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IMHO, holding 60% cash in a portfolio is way too much!! At least with dividend etfs like XDV, XDIV, etc etc you get a monthly distribution. 'You're getting paid to wait,"

Also at a typical cdn discount brokerage the best rate you can get on a investment savings acct is only 2.30%. The best 1 yr GIC you can get is only 3.30%, with no liquidity whatsover!!

Also if your holding 60% cash, when do you get back into the market?? IMHO, there's no such thing as timing the market!!
You use the cash to buy the dips like today.
 

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Investments have levels of risk...you have loads of $$$ you can sit on...put it on a term deposit.. I do 2 year and 5 year...you just have to know you can't touch those until it's due...easy money...again...i'm talking about 5 to 6 digits funds you have no problem not seeing in a few years.
Yes, but you have no liquidity whatsoever!! Also, the rates for term deposits are very low!!
 

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You use the cash to buy the dips like today.
I don't believe in that philosophy. I just hold on to the positions I already own, knowing that these positions will go up and down. All the positions I currently own, I'm willing to hold on to for at least 10 yrs. I'm an ETF investor, so if an emergency happens, and I need extra money, and I can sell all of my ETFS in 1 day, if needed. With ETFS, you have no liquidity problems whatsoever, unlike 1 yr or 3yr GICS etc
 
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When Biden took office, he halted the XL pipeline project. In contrast, Trump supports the oil industry and plans to expand drilling, which would increase the demand for pipeline transportation. Additionally, Canada is moving forward with new pipeline projects to facilitate the export of its oil to European and Asian markets. As a result, the outlook for pipelines and pipeline support companies appears strong.

You're just speculating. You have just as much chance of being wrong, as being right!!
 

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You sound like Trump. You think you are smart because you know a little.


The big boys IE insurace companies, mutual funds, pensions - have already thought of everything you have said, and a lot more, and risk is already built into stock prices

What the common investor has to think about is how much risk they can stomach and not panick sell and that is all they should think about as that is all they are capable of understanding

I know I am the OP who asked the question but ,upon reflection, my conclusion is safe places to put your $ has not changed with Duck Donald in power, what has changed is ones ability to accept stock investing risk with Duck Donald in power


I agree with going more into the money market where you are safe because I would be constantly worried about losing a lot of money with Duck Donald and it is not worth it as I wanna sleep at night, but that is a personal decision
You're 100% correct. It's a personal decision, about how much risk you're willing to take!! Only the individual investor, can make that decision!!
 
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If you buy stocks like CTC.A, AC, CP, CNP, ENB, or TRP without understanding the market, you're speculating. A sophisticated investor, however, makes calculated decisions based on probabilities and analysis. Investing in BRK.A or BRK.B, even as a beginner, gives you the advantage of an expert team managing your money and leveraging market opportunities on your behalf.
Yes, but Brk.B or BRK.A are already so highly priced. What about the financial expression, "buy low and sell high.'??

IMHO, if you buy stocks like CTC.A , ENB etc, that are inside of an ETF, then you're not speculating. That's why I personally never buy individual stocks only ETFS!!
 

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You sound like Trump. You think you are smart because you know a little.
You are the one who resembles Trump, constantly spreading misinformation and expecting others to accept your claims as truth without providing any evidence. My opinion is entirely valid and rooted in common sense.
We are discussing a specific significant event in which Trump may impose a range of tariffs on multiple nations. Such a move could trigger uncertainty and instability in the global economy, potentially leading to market disruptions and investor panic. Given these circumstances, I believe it is wise to keep your savings in liquid assets at this time to maintain flexibility in response to any sudden economic shifts.
Exercising patience by waiting a month or two after the implementation of these tariffs before making major financial decisions is a prudent strategy. This approach allows time to assess the actual impact of the tariffs on global markets, reducing the risk of making premature or reactionary investment moves.

Yes, but Brk.B or BRK.A are already so highly priced. What about the financial expression, "buy low and sell high.'??

Investing in Berkshire Hathaway (BRK) is a far superior choice compared to buying a single blue-chip stock. With built-in diversification, BRK protects investors from the risks of relying on a single company, as it owns a vast portfolio spanning insurance, railroads, utilities, consumer goods, and financials. Unlike a single stock that is at the mercy of one management team, BRK is led by Warren Buffett and his world-class capital allocators, ensuring smart investment decisions and long-term stability.
BRK’s stable cash flow from multiple sources shields investors from volatility, while its strategy of reinvesting profits rather than paying taxable dividends maximizes long-term compounding. A single blue-chip stock, no matter how strong, is vulnerable to company-specific risks like lawsuits, poor leadership, or declining market share. Meanwhile, BRK retains the flexibility to invest in the best opportunities, adapt to changing economic conditions, and repurchase shares to drive shareholder value.
If you are seeking long-term growth, reduced risk, and expert financial management, BRK is the clear winner. Betting on a single stock is a gamble, owning Berkshire is a strategy for lasting success.


Investors should dismiss the notion that Berkshire Hathaway can ever be "too high" in price. Unlike a single stock that may become overvalued due to speculation or unsustainable growth, BRK's value is backed by a diversified portfolio of strong businesses and strategic investments, carefully managed by experienced experts with a proven track record. With its ability to adapt, allocate capital wisely, and continuously grow intrinsic value, BRK remains a sound investment at any price.

You're just speculating. You have just as much chance of being wrong, as being right!!
How have I speculated, these are the facts :
- Biden revoked the Keystone XL pipeline permit on his first day in office (January 20, 2021), effectively stopping the project.
- Trump was a strong advocate for U.S. oil and gas production, promoting policies that expanded drilling and pipeline infrastructure.

- Canada has been developing new pipeline infrastructure, notably the Trans Mountain Expansion Project (TMX), which increases capacity to the Pacific Coast for exports to Asia. However, direct exports to Europe are more challenging due to a lack of pipeline connections leading to the East Coast.
 
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You are the one who resembles Trump, constantly spreading misinformation and expecting others to accept your claims as truth without providing any evidence. My opinion is entirely valid and rooted in common sense.
We are discussing a specific significant event in which Trump may impose a range of tariffs on multiple nations. Such a move could trigger uncertainty and instability in the global economy, potentially leading to market disruptions and investor panic. Given these circumstances, I believe it is wise to keep your savings in liquid assets at this time to maintain flexibility in response to any sudden economic shifts.
Exercising patience by waiting a month or two after the implementation of these tariffs before making major financial decisions is a prudent strategy. This approach allows time to assess the actual impact of the tariffs on global markets, reducing the risk of making premature or reactionary investment moves.




Investing in Berkshire Hathaway (BRK) is a far superior choice compared to buying a single blue-chip stock. With built-in diversification, BRK protects investors from the risks of relying on a single company, as it owns a vast portfolio spanning insurance, railroads, utilities, consumer goods, and financials. Unlike a single stock that is at the mercy of one management team, BRK is led by Warren Buffett and his world-class capital allocators, ensuring smart investment decisions and long-term stability.

BRK’s stable cash flow from multiple sources shields investors from volatility, while its strategy of reinvesting profits rather than paying taxable dividends maximizes long-term compounding. A single blue-chip stock, no matter how strong, is vulnerable to company-specific risks like lawsuits, poor leadership, or declining market share. Meanwhile, BRK retains the flexibility to invest in the best opportunities, adapt to changing economic conditions, and repurchase shares to drive shareholder value.
If you are seeking long-term growth, reduced risk, and expert financial management, BRK is the clear winner. Betting on a single stock is a gamble, owning Berkshire is a strategy for lasting success.


Investors should dismiss the notion that Berkshire Hathaway can ever be "too high" in price. Unlike a single stock that may become overvalued due to speculation or unsustainable growth, BRK's value is backed by a diversified portfolio of strong businesses and strategic investments, carefully managed by experienced experts with a proven track record. With its ability to adapt, allocate capital wisely, and continuously grow intrinsic value, BRK remains a sound investment at any price.
You are market timing. Cannot be done. You will miss the upticks as you get back in too late

Warren Buffet. I take my advice from him, that is my evidence. While he may be wrong, it is the best advice I can think of
and he very firmly says the average stock holder should buy and hold index fund in S&P not BRK, which he owns as you know.
BRK is really an index fund of buffet shosen stocks which buys and holds.

Compare BRK graph to the S&P. Let me know what you see. He knows all the stock "geniuses" and he says he can count the ones who can consistently beat the market on one hand

I am confused if the graphs account for taxes BRK pays and who is actually ahead but here is Buffet


Tell me what you think. He seems to say BRK is better in a downturn but not in upturn, do you agree? His talk about taxes paid by BRK and a S&P index fund and how it influences profit I am unsure of so explain it to me


Google warren buffet, charlie munger, jack boogle or ben felix on market timing then we can talk without insulting each other,
if you can prove me wrong I will salute you .

I am not an expert, and I believe you are smart enough to say the same about yourself.

Duck Donald is a meglomaniac who thinks he is the smartest guy in the biggest room.

Trump is an outlier, I never expected someone like him to be in power, so I am nervous and I want to sleep at night.
Getting out of the market may prove wise but, if it works I got lucky.

No way did I outsmart everybody

Warren Buffet’s BRK-B Vs S&P 500 Analysis - Alpha Rho Technologies

Historical analysis suggests that a rational investor should not choose between the S&P 500 and Berkshire Hathaway, but instead consider holding both in their portfolio. However, historical performance does not guarantee future outcomes. Investors must assess whether the fundamentals that have driven the success of these assets in the past are likely to persist going forward.

We believe that BRK-B carries a premium due to Warren Buffett’s unparalleled reputation and investment acumen. However, at 93 years old, Buffett’s eventual succession poses a significant uncertainty. It is unlikely that his successors will match his extraordinary track record, which could impact the company’s performance and investor sentiment over the long term.
 
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Whats a good Gold ETF you guys are holding ?
Franco Nevada is kind of like a gold ETF(lower risk royalty play also). I have been holding it for many years. Unfortunately, I did not buy enough of it and probably would not buy more with gold at these levels.
 
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You are the one who resembles Trump, constantly spreading misinformation and expecting others to accept your claims as truth without providing any evidence. My opinion is entirely valid and rooted in common sense.
We are discussing a specific significant event in which Trump may impose a range of tariffs on multiple nations. Such a move could trigger uncertainty and instability in the global economy, potentially leading to market disruptions and investor panic. Given these circumstances, I believe it is wise to keep your savings in liquid assets at this time to maintain flexibility in response to any sudden economic shifts.
Exercising patience by waiting a month or two after the implementation of these tariffs before making major financial decisions is a prudent strategy. This approach allows time to assess the actual impact of the tariffs on global markets, reducing the risk of making premature or reactionary investment moves.




Investing in Berkshire Hathaway (BRK) is a far superior choice compared to buying a single blue-chip stock. With built-in diversification, BRK protects investors from the risks of relying on a single company, as it owns a vast portfolio spanning insurance, railroads, utilities, consumer goods, and financials. Unlike a single stock that is at the mercy of one management team, BRK is led by Warren Buffett and his world-class capital allocators, ensuring smart investment decisions and long-term stability.

BRK’s stable cash flow from multiple sources shields investors from volatility, while its strategy of reinvesting profits rather than paying taxable dividends maximizes long-term compounding. A single blue-chip stock, no matter how strong, is vulnerable to company-specific risks like lawsuits, poor leadership, or declining market share. Meanwhile, BRK retains the flexibility to invest in the best opportunities, adapt to changing economic conditions, and repurchase shares to drive shareholder value.
If you are seeking long-term growth, reduced risk, and expert financial management, BRK is the clear winner. Betting on a single stock is a gamble, owning Berkshire is a strategy for lasting success.


Investors should dismiss the notion that Berkshire Hathaway can ever be "too high" in price. Unlike a single stock that may become overvalued due to speculation or unsustainable growth, BRK's value is backed by a diversified portfolio of strong businesses and strategic investments, carefully managed by experienced experts with a proven track record. With its ability to adapt, allocate capital wisely, and continuously grow intrinsic value, BRK remains a sound investment at any price.



How have I speculated, these are the facts :

- Biden revoked the Keystone XL pipeline permit on his first day in office (January 20, 2021), effectively stopping the project.
- Trump was a strong advocate for U.S. oil and gas production, promoting policies that expanded drilling and pipeline infrastructure.

- Canada has been developing new pipeline infrastructure, notably the Trans Mountain Expansion Project (TMX), which increases capacity to the Pacific Coast for exports to Asia. However, direct exports to Europe are more challenging due to a lack of pipeline connections leading to the East Coast.

Sorry, we'll just have to agree to disagree!! What about buying CDN bank or utility ETFS, that are not high priced right now, and pay a decent yield. IMHO, BRK is too high in price, and you also have to buy it in US dollars, which is another problem, due to the low CDN dollar!!

There will always be market issues. Now, it's the Trump's tariffs, in 2020 it was covid, and don't forget about the 2008 financial crisis. The market always bounced back, from these "Black Swan" events. For investors who panicked and sold at market lows, they wound up losing a lot of money, when the stock market bounced back, which it always does.

Then for the investors who went "all cash" to ease potential furthur losses, they felt embarrassed because when the market corrected, they never got back into the market, because the stock market prices shot up. As a result, these investors who "panicked", and sold at the worst time (when the market was at it's lowest), are now permanent GIC and cash investors. As usual, just my opinion!!
 
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You are market timing. Cannot be done. You will miss the upticks as you get back in too late

Warren Buffet. I take my advice from him, that is my evidence. While he may be wrong, it is the best advice I can think of
and he very firmly says the average stock holder should buy and hold. He knows all the stock "geniuses"
and he says he can count the ones who can consistently beat the market on one hand


Google warren buffet, charlie munger, jack boogle or ben felix on market timing then we can talk without insulting each other,
if you can prove me wrong I will salute you .

I am not an expert, and I believe you are smart enough to say the same abouit yourself.

Duck Donald is a meglomaniac who thinks he is the smartest guy in the biggest room.

Trump is an outlier, I never expected someone like him to be in power, so I am nervous and I want to sleep at night.
Getting out of the market may prove wise but, if it works I got lucky.

No way did I outsmart everybody
With market timing you have to make two correct decisions. 1. when to get out of the market, and 2. When to get back in. That is an impossible thing to do. Very few investors can pick the market bottom, or the market top!!

That's why as Warren Buffett preaches, buying and holding is the best strategy!!
 

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You are market timing. Cannot be done. You will miss the upticks as you get back in too late
I say it can be done and it is done by people in the know all the time.

With market timing you have to make two correct decisions. 1. when to get out of the market, and 2. When to get back in. That is an impossible thing to do.

Market timing can be defined as the strategy of selecting stocks, buying them at an opportune moment, and selling them for a profit. The stock’s movement after the sale is irrelevant—the primary goal is to generate consistent profits. Success in market timing comes from making more profitable trades than losing ones, ultimately ensuring overall gains rather than losses.
Now, consider a scenario where you achieve a 2.5% return per week and compound those gains over a year. If sustained, this rate of return would result in tripling your initial investment within 12 months. The question is: Is this realistically achievable?
 

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With market timing you have to make two correct decisions. 1. when to get out of the market, and 2. When to get back in. That is an impossible thing to do. Very few investors can pick the market bottom, or the market top!!

That's why as Warren Buffett preaches, buying and holding is the best strategy!!
Correct

Market timing is impossible because the majority of large market swings happen in less than a day and just as you jump
in or out the market goes the other way.

If it was so easy everyone would do it

Ceiling Cat has convinced himself he can outsmart the market with his logic and beat
all the pros that run the pensions funds and the insurance companies and the mutual funds

Logic does not control the market like CC believes, emotion and herd mentality rules the market


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I say it can be done and it is done by people in the know all the time.




Market timing can be defined as the strategy of selecting stocks, buying them at an opportune moment, and selling them for a profit. The stock’s movement after the sale is irrelevant—the primary goal is to generate consistent profits. Success in market timing comes from making more profitable trades than losing ones, ultimately ensuring overall gains rather than losses.
Now, consider a scenario where you achieve a 2.5% return per week and compound those gains over a year. If sustained, this rate of return would result in tripling your initial investment within 12 months. The question is: Is this realistically achievable?
Sorry, not to be rude, but I don't agree with any of your comments!! So in other words you're a "day trader " or a "swing trader", which I'm not!!

The success rate for making a living by day trading is 4%!!


 
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