as well
since the 40% dropout rate is everyone elses fault, but asians still do fine.
If asians think so little of blacks and feel blacks think little of them, then why so I see so many wanna-be asian gang-bangers who try to talk like they came from the "hood"?
 

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abstinent said:
im not talking about schoolyard teasing either exactly. in adulthood, it occurs quite frequently as well. you can tell, even though its half assumed, peoples eye contact like youre beneath them, or theyre better than you. they dont want to be near you, or basically any affliation with you generally.

those "lou tou" oldschool asians do make the rest look quite bad with their traditional ways. but overall we definately improve than decline. chinas economy etc.... yeah, passed by spadina, chinatown during GARBAGE strike awhile back...... :/ well thats the trade off for being cheap and cutting corners =)
I have to say, I have faced more racism from fellow asians then I have through whites or blacks. I cannot count the number of times that I have been called Juk Sing or banana and have their noses stuck up at me. Total rejection, like I am not truly asian. True, I cannot read or really speak the language, but still...The Chinese are also racist against other asians (orientals) too. It seems like the Chinese HATE the Veitnamese.

I don't think we are improving, China's quest to improve their economy is hurting us. News articles about putting cardboard into dumplings cannot be good. And what about the news stories about lead paint in kids toys. Not good. Shit like that cannot go on without people seeing asians as shady and money hungry. Hate comes into play when kids get hurt. I'm asian and I don't buy anything made in China if I can help it. When I was small, I used to love those dried prunes, and then my dad told me that back in China, they used to dry them outside and dogs would piss on them. I haven't had them ever since. I have never been to China or Hong Kong, nor do I ever want to go. I will even boycott the Olympics because of the human rights issue.

I also think China is getting really cocky. Comments like 'don't bite the hand that feeds you' said to the US makes the Chinese look like pompous assholes. I know this goes beyond the hooking up discussion, but I do feel strongly about China's practices.
 
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kona

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Serpent said:
I just drove home down Yonge street and I saw all of that shit - except it was blacks.

At least with Asians, there doesn't have to be 500 cops (read my tax dollars) patrolling overtime.

I'll take the Azns.
Dude, you saw blacks eating chicken feet? Are we talking the same Yonge street, cuz I was there for hours checking out the ladies and I did not see that.
 
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kona said:
Dude, you saw blacks eating chicken feet? Are we talking the same Yonge street, cuz I was there for hours checking out the ladies and I did not see that.
No but i did see the horking you were talking of and the ghetto fab invasion of downtown...
 

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kona said:
I have to say, I have faced more racism from fellow asians then I have through whites or blacks. I cannot count the number of times that I have been called Juk Sing or banana and have their noses stuck up at me. Total rejection, like I am not truly asian. True, I cannot read or really speak the language, but still...The Chinese are also racist against other asians (orientals) too. It seems like the Chinese HATE the Veitnamese.
Buddy, you are Asian, whether you are born here or not. So please be proud of who you are. As well, Juk Sing is not meant to be a derogatory term. I have been in with the Hong Kong crowd and I have never ever heard anyone use Juk Sing in a derogatory way. Conversely, they really admire Juk Sing, because they speak perfect English, good at sports, and they are cool.

As for Chinese hate Vietnamese, I don't know why. Not all of them are like that, but then I do know there is a history between the Vietnamese and Chinese back in the cold war days. A lot of Chinese have died and I believe it could have been a reason.

As for dried prune or anything dried, there could be an element of contamination. I stopped having those dried foods a long time ago, it doesn't matter if it is dried prune or sun dried tomato. I don't care where it is from, because I know if you put it out to dry, the flies (the ones that fly around dog poop) are bound to get it.

I think China needs a lot of improvements. Surprisingly, the issue is really not human right, since people are already and to some extent, living freely. Also, one example I can think of is Dalai Lama. He is allowed to go meet leaders of the world without intervention from the government. If China is a country with human right issue, I don't think the Chinese government would have allowed Dalai Lama to do all these visits. The real issue is that China is too capitalistic and that their legal system have not been established yet to protect people and their properties.

Thousand
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danjay,
Asians are definitely NOT the worst off. I've met so many chicks with Asian fetishes, black fetishes, brown fetishes (fetish is not really the right word, but you know what I mean). Just like a black man in these situations, all you gotta do is 'be asian' and let them come to you. My point is there is a market for every colour in the rainbow.

AND....

No matter what you or I think, no matter what you say or what women say, women respond to 2 things: CONFIDENCE AND MONEY. You can bring up the chicken or the egg question now and talk until the cows come home. Money is much easier to MANUFACTURE and that WILL increase your confidence and the figurative size of your balls and the women WILL be able to tell. Now I'm not saying an army of the hottest women are gonna be chasing your shit all over town like the Axe commercials, but in general women can smell success and will gravitate towards you.

I have dated many women, and moreover have many female friends and despite whatever lame characteristics they say they seek in a mate (sense of humour, compassion, sensitivity) - it's ALL bullshit. At a basic, primal, undeniable level, all women want a guy that is successful and can provide at some point. No one wants a wuss. The exceptions are those women that want to dominate a man, or treehuggers not interested in material gains, or those just looking for a hunky piece of meat for a one nighter. Otherwise, women are looking for security.


If you can provide that feeling, whether real or not, you can get away with a lot of shit (asshole theory, right?)..... and all of this, REGARDLESS of what you look like or the colour of your skin.

So please stop feeling sorry for yourself - it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with attitude. Stand up, be proud, make some money and walk like you got a pair of brass balls between your legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI

D.
 

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abstinent said:
im not talking about schoolyard teasing either exactly. in adulthood, it occurs quite frequently as well. you can tell, even though its half assumed, peoples eye contact like youre beneath them, or theyre better than you. they dont want to be near you, or basically any affliation with you generally. just a simple observation you see how whites/blacks think of asians sometimes. espeically in clubs... you know asians are the least desired, unless it fully yellow fever night. =)
LOL...like black people dont put up with that shit :rolleyes: ....you have no clue...no we just get it from every race conceivable on the planet...except for perhaps first nations. Abstinent, I dont care what you say, anything asians have to put up with, black people REALLY have to put up with.

Last week I stopped off at Tim Hortons because I had time between clients. So I got my coffee and a donut ( bad yes I know) and kept to my self, eating and drinking while reading and keeping up to date with "industry stuff"...and this old asian couple kept looking at me like as if they are waiting for me to rob the joint...yeah, dressed in a suit with my crackberry on my hip...some stick up kid I am. This happens ALL THE TIME

ive never seen an asian dude try and threaten/punk a black guy. but ive seen.... or even borderline being harrased for bus tickets back in high school.
Yeah well I have... They are like hyenas...they attack out numbered guys in large group...
 

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Thousand said:
Buddy, you are Asian, whether you are born here or not. So please be proud of who you are.

I think China needs a lot of improvements. Surprisingly, the issue is really not human right, since people are already and to some extent, living freely. Also, one example I can think of is Dalai Lama. He is allowed to go meet leaders of the world without intervention from the government. If China is a country with human right issue, I don't think the Chinese government would have allowed Dalai Lama to do all these visits. The real issue is that China is too capitalistic and that their legal system have not been established yet to protect people and their properties.
I am very proud of who I am and what I have done in my life so far. I do not, however, condone the actions of the people in the 'Motherland'.

About China. Let me tell you a little story. When my mom was a school girl in grade 1, she was forced to take a little governement sanctioned field trip to witness an execution. Then all of the kids were told that if they did not follow orders and get out of line, that was their fate also. WTF is that? The people of China are still not free. They have 'freedom' if you dance when they say 'dance'. If they don't and say the wrong shit they're dead.

About the Dalai Lama. Did China not strongly suggest that Harper and Bush not meet with him and that future repercussions will occur if these 'suggestions' were not followed? Also, what about beating and killing those monks? And a little further back...tiananmen sqare? I am not the only one feeling what I feel. Did you see all of the problems they had with the olympic torch run and all of the the protests?

And I LOVE the way that China controls what their people are exposed to. Total censorship. They did not hear of the torch problems. They did not hear of the troubles with the monks. They even try to control what gets out of the country. Say you want to do a documentry in China, you have to have a couple of officials tagging along so that the people that you speak to fall in line. If that is 'freedom', I don't want it.
 

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Hey fellers. Let's forget about who is on top and who is at the bottom.
Let's all get along and enjoy life. Life is too short. Just go smell the flowers.

CP
 
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