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Are canadian bank stock safe from Humpty Trumpty?

superstar_88

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But the initial investment is after tax, and accumulation within the RRSP is tax free, yes until withdrawn but can time withdrawls based on need and tax effect.
Initial investment is after tax but you get a tax refund so in effect you lent out money to the government interest free. The government thanks you for that.

You pay now or pay later and you're actually paying more later if you have investment growth. It's not tax free in an RRSP
 

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I have gone 60% into cash but I hate doing that because I am a firm believer in holding in a bear
but Trump is a meglomaniac and that changes things and I do not know WTF to do

So, what stocks should I buy that is safe from Duck Donald?

Canadian banks are safe from tarrifs, at least directly, and they pay dividends
so buy Canadian banks?
Canadian banks are safe from tariffs but not to the recession that may happen if they stay in place for an extended time frame.
 
Initial investment is after tax but you get a tax refund so in effect you lent out money to the government interest free. The government thanks you for that.
You pay now or pay later and you're actually paying more later if you have investment growth. It's not tax free in an RRSP
In Canada, I assume you can adjust withholding if an employee or estimated taxes so you don't get a refund. I always pay but am careful to avoid any penalties instead of giving the government an interest-free loan.

I believe while still in an RRSP, it is tax-free, more technically tax deferred. The time value of money discounting a future tax to present value can offset the disadvantage of being fully taxable on distributions. I would rather have more money now (after tax going in) even if I have to pay tax 10-20 years later, maybe after retirement, so I may be in a lower tax bracket. I believe it is similar to an IRA or 401k in the US.
 

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I have gone 60% into cash but I hate doing that because I am a firm believer in holding in a bear
but Trump is a meglomaniac and that changes things and I do not know WTF to do

So, what stocks should I buy that is safe from Duck Donald?

Canadian banks are safe from tarrifs, at least directly, and they pay dividends
so buy Canadian banks?
Everyones afraid of big bad Trump boogeyman. He's doimg whats best for the USA long term. They dont stop to realize that our country got WAY too reliant on other countries, therefore we dont have any leverage and must now take dildo up arse.

Long story short, stay in cash and gobble up cheap stock when it crashes and then thank big bad orange man after.
 

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Everyones afraid of big bad Trump boogeyman. He's doimg whats best for the USA long term. They dont stop to realize that our country got WAY too reliant on other countries, therefore we dont have any leverage and must now take dildo up arse.

Long story short, stay in cash and gobble up cheap stock when it crashes and then thank big bad orange man after.
When bottom though?
 

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Everyones afraid of big bad Trump boogeyman. He's doimg whats best for the USA long term. They dont stop to realize that our country got WAY too reliant on other countries, therefore we dont have any leverage and must now take dildo up arse.

Long story short, stay in cash and gobble up cheap stock when it crashes and then thank big bad orange man after.
Nope.

Total Trump BS as Trump is a pathological liar. Find me an economist that defends TRUMP on Tariiffs.
USA has not been taken advantage of as all countries profit with free trade, why do a trade if you do not profit?


Just look at the clown.


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Staying in money market might keep up with inflation but last time Trump was President the stock market
did well even though the economy suffered so I want to stay in stocks but safely as possible because Trump is nuts

But what do you mean by cash?

Savings account in a bank has government insurance in case of bank failure
and government also insures GICs and anything else could collapse in a Trump induced depression
 
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In Canada, I assume you can adjust withholding if an employee or estimated taxes so you don't get a refund. I always pay but am careful to avoid any penalties instead of giving the government an interest-free loan.

I believe while still in an RRSP, it is tax-free, more technically tax deferred. The time value of money discounting a future tax to present value can offset the disadvantage of being fully taxable on distributions. I would rather have more money now (after tax going in) even if I have to pay tax 10-20 years later, maybe after retirement, so I may be in a lower tax bracket. I believe it is similar to an IRA or 401k in the US.
tax free is not the same as tax deferred. One is no tax and the other is tax later. Huge difference.
In retirement you may be in a lower tax bracket or you may not. Depending on how your investments do in your RRSP. You could in fact be in a higher tax bracket. Plus the 100% tax on capital gains rather than 50%.
 

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I made note to get into Canadian gas and oil stocks before PP becomes PM because he would be more friendly to the industry. This was back 6 months ago before Trump tariffs and when it looked certain that PP would win the next election against JT.

Carney at least on the surface seems to be more friendly to oil and gas development than JT. I think that is the reason energy stocks are doing well. With that said I think energy stocks would do even better if PP was going to become PM.
Carney is not pro Canadian energy. His action at Bank of England and his own words tell the tale. His book Values would shock most Canadians. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and his agenda is very much as a climate activist. The difference with Trudeau and Carney is that Carney is academically smart, he is more astute, while Trudeau was a better politician and easily manipulated and controlled his cabinet. The reason for the short campaign is to minimize the time that Canadians get to understand Carney, while riding a wave of Liberal support.
The Liberals know that they are being given a massive gift from Trump and intend to hold onto power, while the fear of Trumpism is at its highest in Canada.
Do not be fooled into thinking that election speaking points will mean actual pipelines to the East and West coasts, especially from the Carney led Liberals.
 
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Brk.b is the safest company to hold in times like this. Unlike Musk, Buffet actually deeply cares about his investors and has prepared for this.
 

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Brk.b is the safest company to hold in times like this. Unlike Musk, Buffet actually deeply cares about his investors and has prepared for this.
Brk.b has been up ~16% since Trump took office, the volatility of the stock looks less than that of the S&P 500. Buffet croaking is a big risk though.
 

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I have gone 60% into cash but I hate doing that because I am a firm believer in holding in a bear
but Trump is a meglomaniac and that changes things and I do not know WTF to do

So, what stocks should I buy that is safe from Duck Donald?

Canadian banks are safe from tarrifs, at least directly, and they pay dividends
so buy Canadian banks?
While Canadian banks remain secure, the broader economy is on uncertain ground. With Trump the psychopath at the helm, the global financial landscape could take a turbulent turn. This volatility may create opportunities amid the chaos, but it also carries the risk of a worldwide recession. In such uncertain times, maintaining 60% cash can serve as a prudent hedge against economic instability. Just before the April 2 tariffs, it is best wait for more stable times.
 
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Brk.b has been up ~16% since Trump took office, the volatility of the stock looks less than that of the S&P 500. Buffet croaking is a big risk though.

If you buy stocks like CTC.A, AC, CP, CNP, ENB, or TRP without understanding the market, you're speculating. A sophisticated investor, however, makes calculated decisions based on probabilities and analysis. Investing in BRK.A or BRK.B, even as a beginner, gives you the advantage of an expert team managing your money and leveraging market opportunities on your behalf.
 
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All the pipelines are doing well. My TRP went up 40% spun of SOBO then bounced right back to a new 52 week high. I bought it due to Coastal gaslink.
When Biden took office, he halted the XL pipeline project. In contrast, Trump supports the oil industry and plans to expand drilling, which would increase the demand for pipeline transportation. Additionally, Canada is moving forward with new pipeline projects to facilitate the export of its oil to European and Asian markets. As a result, the outlook for pipelines and pipeline support companies appears strong.

 

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Investments have levels of risk...you have loads of $$$ you can sit on...put it on a term deposit.. I do 2 year and 5 year...you just have to know you can't touch those until it's due...easy money...again...i'm talking about 5 to 6 digits funds you have no problem not seeing in a few years.
 

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Cash is the only way to preserve your money with a fucking idiot at the helm of the world’s largest economy.

Markets tanking due to hot inflation caused by Trump’s tariffs.
 

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When Biden took office, he halted the XL pipeline project. In contrast, Trump supports the oil industry and plans to expand drilling, which would increase the demand for pipeline transportation. Additionally, Canada is moving forward with new pipeline projects to facilitate the export of its oil to European and Asian markets. As a result, the outlook for pipelines and pipeline support companies appears strong.

I don't think thats it. People are moving money into stocks that will not likely be affected by tariffs, and pipeline transport is one of those.
 

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While Canadian banks remain secure, the broader economy is on uncertain ground. With Trump the psychopath at the helm, the global financial landscape could take a turbulent turn. This volatility may create opportunities amid the chaos, but it also carries the risk of a worldwide recession. In such uncertain times, maintaining 60% cash can serve as a prudent hedge against economic instability. Just before the April 2 tariffs, it is best wait for more stable times.

You sound like Trump. You think you are smart because you know a little.


The big boys IE insurace companies, mutual funds, pensions - have already thought of everything you have said, and a lot more, and risk is already built into stock prices

What the common investor has to think about is how much risk they can stomach and not panick sell and that is all they should think about as that is all they are capable of understanding

I know I am the OP who asked the question but ,upon reflection, my conclusion is safe places to put your $ has not changed with Duck Donald in power, what has changed is ones ability to accept stock investing risk with Duck Donald in power


I agree with going more into the money market where you are safe because I would be constantly worried about losing a lot of money with Duck Donald and it is not worth it as I wanna sleep at night, but that is a personal decision
 
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While Canadian banks remain secure, the broader economy is on uncertain ground. With Trump the psychopath at the helm, the global financial landscape could take a turbulent turn. This volatility may create opportunities amid the chaos, but it also carries the risk of a worldwide recession. In such uncertain times, maintaining 60% cash can serve as a prudent hedge against economic instability. Just before the April 2 tariffs, it is best wait for more stable times.
IMHO, holding 60% cash in a portfolio is way too much!! At least with dividend etfs like XDV, XDIV, etc etc you get a monthly distribution. 'You're getting paid to wait,"

Also at a typical cdn discount brokerage the best rate you can get on a investment savings acct is only 2.30%. The best 1 yr GIC you can get is only 3.30%, with no liquidity whatsover!!

Also if you're holding 60% cash, when do you get back into the market?? IMHO, there's no such thing as timing the market!!
 
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